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Scooters - 125 to 300 => People 250 => Topic started by: ispud on August 20, 2009, 02:48:33 PM
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Any recommendations for gear oil for 2009 ps250? The owners manual says SAE #90. What do you use?
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Any recommendations for gear oil for 2009 ps250? The owners manual says SAE #90. What do you use?
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Any. Gearbox oil ins cooter is not under heavy strain so any SAE 90 will do. Do not waste time overanalyzing...
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but...but....but....
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but...but....but....
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...but if you want to feel particulary good, buy the most expensive one, preferably synthetic or polymer based. :)
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I used Royal Purple, and I really did feel great about it :D
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Changed it this morning - it looked pretty nasty - metal looking grit in it - I used the cheap regular stuff. 10 minutes latter the UPS guy shows up with the expensive gear oil I ordered from AF1 Racing - will use it next time. Now its adjust the valve clearance project - hard for me to believe you have to do that after 300k. Now I am worried about warranty issues if I do my own work - which I would like to.
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I use Amsoil synthetic. It doesn't aeiate, so if you slightly overfill (see much earlier post -3-4 mo ago) this gear oil will not try to puke into your airbox. And it will handle heat much better, and not break down as fast. I would think the Royal Purple synthetic is also an excellent product. When it takes so little why not use something that will give you more piece of mind.
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(I posted this on the thread about using engine oil in the rear reduction drive - oops. I think it belongs here.)
An observation - 90w gear lube is pretty difficult to find in the US. I tried both a standard type Multi vis 75 / 85 and a Synthetic 75 / 90 w (Mobil 1) and kept loosing lube between changes. Performance deteriorated, I changed to Dr Pulley sliders and an Athena Kevlar belt.
Performance kept going down.
Finally I found that Lucas is selling a standard blend gear lube, multi Vis in an 80 / 140w configuration and I splurged 8.50 US for it. At first, it ran a tad on the stiff side. Then after a few hundred km, everything seemed to click, noise level went down, performance went way up and gas mileage was again approaching 68 mpg.
Happy - Satisfied.
Prior to this, I had noticed a huge build up of black greasy residue inside the transmission case - partial belt dust but really oily. I cleaned it out with brake clean and added about 1 cc of Brake fluid to the final drive, pushed the bike around for about 40 km of riding, then changed to the Lucas gear lube.
It seems the lighter weight lube, could / would / did push pass the seal on the clutch side of the drive and it started to weep into the belt / transmission case. This fouled everything and I was constanly loosing about half my gear lube at every change. The Brake fluid will expand the seals back to where they should be. I've used this trick on fork seals when I lived in the SW deserts and in Australia ... otherwise you end up replacing them two or three times a year. The trick is to only use it for a short time, the seals swell up - then drain the lube and replace it with the heavier lube.
If someone can counter this - as to why I shouldn't use this heavier lube - let me know. Please!
Dion
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Excelent post, and tip w/ the brake fluid. I have been doing the same since 1974. It can get you through three or four seal changes, Synthetic's ALWAYS perform better. They are designed to. As to the weight issue... I believe it is a NON issue