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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Downtown 300 => Topic started by: mszallen on April 24, 2014, 04:49:51 PM
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Was just in to the dealer to have my 5K service and some much needed heated grips installed. After talking with the owner I found out that Kymco have come up with a second seat for the DT!! Apparently it changes the amount of storage for the better and the ergonomics of the seating position as well. Can't wait to see and sit on it. Too cramped on the stock seat. Will be at the dealer this Friday and will post pics and dimensions. Anyone else know of this "new" seat for the DT? BTW, heated grips are the best invesment I've made to date. What a difference.
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photo please!!!!!
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Won't be cheap..... an alternative is to repad the OE seat.
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My dealer in Canada bought a dozen overseas seats from Taiwan to distiribute across Canada, so I have access to a taller seat for a much more reasonable price.
Perhaps organizing a group buy from Kymco Taiwan might be a good idea to greatly cut on shipping. The boxes are rather bulky, but perhaps having a pallet shipped over and having someone pick up can be made feasible. Alternatively, if you know anyone travelling overseas, ask them nicely to bring one back. Scooter goodies or factory parts are very cheap and abundant over in Asia.
Sometimes there may also be people living in Asia with a Downtown/Nikita 125-300 that may appreciate a shorter seat! Perhaps a swap program could be set up.
Just ideas.
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Saw the seat on Friday and was not overly impressed with the change it makes to the ergonomics of the bike. Won't upload pictures as you'd never be able to see any difference. The main change is a little more under seat storage as the underside of the seat has be modified. There's also a more prominent bump at the front that seems to lock you back in the seat and may reduce any forward slipping. Overall the seat is approximately 1/2 in longer for the rider. Not much for $300 plus.
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I spent few days searching online for this specific seat in the U.S.
Unfortunately, the lowest price I can find is almost $300, this is only about $120 if purchased in Taiwan.
I tried to ask several of my friends to bring it here, but so far no one wanted to do that...
If we can organize a group purchase, maybe we can organize that to reduce the shipping cost.
Following are some photo which I found extremely helpful to whoever wants to see the difference.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26312597/seat1.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26312597/seat2.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26312597/seat3.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26312597/seat4.jpg)
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Hi I just bught a 2014 downtown today, have found that it is equiped with the updated seat, and I hope it is better than the "old" type of seat. I have no chance to test it until august due to my workplace. I'll post picture of the new type seat.
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I spent few days searching online for this specific seat in the U.S.
Unfortunately, the lowest price I can find is almost $300, this is only about $120 if purchased in Taiwan.
I tried to ask several of my friends to bring it here, but so far no one wanted to do that...
If we can organize a group purchase, maybe we can organize that to reduce the shipping cost.
Following are some photo which I found extremely helpful to whoever wants to see the difference.
That seat looks like a nice improvement especially for my tall body.
I'd be willing to do this if we get enough interest. Thanks.
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Now that seat looks a lot better.
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Anyone know if the seats for the Xciting 500 are interchangeable? Corbin is now making one for that model that moves the seating position back for more legroom.
They are expensive but the only thing I don't like about my DT is the seating position.
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The Xciting 500 has a totally different frame and seat, so I don't think the seat can be used on the Downtown. The standard Xciting 500 seat feels rather comfortable though.
I put the tall seat on my Downtown 300i for a weekend test. My bum feels like it's an inch higher. I feel like I am less on a cruiser and more on an upright bike now. The space under the seat hump is easier to reach too, and the seat feels like it opens up wider.
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i gave up trying to find a replacement seat, so just modified mine on the dt200i. cut out a large portion of the dome underneath the seat and removed a portion of the butt stop and it worked out fine. it lowered my butt a few inches and can move back approx. 3 inches for more stretch. removed foot pad on floor and replaced with custom wood floorboards stained and clear finished with forward footpegs. only drawback is visual with loose seat covering where butt stop was removed, but i can live with that for the increased comfort and lower center of gravity achieved. works for me.
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I have managed a way to import those Genuine Kymco (European market) seat from Taiwan (Check those photos I posted above)
The final price is not confirmed yet but it should be LESS than $250 includes seat and freight from TW to Calif.
If you are interested, let me know so I can calculate the number and maybe negotiate the price :)
EDIT:
The freight for air shipment is just too expensive (which makes the total amount to almost $240 to bring in the seat to Cali) I will ask the forwarder later to get a quote if shipped by sea, will keep you guys posted.
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Is this new seat (2014) fully compatibile w/ 2011 DT seat??
I like this shape...
I there any experience? Better than the old seat??
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I have managed a way to import those Genuine Kymco (European market) seat from Taiwan (Check those photos I posted above)
The final price is not confirmed yet but it should be LESS than $250 includes seat and freight from TW to Calif.
If you are interested, let me know so I can calculate the number and maybe negotiate the price :)
EDIT:
The freight for air shipment is just too expensive (which makes the total amount to almost $240 to bring in the seat to Cali) I will ask the forwarder later to get a quote if shipped by sea, will keep you guys posted.
Thank you. I'm still interested and will look for your update.
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Still trying to get the combination of reasonable freight charge and fast delivery.
(For me, the best case is to bring it into US for less than $200)
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I also may play.
Be Big,
AMAC
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After spending noticeable time on the phone and/or by e-mail with those forwarder in Taiwan, here comes the best option I am going to bring my seat in:
(I am not looking for cheapest one available, because many things can go wrong especially on this type of int'l shipping, so I am looking for reputable carrier, forwarder to save me some trouble and reduce the risk of losing package.)
Carrier: Taiwan Post (Sea), the official post service of Taiwan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chunghwa_Post (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chunghwa_Post)
It takes approx. 45-60 days to arrive
Cost: $250 includes seat and Door-to-(your)Door freight
Let me know if any of you is interested (PM me) so I can tell my contact in Taiwan to arrange shipment.
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For those who are interested, I have uploaded photos from regional dealer in Taiwan.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d0nxzy2i99ut1or/AACbcrkU2gQtvfSWwnTtymfOa (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d0nxzy2i99ut1or/AACbcrkU2gQtvfSWwnTtymfOa)
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That looks like the stock seat. The underside looks different, but the actual seat looks the same.
Look a the photo of the seat the Uangalu posted. It's looks a lot different than the one you posted.
Curious.
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@kfc.android The seat you plan to import is maybe modified compared to the "old" one. But there is a completely new seat available that looks like it gives more room to move in the seat. I have bought a downtown 2014 second hand with the new seat. there is 5 weeks til I get to see/try my new downtown, but the main reasson for choosing the one I did was down to the better looking seat.
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I asked my contact in Taiwan and they don't have anything like this, at least not yet...
The one I planned to import was listed as genuine kymco part and was designed for Euro market, looks like they got a newer model for '14 DTs
Wondering how is the under seat compartment looks like.
Btw, the one I planned to import has different texture on the surface, slightly different shape for rider's part for better riding posture, and firmer foam for better long-distance body support, it may not look as sleek as the one posted above, but still a good option compared to the stock one.
If someone can give me part number of the 2014 seat, maybe I can ask my contact to find it since they are regional dealer in TW
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Hmm, looks like two (pics) different seats one with a butt stop and one without.
I would be interested in the one without the butt stop.
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after all this time the seat is still being discussed lol I been gone almost a 9 months .lol
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after all this time the seat is still being discussed lol I been gone almost a 9 months .lol
....show me a new seat for the DT 300 without personal mods and I will buy it lol
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Let's try to get this one. :o
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scootermax, could you post some photos, please?
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hey guys, I know its been awhile but any recent news on a new downtown seat? my dealer has a newer version but there has been talk on this forum about a new seat without the butt stop?
hopefully get a new seat on the beast before riding season.
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Took my seat off yesterday planning to bring it to an upholstery shop and get it modified. Everything about the scoot is great except that seat, hoping to get it moved back a few good inches or more plus change the angle in front so it doesnt angle forwards so much.
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hey orange crusher, let me know how it goes and pics please.. if you are from Toronto by any chance, let me know where you went. Im planning to get it modified as well
thanks
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when you have the seat done , use rebond foam 10 Lb. the guy who did mine used regular foam , and I had do it over , my self. I used 4 " foam and cut it ( slant it back 1 "so it would be more comfortable, and made it wider for my wide ass, my seat is level from front to back, so I got long legs, my feet are still flat on the ground, and the butt stop is moved back about 5 " that will go by your own size,. the rear dome for your helmet is cut out of the seat to make it flat and left open so when I close the seat, the helmet pushes up the foam a little and closes the seat, do you think the BS off of the hill in Ottawa will melt the snow, looking forward to riding again,. not the snow blower on the tractor,
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Yes I was wondering how you moved that butt stop 5 inches back without getting into that dome, so am I correct in understanding that you cut that dome out, leaving an open hole, covered it in the 10lb rebond foam 4" thick then put the vinyl cover back over it and you put a helmet under the seat to provide support for that open spot created by the removal of the dome?
BTW~ I`m in Michigan about midway up the state, so thats south of ottawa but yes I hope for a regular spring-snow-melt and be out riding again soon :)
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when I am riding the helmet is on my head, the rebond foam is good for the hole, does not sag, cant feel it even with 225 Lb. ( me ) on it
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Thanks Dee, I`ll let my seat techie know :)
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Dropped it off today with a plan to take about half the dome out and use the 10lb rebond foam to move that but stop back a good 5 inches.
He`ll call me next week so I can pick it up and try out the new foam job on the scoot before putting the cover on, make any necessary adjustments to it then we`ve designed a really cool new cover, it`ll be black and orange with boxes sewn in using black stitching.
I cant wait!
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I took out the full dome, love to see your new seat ,
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Yes post pics of it all so we can all learn and make seat adjustments too.
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Welp back in the saddle again after back surgery .lol and again i see the seat is being discussed and yes im riding again ain't no back surgery gonna keep me off my DT 300 anyways still no new seat being made yet huh lol i just live with the fact it's the design and there not going to change it im 5'11 300 sure its crampy but i still enjoy the long rides i just added more padding for my big ass :) i see a lot of talk for mods on the seat but never any pics
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Well its all done, its been done for weeks, I got pics, I`ve had pics for weeks, but cant post them here due their size >:( sad that you cant post decent size pics here :-\
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for photos I use "photobucket" one of the free picture hosting web sites. hope to see your pictures soon!!
cheers,
Don.
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Here they are :)
http://s292.photobucket.com/user/jefflapres/library/?view=recent&page=1 (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/jefflapres/library/?view=recent&page=1)
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Very nice!
Be Big,
AMAC
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beautiful job!! I want one!! (black and white)
thanks for the pictures.
cheers,
Don.
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I had also a back surgery and then i found this...It does not matter which seat. The company always does individually: http://www.motorcycleparts-hornig.com/BMW-R-1200-GS-Adv-and-HP2/Seats-Trunks-and-Bags/Change-one-piece-seat.html (http://www.motorcycleparts-hornig.com/BMW-R-1200-GS-Adv-and-HP2/Seats-Trunks-and-Bags/Change-one-piece-seat.html)
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there is an imported version of the seat that I just purchased... ask your dealer if he has any but the difference is huge!! Im not adjusting myself every five minutes anymore. its higher and the front end has more of a bump... well worth the money. im 5'8 and felt very uncomfortable, I cant image anyone taller feeling comfortable at all with the domestic seat. the seat was the only flaw in my eyes.. now its perfect... get the seat guys!!!
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Any chance you can share what dealer was able to get this imported seat? I was looking at the kymco global site, and I see there is the Downtown 350i that doesn't appear to have made it to the US. That seat seems like it has a better seat than the 300i.
http://www.kymco.com/product/category/Scooter/Downtown_350i_New/feature.asp (http://www.kymco.com/product/category/Scooter/Downtown_350i_New/feature.asp)
I just did a 500 mile trip over 2 days on the DT 300i, and after the trip I've decided something must be done about the seat. I'm to the point where I either find a better seat or I sell the bike and get something else, its that uncomfortable to me.
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I got mine at Studio Cycle 2923 Dundas St W, Toronto, ON M6P 1Z1 416-766-5300. I think they still have two more... The new 350 looks incredible by the way
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I got mine at Studio Cycle 2923 Dundas St W, Toronto, ON M6P 1Z1 416-766-5300. I think they still have two more... The new 350 looks incredible by the way
Anyway to get a part number off that bad boy ?
Be Big,
AMAC