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Scooters - Big Bore => Xciting 500 => Topic started by: winginman on October 16, 2009, 01:41:49 PM
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Riding down the road the other day I hit a bump and the speedometer quit working. Next bump it jumped back up and started working, then next bump (small) it quit again. This went on and off for a while. By the time I got home it worked only when applying the brakes. :( This leads me to believe a connection is loose and the forward pressure from applying the brakes makes contact. Back in the garage I put it on the center stand and with a flashlight could see most of the wires up front. I could not see the back of the speedometer however. I checked for loose wire as far as I could reach and took a couple of test rides, but no avail. I can take it down to my dealer and have them check it out, but will be without the scoot for awhile. Has anyone had the dash out of the X500? Mine is an 09 with about 2900 miles on it. If it is just a loose connection and I can find it I had just as soon fix it myself. Station Park Honda, my dealer has a good service dept and I know both the service manager and the general manager. I also know they are backed up and it could take a week or so for them to get to it. I would prefer that route only if there is a defective part. Anyhow, like I said anyone got instructions on how to get to the back of the dash or has anyone had this problem and knows what the fix is? In the meantime I stuck the GPS on so I could see how fast I am going.
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Update: Got in there and was able to find and reach the plug on the back of the dash unit. It's not loose :(. Checked the prox clearance, it is in spec :(. Wires from prox unit to main plug are ok and connectors are tight :(.
Looks like a trip to the dealer to leave my baby with them. It is looking an awful lot like it may be the dash unit has something loose inside.
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FRom what you said it does sound more like a cold solder joint than a mechanical problem.
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FRom what you said it does sound more like a cold solder joint than a mechanical problem.
..cold solder joints can be difficult to find, because they may appear to be just fine...
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A bench full of test equip. is about the only way. Most of this stuff is assembled by robots, doing work people CAN NOT. Have you seen some of the TINY circuts involved. It's all made to be throw away now.
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I have come to the same conclusion. I had the front plastic off so I could get to everything. It is not a bad connection I can find. The prox pickup clearance is in spec. Ether the pickup has something loose inside (easier to replace but not likely) or the dash unit has something loose inside, most likely a bad solder joint. It's going to the dealer this week so they can order parts. Guess I am going to find out how efficient the Kymco parts supple chain is.
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It may be less expensive to order the parts VIA, stadium yamaha-kymco parts on line, and install them yourself. By the time you add the dealer rate (labor) you may come out ahead,. If it is indeed an intermittent problem, chances are the dealer will not be able to "spec" the trouble, and order the part to have you "give it a try". Unless it is a warranty. Just a thought. Best of luck...
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It's under warranty. I wanted to check it myself first just to make sure I didn't leave it with them only to find it was a simple loose connection. That means I'll have to ride something else :( till I get it back. I't rather fix it myself than give it up for the time they need to troubleshoot and fix... I know the parts manager as well and can count on him to expedite parts if he can.
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Dropped it off at my dealer today... :(
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Hi Jim, Been watching the forum to find out what the outcome was ragarding your speedo, any news yet. Haven't been riding for over a week now, been rain everyday, and I'm chicken to ride in the rain, and every spare moment working on a private job in my workshop. Making a few extra bucks. Think I'll put them away incase that sleek looking 2010 X500 finds it's way to our shores or even a X700 who knows. Take care.
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Sorry to say the X500 is still in the shop waiting for parts. Seems like most parts are readily available except for stuff that seldom fails. I was not in a hurry, but I really did not mean for them to store it for the winter ether. Haven't been down there since last Saturday so haven't had a chance for an update. Riding the Wing isn't bad ether, but sure miss the scooter in town and on the little twisty back roads. I figure it will be done when the weather is the worst (cold with sleet or sleet mixed with some snow) and then I gotta ride it home.
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Well my friend I guess I groan a bit too soon when it rains but I have to say overall we have wonderful weather for riding. Weatherman said good weather today and tomorrow so up at 05h00 gave the scoot a good clean, collected lots of dust standing last 13 days and left for work at 06h50. Beautiful weather, scooter going oh so smooth, hit the hiway smiling from ear to ear, thermometer says 24c now how can you beat that. I feel for you guys who have the cold and snow weather. Sure hope they get the parts for your scooter soon. Take care.
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Well they finally got to the root of the problem. I told them I was not in a hurry, humm they took me at my word. But they did find the problem. They got the specs from Kymco to check the prox pickup and found it was not sending. Then by moving the wires they found where they had pinched the wire in a clamp installed at the factory and the wire broke inside. Any slight movement would make contact, such as putting on the brakes. New pickup installed and all is well. Now it's too cold for me to ride, not counting the wind and winter mix of rain and snow that's due to hit tonight. Now I am glad my car has all wheel drive and a good heater.
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All's well that ends well. Just in time to winterize!
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Hi Jim I'm pleased the speedo is sorted out. I sure feel for you guys in your winter. Here on the east coast where I am the winter is the best riding weather, we don't get much rain during our winter months and the average temp is around 8-10 C early morning warming to around 16c during the day. Great riding weather. If we venture inland away from the coast then the temps can drop quiet low like 2-3C overnight but still not too bad because it's normally dry and sunny and gets up to around 12C during the day. Then again with all the global warming and changes going on who knows what's going to happen. Been raining almost daily here now for the last two weeks so I been in the 4 wheel cage and dying to get on the bike/scoot, we closing for the holidays from 16th and reopen 4th Jan so I plan to do lots of riding, can't wait. Regards from sunny? no wet, Durban RSA.
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Bryan, now you are killing me. :'( In addition to the temperatures, this weekend is supposed to be cold with 60% chance of precipitation. Depending on how cold it gets that will be ether really cold rain or mixed with snow/sleet. Not good to ride in, even dressed warm. I may just because I can't stand it, ride to a late breakfast in the morning before all that starts. Wow, good riding weather and 3 weeks off for the holidays. I must not be living right.
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Well Jim, the real good riding weather is in our winter but right now we into summer, being sub-tropical here we get plenty rain this time of year. Yesterday at 11h00 going through Pietermaritzburg the oxford thermometer said it was 32C and the barometer was showing about 80% humidity. Got to drink lots of water cause I really build up a sweat in the full riding kit in that type of weather. It's not too bad while cruising but when I stop or slow down through the built up areas the discomfort rises. The news reported some biker in my neck of the woods was caught yesterday at 233 km/h in a 120 km/h zone down the south coast and was arrested. he was out on bail and will appear today in court. Regards from Durban RSA.
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Wow, that 80% humidity really makes it feel really hot. Last year coming around through Las Vagas in Nevada we had a couple of days of riding at 42 C. I was worried the tires would melt the road was so hot. That was one trip I was really glad not to be camping. An air conditioned motel room was a life saver at the end of the day. However, humidity was very low out there. I would hate to see those temperatures with the 80% humidity. I did not realize your climate was so warm. I thought being that far south it would have gotten cooler.
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Wow, that 80% humidity really makes it feel really hot. Last year coming around through Las Vagas in Nevada we had a couple of days of riding at 42 C. I was worried the tires would melt the road was so hot. That was one trip I was really glad not to be camping. An air conditioned motel room was a life saver at the end of the day.
The highest temperature I`ve seen while riding was 46 C a few years ago, on the road going home from work.
So, it was while the scooter was moving (I had Beverly 200 at the time), I am not talking about sitting-in-the-sun temperature.
Engine power felt like it was cut in half. :)
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Axy, I am surprised you didn't melt. Is this a dry heat or a lot of humidity? Isn't the BV200 liquid cooled, I know the BV's are cousins of the Scarabeo's. All of them fine machines.
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Axy, I am surprised you didn't melt. Is this a dry heat or a lot of humidity? Isn't the BV200 liquid cooled, I know the BV's are cousins of the Scarabeo's. All of them fine machines.
Luckily, dry... I live in Mediterranean climate area on the Croatian coast of Adriatic sea, generally, when it's very hot here, there is no humidity, when it's raining, that's when it can be either cold and raining without humidity or warm and raining with 100 % humidity and fog. :)
Bev was liquid cooled with fan, just like my current People 250S and unlike Agility 125 that is forced air-oil cooled without external fan.
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I am brand new to this site. I saw this post yesterday. I just want to say thank you to all the informative guys here. I just got a 2007 xciting 500, only gave 2500 for it with 1200 miles on it and I LOVE IT.
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You stole it, now ride the heck out of it, it's just starting to break in. I was dragging the centerstand last week, I love the way this thing handles. Welcome and tells us about your adventures with your X500. :)
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You have courage winginman, I afraid to scratch my paint! Congrats Arkie! That is a "steal". I'm sure you are gonna love the scoot. It's a different experience riding something you would think is supposed to be sub par, and finding there are MANY advantages to scootin. Good luck, and Happy New Year!
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Its been sitting for awhile and runs rough at idle. What do you guys think I need to do about this clean the carb or just take it out and ride. It is different since it weighs so much more then what I am use. The first ride I took it on I rode it not even a 1/4 mile and backed out at 85 it kinda scared me. But what do I need to do about the rough idle and rough running. Thanks Arkie
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Do all the basic maintenance. Fluid changes, filters, new plug, tire pressure,put a wrench on all the major nuts& bolts. The more things you touch the better chance you will prevent future problems. The first tank I would add 2oz. of Sea Foam conditioner, to try to clear the fuel system. You may need to adjust the idle mix screw to get a smoother idle, and a clean circuit is the only way you will be sure.
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Thanks Zombie I already added the sea foam. Ill adjust the idle up a bit to get her to smooth out and ride it a bit
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There are several posts in detail about adjusting the idle mix. Use the KEYWORD search , and you should come up with it. If not post back, and I can "walk "you thu it
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You backed off about 85... If that's MPH there isn't anything wrong with the top end. Good luck on the low end. Looks like the guys have you on the right track with the Seafoam and readjusting the idle mixture. Give the Seafoam time to work and clean the system. Best way to do that is ride... may take awhile if it's as cold in Ark and it is in KY. We rode yesterday and it was 24 F here. Did alright for about an hour then had to head for the barn when my feet and fingers got too cold. Next purchase will be some heated gloves and inner soles. Found some that run off rechargeable batteries, gonna order some and we will see how they work.
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Its 8 degrees F here today so no riding. I am going to pull the carb and clean it. Big Bertha pops when you run it at about 3500 rpms every once in awhile. I work on scooters myself so the adjusting so be pretty straight forward. I backed off at 85 mph because how quick it got into the top end. I am use to a 2007 Yamaha C3 which is 50cc and it runs maybe 45 mph. I am going to take Big Bertha out and ride her for awhile before I start taking anything apart. What brand of oil do yall recomend. Thank You guys Arkie
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Hi Everyone, Finally back at the office, sure pray that you guys have a great 2010. Those temps you are talking about are way too cold for me to even imagine, I been seeing some really heavy winter weather up in the northern hemisphere regions on the tv. Here, this morning, it's 07h30 and the temp is 23C or 73.5F, slight sea breeze and not a cloud to be seen. Just want to keep on riding, damn wish I had a rich daddy. Regards from Durban RSA.
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If I had a rich daddy I'd be somewhere warm enough to ride... It was 16 F ( -9 C) this morning and we are expecting 5 inches of snow tonight and then it's gonna get cold... To cold for me too... :(
Enjoy the fine weather for me and go for another ride. :)
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If I had a rich daddy I'd be somewhere warm enough to ride... It was 16 F ( -9 C) this morning and we are expecting 5 inches of snow tonight and then it's gonna get cold... To cold for me too... :(
Enjoy the fine weather for me and go for another ride. :)
The problem is that in the places where it is almost always warm and good for a ride, there is a major lack of "rich daddies".
The colder, the more rich daddies. :) :) :)
Dammit! :)
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My wife studied in Yaroslavl (NE of Moscow), but she couldn't find a rich daddy. :(
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My wife studied in Yaroslavl (NE of Moscow), but she couldn't find a rich daddy. :(
I will NOT ask why sad smiley at the end of your post! :)))))
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I will NOT ask why sad smiley at the end of your post! :)))))
..sad smiley....hhmmm...how can that be??
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Back to "Speedo problems"
I did mension elsewere that my speedo was far out! at 120km it showed 138kmh
I have sorted it out and its 100% now!
The sensor at the wheel was to close to the "grid" it should be one mil. away....mine actualy touched at one ore two places. it has a allen key adjustment but i found it easier to make a thicker spacer and fitted that!
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Thanks Andre, that info will certainly come in handy. I will be examining mine as soon as I get some free time to fiddle which should be after the end of this month because I have received a retrenchment letter and myself and a number of others will be out as from the 28th. Take care.
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Back to "Speedo problems"
I did mension elsewere that my speedo was far out! at 120km it showed 138kmh
I have sorted it out and its 100% now!
The sensor at the wheel was to close to the "grid" it should be one mil. away....mine actualy touched at one ore two places. it has a allen key adjustment but i found it easier to make a thicker spacer and fitted that!
..my A50 has gears...no sensor...no adjustment that I can tell...
:'( <<< sad, crying smiley...
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Hey Bryan! sign of the times! i find things also sticky! waiting for a policy to pay out! should have been paid out by 25th....stil nothing! hope u find new job soon!
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Thanks Andre, For you kind thought however the math is (RSA + Age 58 + Pale Male = ???). I don't think it's even worthwhile doing the CV thing, I'll have to try and do some private jobs from the house. At least I won't have the repo man come knocking at my door. Take care.
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Bryan, welcome to the club. I was same age when they shut down my office. It's been 4 years and that same formula pretty much is true here. I work for myself now. Not getting rich, but still here and scootin. Real glad my wife is working as well.