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Scooters - 125 to 300 => People 150 => Topic started by: neuro on October 19, 2009, 04:35:56 PM
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I've tried to search the forum archives for an answer to this, didn't find one... Forgive me if I missed it but here goes:
There are lots of recommendations on other forums for great scooter tires (Michelin, Pirelli, Avon... etc...) but none of these seem to have the sizes used for the People 150: 80/80-16 front, 80/100-16 rear.
Any recommendations for replacement tires better than the stock OEM ones?
thanks.
Neuro
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Although I do not ride that scoot, I have found stepping UP in tire size to help on every scoot I have owned. Taller should be done in pairs to maintain the steering geomitry. Wider can be done one at a time. A slightly wider tire will improve your cornering and your overall confidence on the scoot. Someone else may have the ideal make/ model tire for you, but any of the Manuf. you posted are a vast improvement over the stock tire. "If it fits-Run it"
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Thanks Zombie, I must admit feeling a bit cautious with that skinny front 80/80-16 tire... still, it's rated at 93 mph, and I can't get the scoot over 65! What tire sizes would you then recommend?
Anyone else with similar or differing opinions on the matter of increasing tire size?
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Here's a possible outcome of choosing bigger tires, let me know if it's prudent or otherwise.
Avon makes the AM63 Viper Stryke tires for scooters.
OEM front tire = 80/80-16
Viper Stryke front tire, either 100/80-16 or 110/70-16
OEM rear tire = 100/80-16
Viper Stryke rear tire 120/80-16
Are these increases too much?
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As long as they fit, it sounds like a pretty sporty set up! The slightly lower profile in th front will in effect change the attack angle in corners, giving a quicker/ lighter feel, and the wider rear should build confidence in the scoot. I am 2 sizes up on my zx rear, and 1 on the front w/ both being 2 wider. It feels like a totally different scoot. Right now they are Kenda which really don't perform at top speed (they tend to develop a bounce), so I plan to use the Pirelli on my next change out. There are not too many things on a scoot that cannot be changed from the recommendations.
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Here's a possible outcome of choosing bigger tires, let me know if it's prudent or otherwise.
Avon makes the AM63 Viper Stryke tires for scooters.
OEM front tire = 80/80-16
Viper Stryke front tire, either 100/80-16 or 110/70-16
OEM rear tire = 100/80-16
Viper Stryke rear tire 120/80-16
Are these increases too much?
..I have a Viper Stryke on the front of my Agility...I love it!...It's extremely sure-footed, even in a driving rain...
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Testify Brother!
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I doubt very much that you'll be able to fit any other size tire than the OEM size. Anything else might rub or, wouldn't even fit the rim. I've looked everywhere for an option to the OEM tires. SAVA is the only one I found. Not sure how good it was on wet surfaces, I stuck with the Cheng Shin OEM's.
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The rim size will Always be the same< and you are right that some sizes may rub. Even the same size from 2 different Manuf> may not be the same. I however am a FIRM believer in making things better than they are. I have the tools to change things (within reason), and would not shy away from a minor mod to get better traction/ stability. If the fender has to be moved..., or a mounting point needs to be changed... Just saying , some are "purists" while I like to shake things up a little. If someone is uncomfortable w/ the advice I have... NO harm! There are loads of tires within the limits of the scoot, it's just something may need to be modded.
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If anyone successfully mounted wider tires on their People 150, I'd like to hear about it.
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I could definatly go for some wider tires on my p150
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Here's a possible outcome of choosing bigger tires, let me know if it's prudent or otherwise.
Avon makes the AM63 Viper Stryke tires for scooters.
OEM front tire = 80/80-16
Viper Stryke front tire, either 100/80-16 or 110/70-16
OEM rear tire = 100/80-16
Viper Stryke rear tire 120/80-16
Are these increases too much?
So, did those tires fit?
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Hope this helps I don't have a metric measure to check.
Metric
Examples: 180/55ZR-17 · M130/80-18 · 130/80HB-18 · 130/80H-18
The Metric tire size system is the most common and also the most descriptive. Metric sized tires are used on just about every type of motorcycle, from the latest sport bikes, to cruisers, touring bikes and everything in between. An "M" sometimes precedes a metric size when there is no speed rating used. It simply means that it is a motorcycle tire. Another letter is sometimes used after the speed rating to indicate belted (B) or radial (R) tire construction.
In the first example above, 180 is the width in millimeters, 55 is the aspect ratio (cross-section height is 55% of the width), Z is the speed rating (149+ mph), R specifies it's a radial construction tire, and 17 is the wheel diameter in inches.
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They will fit check my post in people 50.
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Any updates on fitting larger tires on this wonderfull machine??
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I was able to do it on a p50 and now own a p150 also and it has more room don't see why it would not.
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The Avons at 1 size larger look perfect. Let ya know in ~8 months.
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Everything I learned about motorcycle tires is that if you mount a wider than stock tire, you won't have a full contact patch due to it being "pinched."
You're not laying down enough horsepower to need a wider rear tire.
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Everything I learned about motorcycle tires is that if you mount a wider than stock tire, you won't have a full contact patch due to it being "pinched."
You're not laying down enough horsepower to need a wider rear tire.
Very true.
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Really, you want to improve rear tire traction, I wonder if changing out the rear suspension might be more efficacious. In theory, this should keep the rear wheel in better contact with the road.
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I'm getting my wheel powdercoated and I thought I'd get rid of the OEM rim protectors once the wheels are off. No kidding, the tire replacement options out there are, for all intents and purposes, non-existent.
I'd think it be cheaper to have a more standard sized tire as suppliers wouldn't have to make basically a one-off. No real point to this post, just a vent. Thank you.
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I personally would go with a 110/70/16 on your scooter. Its a little wider (more rubber on the road) sidewall a little shorter (better handling less sidewall flex) In Michelins if you can afford it! You wont regret it and it will feel like a whole different bike in a positive way to make you wish you would have done it sooner.
Here is the link I buy tires from and they are competitively priced. Shipping... well they arent the quickest, but I am impatient.
http://www.bikebandit.com/110-70-16-scooter-tires/c/a642336a4a12a634830 (http://www.bikebandit.com/110-70-16-scooter-tires/c/a642336a4a12a634830)
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I know this thread is really old but it keeps coming up every time I google so I thought I would update it for anyone else that is still looking for compatible replacements. I bought the Avon AM63 Viper Stryke to replace both the front and rear. I tried to bump up the size for both. I ordered the 100/80/16 for the front and the 120/80/16 for the rear. Unfortunately, the rears are way too wide so I ended up putting 100/80/16 on both front and rear. I really like the look and feel of the larger front tire. The ride feels much more stable with the wider front tire and it also looks a lot nicer with the beefier front. Hope that helps anyone looking for replacements
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Thank you Web!
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..i loves me some avons....
:-*
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I know this thread is really old but it keeps coming up every time I google so I thought I would update it for anyone else that is still looking for compatible replacements. I bought the Avon AM63 Viper Stryke to replace both the front and rear. I tried to bump up the size for both. I ordered the 100/80/16 for the front and the 120/80/16 for the rear. Unfortunately, the rears are way too wide so I ended up putting 100/80/16 on both front and rear. I really like the look and feel of the larger front tire. The ride feels much more stable with the wider front tire and it also looks a lot nicer with the beefier front. Hope that helps anyone looking for replacements
Thanks for the review WS. My P150 is due for new tires and I believe your review just closed the deal on Viper Strykes for me.
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Hey guys. Just thought I'd post a pic of what the front tire looks like. Like I said it looks more substantial and feels more solid underneath me. The OEM tires just looked and felt like an oversized bike tire. Judge for yourself.
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3869378/IMG_20120511_130340-1.jpg)
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..i likes that tire!!!!
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I can Dig It! That's what they had in mind the whole time...
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I wonder if a larger front tire would make the speedometer a bit more accurate?
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Since the speedo drive is on the front wheel, as long as the new tire has a greater circumference than the original, it should reduce the displayed speed error compared to actual speed. Stock speedo on my People 150 is about 14% optimistic (compared to actual speed as read by a GPS). A new tire with a 14% greater circumference would theoretically put it spot-on. So any larger tire (up to 14% maximum) that still allows safe predictable handling could only improve things.
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What about using a 100/80-16 (Avon) on the front and 110/8-16 (Pirelli - http://www.bikebandit.com/pirelli-st-66-touring-scooter-tire?b=1683134 (http://www.bikebandit.com/pirelli-st-66-touring-scooter-tire?b=1683134)) on the back? Or is 110 too wide on for the back?
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I just mounted the Avon 100/80-16 up front and the Michelin CityGrip 110/80/16 on the rear. The Michelin is a front tire, not available as a rear. Since it's NOT a radial, it's perfectly acceptable to mount in reverse rotation and use it as a rear. In fact, before motorcycle tires came in Fronts and Rears, that's what was always done. The 110/80 rear has a larger circumference than the stock 100/18, and necessitated slotting of the mounting holes for the hugger (internal splash guard under the rear body work. 2 minutes with a Dremel tool.) Clears nicely, feels much better handling. The 100/80 up front reduces the speedo error substantially. According to GPS, it's now about 4 MPH optimistic across the board, rather than the 14-15% variation from actual with the stock front tire.
(If you don't want to enlarge the rear tire diameter, you could try the 110/70-16 which is more readily available. If the tire spec's out true to numbers, it's diameter would be slightly smaller than the stock tire, though wider. No personal experience with this one, though.) 120's are definitely too wide.
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..avon is my tire of choice...have long life, and grip like glue...