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General => Technical | How To => Topic started by: Stig / Major Tom on September 07, 2015, 11:50:56 AM
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Since I commute to work in the dark 365 I like to have something extra happening on the rear of my scooter.
On the LIKE200i I installed a lighted Bestem top case.
Not wanting a case on my Burgman, I looked at adding LED lights on the rear.
A light bar, or something tucked under the rear spoiler, or added around the license plate??
Then I happened upon a Burgman forum post in which the OP spoke of using Tailblazer bulbs. An easy installation...last a long time, are bright....can be moved from bike to bike. A little pricey.....but looked idiotproof.....just my thing.
I went with the halogen Tailblazer bulbs (reports were disappointing about the LED version). The Burgman is crazy easy to get at the bulbs, so the installation was simple.
I like them. Bright, they pulse a few times as I apply the brakes.....and haven't altered the looks or messed with the wiring.
They came with extra bulbs.....and reports are that I won't need the spares for a very long time, if ever.
I can recommend these bulbs if you're looking for a little extra protection from following cars.
Stig
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What, no pictures?! 😮
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It wasn't a DIY....the Burgman folks are way ahead of me on this kind of thing.
And I never can see any difference in tail light photos (some can see a difference) - and don't know how to put a video on here of the bulbs blinking, which is where the interest is.
Don't think any Kymco folks are interested in how easy the back end of a Burgman comes apart. (no screws, bolts or panel pins - just pop the panels off ! Oil & filter changes are easy and brake fluid reservoirs are in the open - but shame on Suzuki for hiding the gear oil drain.)
Maybe the new lights do change the look of my Burgman...but I can't see it.
Stig
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No link or pics? He's slippin I tell ya, must be getting old................I'm interested in those bulbs, LINK PLEASE!
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I was in a neighboring town about 4 months ago. I had stopped for a red light at a very large intersection.
Across from me at about 20 yards a guy had stopped for the light also. He was facing me.
He had some kind of strobing lights on the front of his bicycle. Man those lights got every ones attention. They were really bright.
Wish I knew what they were.
Those things would have to be a great safety feature for low light or night riding.
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No link or pics? He's slippin I tell ya, must be getting old................I'm interested in those bulbs, LINK PLEASE!
Here is KISANTECH LINK and their $109.95 price
http://kisantech.com/mag/index.php/pfin/20w-d2pak.html (http://kisantech.com/mag/index.php/pfin/20w-d2pak.html)
OR
Shinhopples
Motorcycle- ATV- Snowmobile - Tires- Parts- Accessories Their Price $84.94
http://www.shop.shinhopples.com/product.sc?productId=735&categoryId=65 (http://www.shop.shinhopples.com/product.sc?productId=735&categoryId=65)
Ride Safe,
Doc
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What, no pictures?! 😮
Blink several times to seem them modulate.
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Fronts too, keep blinking!
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Stig
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Hello Stig,
Those are old pictures of your Burgman 400. You have a nice passenger backrest on it now.
Those early summer rides for coffee look relaxing. I enjoy the pictures, even the old ones.
Ride Safe,
Doc
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Hello Stig,
Those are old pictures of your Burgman 400. You have a nice passenger backrest on it now.
Those early summer rides for coffee look relaxing. I enjoy the pictures, even the old ones.
Ride Safe,
Doc
Well, yes & no.
Removed the back rest until I get more seat time with this scoot. Shooting for next spring to be more comfortable riding with my wife or daughter back there. I understand that scooters with underseat storage require the passenger to sit stupid high above the driver....but don't like it. Remember motorcycles with a nice long and flat bench seat for both of you? Sitting one behind the other, helmets level w/ea. other!....the way all bikes should be IMHO.
Removed the back rest since it obscures some % of the goofy English "POLITE" vest I'm wearing every day.
Also, glad I removed the back rest since I found one screw gone, and 2 more had loosened on the cover. Screws into clips - which cannot be tighted too much - or accept locktite. Will use a nut & washer on them next time.
The 4 bolts into the scoot are solid - heck to get back out!
Keen eyes, though....!
See today's pic...
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Stig
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The high passenger seating position is one of the reasons my wife doesn't like riding. She said, 'It was too tippy sitting way up there.' and she hated corners. When my dad passed away in 1976 I inherited his old 70 Honda 450. I rode it a year before I sold it. I liked the seat, but I was a lot younger then.
What's with the BRICK on the back of your bike?
Ride Safe
Doc
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Ebay 4 bucks 2 bits. Haven't tried these but for the price I'm going to. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Motorcycle-Brake-Rear-Tail-19-LED-12V-Red-Round-Lamp-Warning-Flashing-Light-/261625030720?hash=item3cea112840&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Motorcycle-Brake-Rear-Tail-19-LED-12V-Red-Round-Lamp-Warning-Flashing-Light-/261625030720?hash=item3cea112840&vxp=mtr)
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I see where it works as a tail light also. It states it flashes slowly regularly then increases when brakes are applied. I wonder how that would work. Also it's 4cm/dia x 5cm/depth in dimensions. I'll have to take my lens off to see if it'll fit. Any thoughts on this? The price is right.
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The high passenger seating position is one of the reasons my wife doesn't like riding. She said, 'It was too tippy sitting way up there.' and she hated corners. When my dad passed away in 1976 I inherited his old 70 Honda 450. I rode it a year before I sold it. I liked the seat, but I was a lot younger then.
What's with the BRICK on the back of your bike?
Ride Safe
Doc
Ha, took me a minute on the brick...
Loved the Honda flat seats. Wife and I rode many miles on them.
A couple of us in medic training in TX bought Honda 350's.
One buddy bought the new 1968 CL version. We convinced him that it was a true off-road bike....The two of us who got into the medic training by being conscientious objectors (1A-O, therefore Pope-like) , placed out hands on our hearts and declared > "Look at those pipes - nearly a full race moto-cross Bultaco!" . He caved & the 4 of us entered it into a 24 hour enduro across the TX desert. We sprung for a spare tube and a spark plug in our pit-crew tool box. Spent much more on a cooler and refreshments.
At some point during the night, out there in the desert, the pipes started cracking and then sheared off near the cylinders. This was good, because we could now see the blue flames coming through the dark and could get the next rider ready....though you had to ride in a funny position to keep from flaming your Levis. We went through quite a few tube changes (spent our beer $ at the spares truck) , the chain guard snapped off, and one fender support broke. I think I still have a cactus thorn in my heel to this day from one of my off's in a dry stream bed (which was not on the course)
And we had a he-- of a good time, got a $2 trophy as the only finisher in our class....and pretty much destroyed a nice new Honda. Didn't matter - shortly - we were all booked for the games in sunny S.E. Asia, and sold our bikes. One guy had a Bridgestone. Really cheap looking bike. He was rightly ashamed of it....
Mine was a green and white CB350.....loved that bike! #1 selling bike in the world at that time.
PS: looked up the specs on this bike. Really short 52" wheelbase (my Burg is 62"), 345 lbs. @$700 new, seemed bigger at the time. CB's Brochure said 106mph, I saw 105 one night going to Austin and back in 1/2 hr...seemed like, but I might have been a touch suicidal w/my orders for 'Nam on the orderly rm bulletin bd..
Stig
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Hi, Stig.
I've got the Kisan Tech T50W TailBlazer brake light flasher installed, as well as this:
http://www.interstatecycle.com/oemcatalogs/p/all/aftermarket_street-electrical/51635d4e7841550e64e018d4/l-e-d-license-plate-carrier (http://www.interstatecycle.com/oemcatalogs/p/all/aftermarket_street-electrical/51635d4e7841550e64e018d4/l-e-d-license-plate-carrier)
That's wired in to the TailBlazer as well, so it flashes when the brake light flashes. It's clear acrylic with red LEDs embedded in it. I taped off the edges of the LED license plate carrier, and painted the inner parts of it with red paint. I was operating under the assumption that red reflects red light, so the red paint would reflect the red LED light outward toward the perimeter of the LED license plate carrier, making it appear brighter. It is pretty bright.
I'm 100% LED on this bike now. The brake light is this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1157-High-Power-5630-Chip-Cree-LED-Red-Turn-Signal-Brake-Tail-Lights-Bulbs-/231028588922 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1157-High-Power-5630-Chip-Cree-LED-Red-Turn-Signal-Brake-Tail-Lights-Bulbs-/231028588922)
It's so bright that you can see it reflecting off reflective signs a block away at night. That, combined with the TailBlazer really grabs the attention of vehicles approaching me at stop lights. I keep a close eye on my mirrors and flash the brake light when cars are approaching.
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Ebay 4 bucks 2 bits. Haven't tried these but for the price I'm going to. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Motorcycle-Brake-Rear-Tail-19-LED-12V-Red-Round-Lamp-Warning-Flashing-Light-/261625030720?hash=item3cea112840&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Motorcycle-Brake-Rear-Tail-19-LED-12V-Red-Round-Lamp-Warning-Flashing-Light-/261625030720?hash=item3cea112840&vxp=mtr)
I see where it works as a tail light also. It states it flashes slowly regularly then increases when brakes are applied. I wonder how that would work. Also it's 4cm/dia x 5cm/depth in dimensions. I'll have to take my lens off to see if it'll fit. Any thoughts on this? The price is right.
I wonder about State Laws in regards to driving around with constantly flashing taillights? I can understand them flashing when you're braking. I don't know if I want them flashing 100% of the time.
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Some times those Chinese can really mess up a description using engwish. Why in the world would they design a tail light to flash is beyond me. I'm thinking it's wrong, for the price I probably will take a gamble. The solution is that $84 bulb listed above. Probably for 2, hard to swallow that price for an 1157 bulb. Hard to put a price on safety huh? I've been wanting to add an extra tail/brake light for months now and have been leaning towards a license plate holder addition. There's a million choices and just haven't made up my mind yet. I hate splicing into the stock wiring on a new bike but will when I've decided exactly what I'm going to do. This flashing bulb is plug and play and I like that. Plus it seems like a great safety feature. Probably will order the elcheapo and post on the results. If it's worthless the 80 buck bulb will probably be in my future.
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Made up my mind, gonna give these a shot. These were recommended on a Kawasaki forum, 1157 plug n play. http://www.ebay.com/itm/161644645293?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rmvSB=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/161644645293?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rmvSB=true)
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Made up my mind, gonna give these a shot. These were recommended on a Kawasaki forum, 1157 plug n play. http://www.ebay.com/itm/161644645293?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rmvSB=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/161644645293?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rmvSB=true)
Good looking bulbs.
Give us a report!
Stig
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Ordered them. They come with strong recommendations on the kawi forums. Only thing is endurance, we'll see. Stig you go ballz to the wall when acquiring a new ride. I need to watch my pennies since I bought a bike/scoot. I admire you. Will report on the bulbs.........................2 weeks soonest.
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Ordered them. They come with strong recommendations on the kawi forums. Only thing is endurance, we'll see. Stig you go ballz to the wall when acquiring a new ride. I need to watch my pennies since I bought a bike/scoot. I admire you. Will report on the bulbs.........................2 weeks soonest.
Ordered them. They come with strong recommendations on the kawi forums. Only thing is endurance, we'll see. Stig you go ballz to the wall when acquiring a new ride. I need to watch my pennies since I bought a bike/scoot. I admire you. Will report on the bulbs.........................2 weeks soonest.
Now... I put some stickers and a pair of $30 Honda 500x mirrors on the Forza and a $30 take-off screen which I painted. That's it. Oh, and some nice adjustable levers.....all of which helped sell it according to the new owner.
The Burgman has a new $7 iridium plug, stickers, and a new shorty screen from Ermax ($100) since the stock was horrible for wind into your helmet! Had to change it out....unrideable above 25mph!
Spread over two years I've upgraded all my gear for safety.
Read yesterday of a couple who crashed on their Honda PCXs in Atlanta....both with breaks...one with no jacket
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Some times those Chinese can really mess up a description using engwish. Why in the world would they design a tail light to flash is beyond me. I'm thinking it's wrong, for the price I probably will take a gamble. The solution is that $84 bulb listed above. Probably for 2, hard to swallow that price for an 1157 bulb. Hard to put a price on safety huh? I've been wanting to add an extra tail/brake light for months now and have been leaning towards a license plate holder addition. There's a million choices and just haven't made up my mind yet. I hate splicing into the stock wiring on a new bike but will when I've decided exactly what I'm going to do. This flashing bulb is plug and play and I like that. Plus it seems like a great safety feature. Probably will order the elcheapo and post on the results. If it's worthless the 80 buck bulb will probably be in my future.
For splicing into the wiring, get those little locking caps that clip over the existing wire. You don't have to cut any wires and it's a very quick way to wire in your extra lights. Since the lights are low current draw, the locking caps work with no problems.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20pcs-x-Nylon-Mid-Way-Spades-Quick-Connector-Wire-Terminals-Splice-22-18AWG-SALE-/310410306962 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/20pcs-x-Nylon-Mid-Way-Spades-Quick-Connector-Wire-Terminals-Splice-22-18AWG-SALE-/310410306962)
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having trouble navigating the wedsite... I have a 2012 200i thats burning my starters and draining my battery.... I've had it repaired less that a mouth ago by a dealer. Its the starter doesn't disengage when trying to stop it. It continues to cycle thru even thou it's turned off. Does anyone have this trouble or are their are any recalls issued? Please help... Exsaperated CC
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having trouble navigating the wedsite... I have a 2012 200i thats burning my starters and draining my battery.... I've had it repaired less that a mouth ago by a dealer. Its the starter doesn't disengage when trying to stop it. It continues to cycle thru even thou it's turned off. Does anyone have this trouble or are their are any recalls issued? Please help... Exsaperated CC
Starter motor relay shorted or stuck closed. Replace starter relay.
Here's where the starter relay is, I'm pretty certain. In a rubber holder.
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part # 35850-KHD8-C00
RELAY ASSY START $38.21
Remove seat and disconnect wires to the relay. Test or replace.
Was this replaced by the dealer a month ago?
There is no recall on this issue that I know of.
Hope this helps, post back if still problems.
Stig
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I would be interested in upgrading my brake light also. Unfortunately I have a GTI300 that appears to be a major project to access the taillight. Will wait for more feedback before I spend half a day dismantling mine to change a bulb. Pease keep us informed on this.
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Got those bulbs [2] just haven't installed one yet, plan to this weekend. Will report soon.
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Mike, do you have service manual help for the tail light bulb.
Assumed every motor vehicle gave an easy way in to those bulbs.
Cannot go in from under the rear fender, or behind license frame.? On my LIKE200i is a plastic panel hiding the bulbs.......come at it from under the fender.
Sad business if such things are buried....
Stig
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The bulbs I ordered in post up above suck, don't waste your money. They work good as a tail light but do not blink brighter when brake light is applied. They just flash the tail light. Brake light needs to be brighter and flash to get the effect I want.