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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Downtown 300 => Topic started by: RubenC on February 13, 2016, 06:19:11 PM
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Hi Y'all
This past week, I rode past 40,000 miles on my 2012 Downtown. I noticed it when I was philling up my gas tank yesterday.
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Hi Y'all
This past week, I rode past 40,000 miles on my 2012 Downtown. I noticed it when I was philling up my gas tank yesterday.
Well done!
Can we get a full "owner's report" of mechanical-issues & service history?
Parts consumed; oil usage now; tire life; body panels & paint; reliability, etc. ?
The 300's are very popular Kymcos - lots of owners.
Would be good reading for those shopping a mid-size maxi scooter.
Thanks, Stig
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Yay! What a milestone! Mine is nudging 20000 miles and I am a clam with a smile. Want to hear your report when you feel like it. Use Stig's message as a check list!
Karl
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Hope it has been mostly trouble free.
If I can get 40-60 thousand out of my GT, I will be very pleased.
Keep us updated on your miles in the future.
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Ok Stig,
Every things seems to be good. I followed the owner's manual for servicing. Plus almost every Sunday morning, I check the oil and tires. My tires seem to lasted around 8500 miles. Brakes lasted about 17,000 miles. The belt lasted about 17,000 miles. The body has held up real well.
The only major issue was when Downie quit running back in October. My mileage around 37,670 when that happened. Moxie's replaced the valves and piston but never really determined what caused her to quit running.
Other things that have happened: One of the cables used to unlatch my seat broke. My left rubber foot pad broke. The battery lasted about 2.5 years. One of the screws used to keep the brake handle fell out. The small muffler protector has fallen off twice.
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Thanks Ruben!
A very good scooter for the $.
Stig
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Ok Stig,
Every things seems to be good. I followed the owner's manual for servicing. Plus almost every Sunday morning, I check the oil and tires. My tires seem to lasted around 8500 miles. Brakes lasted about 17,000 miles. The belt lasted about 17,000 miles. The body has held up real well.
The only major issue was when Downie quit running back in October. My mileage around 37,670 when that happened. Moxie's replaced the valves and piston but never really determined what caused her to quit running.
Other things that have happened: One of the cables used to unlatch my seat broke. My left rubber foot pad broke. The battery lasted about 2.5 years. One of the screws used to keep the brake handle fell out. The small muffler protector has fallen off twice.
Not good to hear of major engine failure at 37,000.
What engine oil were you using?.
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Boo, I was thinking the same thing. Many people have stated that the 200 cc and over water cooled Kymco engines were often good for well in excess of 50,000 miles if maintained properly and driven fairly sensibly. Hopefully, this is an anomaly. I sure hope to get more than 37,000 miles from my 2009 Xciting 250.
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Mobil One is the oil that i have been using. But tonight on the way home, my engine started to make a high pitch whine. Not a good thing. I will call Moxie's in the morning for a pickup.
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I dont understand why and how Moxie would determine the valves and piston needed replacing if they didnt know what had caused the bike to stop running in the first place. I got my DT300 from Burleson Powersports because I didn't like the work Moxie had done on my daughter's old 1985 Honda 250 elite. I now have 26500 on my DT300 and havent had a problem other than routine replacement of belt, tires and brakes......knock on wood!
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Even Kymco USA couldn't explain why it quit running. Everything was in specification.
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A Downie Update: The left crankcase cover screen broke, melted, became a ball and was rolling in the same area as the drive pulley. The screen allows fresh air into the pulley area. Moxie did a temporary fix until the new crankcase cover comes in.
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Today's Mileage is approximately 42,200 miles and she broke down again. I was traveling around 70 MPH, the next thing I feel the scooter going into neutral and my speed decreasing. I safely pulled over to the side of the road, tried to increase my speed and nothing happened. I shut her off, then turned it on and still nothing happen. I had it towed to Moxie Scooters. I should know tomorrow as to what happened. My wife suggested that it might be time to get a new scooter.
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I gotta respond to replacing valves and piston but not knowing what caused the shut-down: @$%!!@*##!! All of us that do our own valves adjust know how well these 300's are built. There is some other cause and I'll bet it is electrical. Electrics are pretty good on these as well but are really touchy about grounds and bad connections. One of the things I have done to these is goober up the connectors with silicone dielectric grease like Ford has done since the late eighties. Gets rid of the bad contact gremlins which will appear with hours and miles. Boy, would I like to work on your problem! By the way, I personally would avoid a repair facility that just throws parts at a problem hoping it will go away. Please keep us posted. Where you at anyway?
Karl
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Moxie is in TX Karl...I bought parts for my LIKE200I from them....shop has a good rep I think.
I don't know. ....you don't think 40,ooo miles at 70mph on a 300 might cause a failure in the engine??
I hear these Kymco 300's are solid.....but?
Stig
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Nah, 40000 should be just fine, I think. And that is because the whole line has been based on Honda construction. I can see the CVT getting shabby at that mileage but would bet money I don't have the engine is sound. It is always possible something could break but that is usually accompanied by noises, pretty loud noises! His description struck me as one of those "WWAAaaaaahhhhhooooooo......." to total shut-down things. Probably power interruptis to the ignition/ECU.
Three days to Moxie at old guy scooter speeds.....all I need is a flimsy excuse!
Karl
PS: I presume the cooling system is functional. Coolant failure could really fry an engine quick! Low coolant, pump or pipe failure could do it. Pipe failure would be soon noticed by smell and steam. Low coolant and pump failure would be more subtle.
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73,458 Km. ( 45,645 miles ) 2011 DT. 300i delivered June 26 2012, BREAK IN HARD , first 25 miles up hill WOT. down hill at speed closed throttle,. slow ride home and change the oil, then ride easy for 1,000 miles , with several oil changes , then change to full Syn. oil 5 / W 50 ,. till now,
when new at 60 MPH. RPM was over 6500 to 7000 , RPM. modified variator by extending slides , and installed DR. pulley sliders RPM now is 60 MPH. 5500 to 6000 RPM. 6100 RPM go,s to 70 MPH.
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Today's Mileage is approximately 42,200 miles and she broke down again. I was traveling around 70 MPH, the next thing I feel the scooter going into neutral and my speed decreasing. I safely pulled over to the side of the road, tried to increase my speed and nothing happened. I shut her off, then turned it on and still nothing happen. I had it towed to Moxie Scooters. I should know tomorrow as to what happened. My wife suggested that it might be time to get a new scooter.
The symptoms you describe sound exactly like drive belt failure.
If the engine starts but when you rev the engine to pull away if the engine rpm increases and the scooter goes nowhere, chances are the drive belt has been shredded.
Hopefully there's no other damage to the transmission.
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Agreed in that it sounds like a belt.
As far as the engine, acceleration will kill it fast than RPM's. on that note the sliders are great. With the fact that the bike is allot quicker for the same riding the motor does not have to work as hard to accelerate. This should help with longevity and the lowered RPM at speed keeps the bike closer to the peak torque level for the engine increasing again acceleration by lowering strain at the crank. Another side benefit by lowering torque required from the motor the belt is going threw less strain as well.
At least for the 300i 14gr sliders work well for me. My 200lbs. is well suited for the bike. Before though at 250lbs, and before final break-in, the bike was a bit sluggish.
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I heard from Moxie's this afternoon. It was the belt. I had a new belt and rollers installed back in November 2015, The mileage was 37,683. They are going to replace the belt and rollers. Hopefully, I will get it back this week. I will be using my wife's Like 200i until I get my Downtown back. I don't know why my belt would break with less 5,000 miles of use. Any thoughts?
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maybe it was not a genuine Kymco belt? as far as rollers if you could get the DR Pulley sliders you will probably like them better.
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I don't know why my belt would break with less 5,000 miles of use. Any thoughts?
Most likely to have been damaged by the foreign object rattling around inside the cover....
A Downie Update: The left crankcase cover screen broke, melted, became a ball and was rolling in the same area as the drive pulley. The screen allows fresh air into the pulley area. Moxie did a temporary fix until the new crankcase cover comes in.
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Most likely to have been damaged by the foreign object rattling around inside the cover....
+1, or wrong belt.
Stig
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Huge missed diagnosis on my part, doncha think?
Karl
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Wrong belt or cheap Chinese knock off is about the same. I would think if it were objects it would have presented itself as an issue before shredding the belt. now needing to replace the rollers again is suspicious though.
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Rollers don't actually roll......
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I am thinking about gettiing Dr. Pulley 20X12 14 grams sliders for the Lil Beast. What do you think?
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As mentioned, they are a great choice. They can all be subject to wear from dust etc..
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As mentioned, they are a great choice. They can all be subject to wear from dust etc..
I bought my DT second hand - when I cleaned out the transmission there was a teaspoon of black dust around the rollers. Rollers are 20x12mm.
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Lil Beastie should be ready by the end of the week. I hope. I am switchin to Dr. Pulley Sliders 20-12 14 grams. Wife thinks I ought to get another scooter since we have so much problems since November 2015.
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Wife thinks I ought to get another scooter since we have so much problems since November 2015.
Can never have enough spare/backup scooters. :) I ride one, needs service, switch to another until the weekend when you can work on it.
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Lil Beastie is coming home this afternoon
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New Problem or an old problem: last year, my right rear seat lock spring broke. The guys at Moxie replaced it with a re-engineered spring. It worked until last week. We are going to order a whole new right rear seat lock, Kymco doesn't just sell the spring by itself.
Also has anyone replaced their turn signal switch? My switch is acting up. Sometimes when I shift the the lever for a right turn or a left turn, the signal light will turn on and stay solid. It does not start blinking. If I jiggle the lever when it is in the center after a freeze up, the signal light will start blinking.
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how long a scooter or motorcycle will last including me.
Your lovely wife gave the ok for a new scoot.
Are you retarded?. Go get a new scoot and enjoy
life a little.