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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: kymconewguyontheblock on February 17, 2010, 11:11:40 PM
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Iv read a lot of post if Im getting a 2009 agility do I still cut the cdi the same as the 07 agility?
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I think I read somewhere on here that it is different. You still cut it but in a different spot. Search through previous posts and there should be something.
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thanks does anyone have more on this because I really want to cut it and gain speed but don't want to mess it up
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If you can take a look at the wire collors I THINK the '09 has 2 pink wires going to the box Either one of them can be cut to de-restrict
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Zombie
is there any pictures of this the show how to do this? I don't want to cut a wire and have it wrong
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also how will I know what cut to dowill the cdi look different?
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If it's just cutting a wire, make sure you cut it so it can be re-connected if necessary. I think Zombie is right about the 2 pink wires. The cdi's you cut into the unit don't have the 2 pink wires.
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alright nice how much is a de-restrict cdi and where can i buy one?
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so its for sure different then the old cdi right and there's no pictures on the internet to teach how to do it for the new ones right
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Here's a link on this forum of an '09 cdi. It did not have the green wire to cut inside the box. http://kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=1345.0. (http://kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=1345.0.) I think they determined it was already derestricted, not sure though, haven't read it all in awhile.
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This cdi may fit on the agility, not positive though. Try sending Dr. Moto a PM and ask. He gives a discount to forum members also!
http://enviromoto.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=5507526 (http://enviromoto.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=5507526)
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thank you have been a big help
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if they figured it was already de restricted what does that mean I have to do then because if its only going 36 i don't think it would be de restricted
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ncy cdi does not fit.its for ac fired the agility are DC fired. you need a top of the line cdi go to here, http://www.monstergy6.com/product_CDI.htm (http://www.monstergy6.com/product_CDI.htm) buy the DC (Yellow) one or the last one
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Thanks for the clarification Custom! I wasn't sure, but ran across it looking for something else.
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thank you guys so eithier two of these will work and get me more speed right?
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...in most cases that answer would be yes...if you have the correct cdi...
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Here's a link on this forum of an '09 cdi. It did not have the green wire to cut inside the box. http://kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=1345.0. (http://kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=1345.0.) I think they determined it was already derestricted, not sure though, haven't read it all in awhile.
..that was indeed a derestricted cdi...no cut necessary...
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..newguy, can you post a pic of your cdi?
..or at least tell us what color the leads coming out of the connector...
...there are different cdis in these scoots...i know of many ppl that have an 09 that have cut the cdi with success...
..it all depends on the cdi...it would be almost impossible to say for sure what you should do, without knowing what cdi you have...if it's like most, then you can indeed cut the cdi, and get another 5-10 mph...no need to buy anything...
peace
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Yeah so if there is two pink wires it is already de restricted right and if not I cut it like the pictures right or what?
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So I read this from wordslinger on a different post and both cdi's look the same to me how will I be able to tell the difference in the cdi's?
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Re: Kymco agility 50 07 de-restriction
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2010, 11:03:03 AM »
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...neither...you gotta do this...
..unless ur cdi is like on the bottom pic..
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http://kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=1639.0 (http://kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=1639.0)
here is the address on the pictures of the cdi's I can't tell any difference between the two and would like to know how you can tell?
thanks
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...the bottom pic of the three in that link has a sticker with a part number on it...that is a unrestricted cdi that was in an A50 of scootermaven's...
...what we would need to know, is the colors of the wires that are connected to your cdi...
..if you have no pink wires connected to your cdi,and your cdi does not have a label pasted to it, then most likely you have a stock, restricted cdi...
..if you have no pink wires, then you need only to notch the cdi, as in the upper two pics from that link, to de-restrict your cdi...
..if you have pink wires connected to your cdi, then clipping an external wire is required to de-restrict your cdi...
..below is a pic of my dealer-cut cdi...do your wires appear to be the same color as those??
..note that the red wire in the pic does not go to my cdi, that is my battery's hot wire...
..as you can see, cutting a small 1/4 inch notch in the edge of the cdi's casing will harm nothing, even if there is no internal wire there...
..however, if there is, then you have instant speed!!
peace
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thanks wordslinger so if there is two pink I cut one of the pink wires right? and it does matter which one I cut right?
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and one other thing the internal wire is green right?
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...i can't say from experience which of any pink wires you need to cut, and i'd have to defer an answer to one of the other guys...lol..
..the internal wire is very small, and i do believe i see green insulation where the dealer chopped mine...
..it could be possible that when you make the notch, that you don't really see the wire at all, until you kinda clean up the cut...
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thanks so if mine ends up with two pink wires can someone tell me which one to cut thanks
I hope I just need to cut the box it seems way less confusing
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From what I have read I don't think it matters what pink wire you cut...
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thanks so if mine ends up with two pink wires can someone tell me which one to cut thanks
I hope I just need to cut the box it seems way less confusing
..take about 5 minutes...either way...and it's waaaay worth it!!
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thanks still will look around forsure on which to cut hope it does matter because don't want to wreck anything
How much speed will i gain is it a lot?
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...you'll get 5-maybe 10 mph....
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thanks still will look around forsure on which to cut hope it does matter because don't want to wreck anything
How much speed will i gain is it a lot?
..you won't hurt the cdi by notching it....
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Is obvious once you do it, I mean can you for sure tell the speed difference?
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...oh yeah...you'll know!!! :o
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nice what will the top speed most likely be :)
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...top speed is relevant to many conditions...flat land wth no wind @ 42mph....with cdi and variator de-restricted...
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wordslinger or anyone what is the variator and how do I de restrict it ?
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and do I have to buy any parts to do this?
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Here's a utube link that might help! Kymco Super 9 AC Variator and rollers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAcsjMdJfGs#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
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I didn't view that vid until After I posted it. I have to say that guy is an IDIOT! Sorry dude I don't mean personal wise, I mean advise wise. At least you can see how it comes apart, and what it is. There are much better utube vids to watch. Look around.
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so watching this do I need to change the boss or rollars on the variators and where do I get theses parts?
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I think these guys sell a derestricted boss. http://www.scootertherapy.com/bosspage.html (http://www.scootertherapy.com/bosspage.html) The rollers are standard 16mm X 13mm available all over online. I've had good luck with the Dr. Pulley sliders. You probably want some somewhere between 4.5g and 5g.
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so watching this do I need to change the boss or rollars on the variators and where do I get theses parts?
..if ur scoot has the stock rollers, you will still get decent acceleration, and top out around 42...
..forquicker takeoff, you can change the rollers out for lighter ones..
..the stock rollers are 6 grams...i'm currently runing 4.7 gr...
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With the boss replacement can anyone give me site on where to buy one I can't seem to find one, and which overall gets you more speed the boss replaced or CDI cut? and if both are done how much speed will I get?
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Are you an attorney? Same ?'s just in different ways. I think your boss has a washer that has to be removed. Slinger knows that one. top end will be close to 50mph. The cdi & washer are there to reduce the top speed for legal reasons, and nothing else. 50cc=35mph by law in the US. Take those limits away, and you have a scoot that is the same as most other regions in the world. Try looking thru Utube vids. They can show you the mechanics of how it all works. Don't listen too much, just watch.
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thanks i will watch the youtude videos you guys have been a great help thanks
the last thing I just want to know if anyone knows is if I need to buy a new boss or can I just take off a washer
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Slinger will see this and get back w/ you. I'm not trying to chase you off Bro! There is a ton of free info. on those Utube sites. In fact if you find something that helps you, please post it here so that you can in turn help someone else. Check out that moi moi pallalo boy stuff while your browsing utube. Funny as Heck.
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thanks i will watch the youtude videos you guys have been a great help thanks
the last thing I just want to know if anyone knows is if I need to buy a new boss or can I just take off a washer
..if there is a washer on the boss, remove it...
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thanks guys so do guys both have these two things de setricted on your scooters?
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It may sound like a lot of work, but it's really not! You may need an impact wrench though. The easiest way to tell if your variator is restricted, by either boss length or washer, is to remove it. If there is a washer between the two halves, remove it. If the boss is restricting it the two halves will not come completely together and you will need to buy a "derestricted" one. The main thing you are looking for is that the two halves will come completely together, allowing the belt to ride all the way to the top.
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if I need to buy a new one won't the boss be thicker at the end or just longer?
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http://www.gusdeluxe.info/canon2.jpg (http://www.gusdeluxe.info/canon2.jpg)
This is a picture of both if its restricted it will look like the one on the left correct and I will have to buy a new one and if it just has a washer just remove it right?
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I'm not positive if the boss will be thicker or just longer. If you pull the variator off, put it all back together without the rollers just in your hands and set it on a table with the outside facing down. The ramp plate the roller run on should not push up past the channels it runs on. If there is a washer between the halves remove it. If you look at it like, you want the halves to come together till the small centers touch, which forces the belt up the face as high as it will go, it should be easy to determine if there is something preventing that from happening.