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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: PaulF on August 27, 2016, 11:23:54 AM
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Whilst I love my Kymco LIKE a BMW C650 Sport would be my dream scooter to own. Well out of my price range at present.
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+1 on that c650 and id like to add its amazing akrapovic you can get with it!!
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i’ll second that, if money were no object. It’s a sweet bike.
- Wolf
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The beamer looks nice but the Yamaha T max aint bad either.
To stay faithful to the brand the K50 from Kymco looks very promising too...
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The beamer looks nice but the Yamaha T max aint bad either.
To stay faithful to the brand the K50 from Kymco looks very promising too...
TMax.
If the K50 comes as is its a winner for me.
AMAC
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I wish someone would sell a small 155cc or so sporty scooter in the US that would top out at around 65-70, have good brakes and suspension, a decent size gas tank and good gas mileage. It would also help if I fit on it and it looked good. I know I'm asking a lot but I'm guessing that there are a few scooters that would work for me sold overseas. A movie 150 with fuel injection and a 65 MPH top speed would be pretty close to what I want. Right now the two scooters at the top of my list to replace my Super 8 are the Genuine Hooligan and Yamaha Smax. However, neither are exactly what I want. I planning on keeping the Super 8 at least another year.
I already have a maxi scooter (Majesty) with only 8500 miles on it. When I get it up to around 50,000 I'll think about replacing it.
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I wish someone would sell a small 155cc or so sporty scooter in the US that would top out at around 65-70, have good brakes and suspension, a decent size gas tank and good gas mileage. It would also help if I fit on it and it looked good. I know I'm asking a lot but I'm guessing that there are a few scooters that would work for me sold overseas. A movie 150 with fuel injection and a 65 MPH top speed would be pretty close to what I want. Right now the two scooters at the top of my list to replace my Super 8 are the Genuine Hooligan and Yamaha Smax. However, neither are exactly what I want. I planning on keeping the Super 8 at least another year.
I already have a maxi scooter (Majesty) with only 8500 miles on it. When I get it up to around 50,000 I'll think about replacing it.
What about the Hond PCX 150 http://powersports.honda.com/2016/pcx.aspx (http://powersports.honda.com/2016/pcx.aspx)
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What about the Hond PCX 150 http://powersports.honda.com/2016/pcx.aspx (http://powersports.honda.com/2016/pcx.aspx)
It feels weird when I sit on it and I hate linked brakes. It does have a great powertrain. Also, the local Honda dealer sucks. The local Yamaha/Genuine dealer is great. I haven't totally ruled out the PCX but it's not likely. Perhaps if they add ABS I could live with the linked brakes.
Also, like my Super 8 the PCX has unusual sized tires limiting the choice of tires available here in the US. I also prefer a flat floor because I use it all the time to carry stuff.
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I'll take whatever Honda replaces the SilverWing with.
If they do not ....I'll take a white or red SH300i Honda....and go quietly into the Home a couple decades from now.
Stig
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Klaviator, they're no longer sold in the US or Canada, but if you can find one, look at the yager GT 200i. It's actually a 180 cc, but can go 70, 70 mpg with great storage and handling.
- Wolf
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It feels weird when I sit on it and I hate linked brakes. It does have a great powertrain. Also, the local Honda dealer sucks. The local Yamaha/Genuine dealer is great. I haven't totally ruled out the PCX but it's not likely. Perhaps if they add ABS I could live with the linked brakes.
Also, like my Super 8 the PCX has unusual sized tires limiting the choice of tires available here in the US. I also prefer a flat floor because I use it all the time to carry stuff.
What do the linked brakes do or don't do that put you off it. I sat on a PCX at a Honda dealer in town and like it but maybe my height and weight suit it better than yours. I thought that the view from the mirrors was really good.
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What do the linked brakes do or don't do that put you off it. I sat on a PCX at a Honda dealer in town and like it but maybe my height and weight suit it better than yours. I thought that the view from the mirrors was really good.
There are several types of linked brakes but the most common is where the rear brake lever is also linked to the front brakes. This is what is on the PCX and most Honda scooters. This system is designed to help out those riders who don't know how to use their brakes. It also takes away some of the riders control over the brakes. On dry pavement it's no big deal and I doubt most people would even notice the brakes are linked. On a slippery surface it's dangerous as you really can't control how much braking is going to each wheel and can't use only the rear brake if that's what you want to do. You will not find this system on any motorcycle designed to go off road for this reason. (that I know of). Basically I consider this "dumbing down" the braking system. There is no real benefit to linked brakes for an experienced rider, unlike ABS. While I could learn to live with it I really don't want to. I put 72,000 miles on a motorcycle with linked brakes. I loved the bike but hated the brakes. I decided never again. It's one of my pet peeves.
As far as I know, no Kymco Scooters have linked brakes.
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It feels weird when I sit on it and I hate linked brakes. It does have a great powertrain. Also, the local Honda dealer sucks. The local Yamaha/Genuine dealer is great. I haven't totally ruled out the PCX but it's not likely. Perhaps if they add ABS I could live with the linked brakes.
Also, like my Super 8 the PCX has unusual sized tires limiting the choice of tires available here in the US. I also prefer a flat floor because I use it all the time to carry stuff.
Kinda sounds like you're describing the Yamaha SMAX to a greater extent.
Personally though I'd prefer more big wheel scoots, like maybe the yamaha Xcenter, but since they don't seem to do well in this country I doubt we'll see it.
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I'll take my Movie 150 but replace the carbureted 149cc engine and replace it with an injected 200-250cc engine to make a true small sporty scooter. Or ill take a RacingKing 180 and an Xciting 500Ri.
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There are several types of linked brakes but the most common is where the rear brake lever is also linked to the front brakes. This is what is on the PCX and most Honda scooters. This system is designed to help out those riders who don't know how to use their brakes. It also takes away some of the riders control over the brakes. On dry pavement it's no big deal and I doubt most people would even notice the brakes are linked. On a slippery surface it's dangerous as you really can't control how much braking is going to each wheel and can't use only the rear brake if that's what you want to do. You will not find this system on any motorcycle designed to go off road for this reason. (that I know of). Basically I consider this "dumbing down" the braking system. There is no real benefit to linked brakes for an experienced rider, unlike ABS. While I could learn to live with it I really don't want to. I put 72,000 miles on a motorcycle with linked brakes. I loved the bike but hated the brakes. I decided never again. It's one of my pet peeves.
As far as I know, no Kymco Scooters have linked brakes.
Thank you, wasn't aware of that and glad I know now as the PCX was on my list of scooters that I would buy.
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The newer Big Burgman's nice if you're looking at maxi's. capable of 100 mph + and still gets 55-60 mpg (per fuelly).
Not both at the same time of course.
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Thank you, wasn't aware of that and glad I know now as the PCX was on my list of scooters that I would buy.
If you use your brakes the same way all the time, the linked brakes won't really make any difference for you. If you adjust your braking depending on the conditions then linked brakes could be an issue. Many PCX owners really like the brakes. The PCX does have a lot of nice features. I think the combination of engine performance and fuel economy is about the best out there.
I tend to do things with my scooters that many riders don't like ride off road or even on snow/ice. I ride aggressively and demand a lot from my brakes. For me linked brakes would be a big issue. For many riders they aren't.
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I wish Honda would bring their integra scooter to the US... Its looks very nice and has a lot of power
http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/scooter/Integra-2016/overview.html (http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/scooter/Integra-2016/overview.html)
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There are several types of linked brakes but the most common is where the rear brake lever is also linked to the front brakes. This is what is on the PCX and most Honda scooters. This system is designed to help out those riders who don't know how to use their brakes. It also takes away some of the riders control over the brakes. On dry pavement it's no big deal and I doubt most people would even notice the brakes are linked. On a slippery surface it's dangerous as you really can't control how much braking is going to each wheel and can't use only the rear brake if that's what you want to do. You will not find this system on any motorcycle designed to go off road for this reason. (that I know of). Basically I consider this "dumbing down" the braking system. There is no real benefit to linked brakes for an experienced rider, unlike ABS. While I could learn to live with it I really don't want to. I put 72,000 miles on a motorcycle with linked brakes. I loved the bike but hated the brakes. I decided never again. It's one of my pet peeves.
As far as I know, no Kymco Scooters have linked brakes.
The 2009 Xciting that I rode had linked brakes. I don't know if the current abs equipped models have
Them, but I know the non abs did. Their linked brakes were not even noticeable even on loose surfaces because they had a valve that didn't engage the front until the rear brakes were pressed pretty hard. And they actually applied a different set of front pads. I think I liked that system best.
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My dream scooter hasn't been made yet. It's science fiction. It's one that deploys air bags to prevent one's leg from being severed when side swiping a street sign. Lol
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The 2009 Xciting that I rode had linked brakes. I don't know if the current abs equipped models have
Them, but I know the non abs did. Their linked brakes were not even noticeable even on loose surfaces because they had a valve that didn't engage the front until the rear brakes were pressed pretty hard. And they actually applied a different set of front pads. I think I liked that system best.
The Piaggio BV350 has a system like that. The rear only actuates the front in heavy braking. I think the PCX is linked all the time. Someone on another forum who had a BV350 and his wife had a PCX commented that the linked brakes on the PCX were far more intrusive than on the BV350. The thing is that there are all kinds of variations of linked brakes out there but I'll bet that the majority of riders have no clue of the features of the system on the bike they are riding.
Harleys new linked brakes don't link if you hit the brakes below 25MPH. Some bikes are linked front to rear instead of rear to front and some are completely linked both ways with a complex set of valves to control the proportion. Linked brakes add cost and complexity to the system and often make the system a nightmare to bleed. Unlike ABS, linked brakes don't provide any anti skid protection.
one of the reasons I hate linked brakes is that when braking you have normally don't know how much of the braking is being done by each wheel. With a normal syystem you don't know exactly either but you can try stopping with just the front brake and get a feel for what hand pressure gives a certain amount of braking and then do the same with the rear. Or if braking with just the front and the adding some rear brake, all that additional braking comes from the rear.
While linked brakes may help beginners it will also make it more difficult for those beginners to learn how to brake properly.
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My dream scooter hasn't been made yet. It's science fiction. It's one that deploys air bags to prevent one's leg from being severed when side swiping a street sign. Lol
I usually try to avoid street signs, & all three available scoots have a legshield to take that blow anyway.
But if you're talking scifi my dream is electric or more advanced power plant, cruise range effectively infinite (solar recharge maybe?) and no wheels, just antigravity so none of those tire issues :)
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I wish Honda would bring their integra scooter to the US... Its looks very nice and has a lot of power
http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/scooter/Integra-2016/overview.html (http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/scooter/Integra-2016/overview.html)
That looks great.
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I usually try to avoid street signs, & all three available scoots have a legshield to take that blow anyway.
But if you're talking scifi my dream is electric or more advanced power plant, cruise range effectively infinite (solar recharge maybe?) and no wheels, just antigravity so none of those tire issues :)
Well, I was just trying to sneak a passive aggressive pity part in when I mentioned the leg protecting air bag since that's what severed my left leg. Lol.
I like your imagination though. I'm already imagining the front wind screen doubling as solar panels. Hmmmm....
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2016 Honda Adv scooter
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2016 Honda Adv scooter
Yep. The Integra with different clothing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpcHqJLuZHA
AMAC