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Title: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: Gwhizz on August 16, 2018, 06:54:00 AM
Hi all,
New to the forum, hoping someone can help.  ;)
I've got a new Agility City 16+ 50i, 2018 model and I can't find any info about it on the internet anywhere. Plus, no technical images/info in the manual.
My problem? It's slow as hell!  :( Has anyone else got one, and had experience with getting it to go a bit faster – perhaps by replacing the CDI?
Thanks,
/GWHIZZ
Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: Viper254 on August 20, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
I think there's another post somewhere on the forum with quite a bit of detail about somebody who's having similar problems. If I can find it i'll get the link.
Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on August 20, 2018, 11:01:47 AM
Have you had a talk with your dealer about this?
Most likely it is running fine.....as built.
Your dealer should have some ideas on getting more speed from this scooter.
BTW - when looking at this scooter before the purchase, what did they tell you about its performance?

Stig
Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: big blue on August 20, 2018, 04:24:00 PM
A 50cc 4 stroke scoot is NEVER going to have the grunt of a 2 stroke one.  Better gas mileage and longevity as well a cleaner operation is the reason that these now exist. Find out if the variator is restricted it could be capable of a little more speed if the restriction is removed.
Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: KymcoBDA on August 20, 2018, 10:44:17 PM
Hi all,
New to the forum, hoping someone can help.  ;)
I've got a new Agility City 16+ 50i, 2018 model and I can't find any info about it on the internet anywhere. Plus, no technical images/info in the manual.
My problem? It's slow as hell!  :( Has anyone else got one, and had experience with getting it to go a bit faster – perhaps by replacing the CDI?
Thanks,
/GWHIZZ
There should be a purple wire with a pink tracer that loops at the CDI. Cut it to derestrict.


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Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: Gwhizz on August 23, 2018, 11:09:03 AM
Have you had a talk with your dealer about this?
Most likely it is running fine.....as built.
Your dealer should have some ideas on getting more speed from this scooter.
BTW - when looking at this scooter before the purchase, what did they tell you about its performance?

Stig

They spoke mostly about its reliability (especially when starting) and for me that was a key point as I use the bike for commuting into the city. HOWEVER, I did expect more performance.

I test-rode the older Agility City model before purchase (they didn't have a test-ride model on the floor for the 16+) and this got speeds up to 55kph. Granted, this could've been a "super-tuned" model from the dealer – BUT when I drove my 16+ home for the first time I was reaching about 53kph downhill. After about 300km it started slowing dramatically, barely doing 45kph. I took it in for the first "tightening" service at 500km and mentioned the problem. They said afterwards everything looked fine, and the bike did pick up some speed, but has never exceeded 50kph since.

Point it, the bike IS DEFINITELY capable of more speed! So what could be causing this fluctuation in performance over time? I'm tempted to go back to the dealer, but I know I'll just get the stock response: "it's a 45kph EU moped, so if it goes faster without being tuned then lucky you!"
Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: Gwhizz on August 23, 2018, 11:13:05 AM
There should be a purple wire with a pink tracer that loops at the CDI. Cut it to derestrict.


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Thanks, KYMCOBDA. But where is the CDI on this bike?? I haven't managed to locate it…
Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: KymcoBDA on August 23, 2018, 11:27:03 AM
Thanks, KYMCOBDA. But where is the CDI on this bike?? I haven't managed to locate it…
It should be right next to the battery, under the seat.


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Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: Gwhizz on August 24, 2018, 08:14:50 AM
It should be right next to the battery, under the seat.


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The attached pic shows the battery compartment. No CDI to be seen! But there are a bunch of loose wires there – not connected to anything! Any idea what these could be for??
Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: Gwhizz on September 14, 2018, 09:57:56 AM
UPDATE for anyone following this topic!! Performance on the bike has continued to drop, so that it now won't even get to 45kph unless going downhill for an extended period of time. I have been in contact with the Kymco importer here in Sweden and they have acknowledged that there is a problem and I'm not the first to experience it with this model. They are contacting Kymco for a solution. Holding thumbs it'll be resolved quickly!
Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: tony-iow on September 21, 2018, 05:48:28 PM
cdi behind battery .you need to remove battery box as its fix to back of box...
Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: CROSSBOLT on September 23, 2018, 06:40:14 PM
That three conductor black plug is for the Kymco analyzer tool on all the EFI engines. Is your 50 cc fuel injected? Do NOT go cutting any wires until you get it established what that black plug is for!
Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: Gwhizz on September 24, 2018, 04:00:08 PM
That three conductor black plug is for the Kymco analyzer tool on all the EFI engines. Is your 50 cc fuel injected? Do NOT go cutting any wires until you get it established what that black plug is for!
Hi Karl, yes it's fuel injected. I'm starting to think it was a big mistake going that route! But don't worry, I'm not going to try and do any modifications myself. My engine performance has continued to drop, to the point that the bike barely does 45kph going downhill. Kymco are aware there is an issue with this model, so it's their problem to sort out now. It's just €&%#!% annoying!  >:(
Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: CROSSBOLT on September 24, 2018, 05:57:35 PM
EFI should be a huge improvement over the traditional carb especially for starting. The Agility 50 was notorious for lousy cold weather starts! Sounds like your dealer has a problem to solve for you. Let us know how that goes, please.
Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: bullpen on July 06, 2021, 07:48:48 AM
BUMP!

Hi Gwhizz. I'm experiencing the same problem (with a 2020 fuel injected Super 8), its going slower and slower and now barely makes 45km/h unless good dowhill. Read that you where in contact with the importer in Sweden (i'm also located in Sweden), did you get any answers or solution to your problem?
Title: Re: CDI for new Agility City 16+ 50i
Post by: Gwhizz on July 10, 2021, 09:03:46 AM
@bullpen. Been ages since this topic came up! I can't remember exactly what the issue was, but according to the Stockholm Köpenscooter mechanic it was that the factory had installed the incorrect gear on the bike. They ordered a replacement part which took weeks to arrive and after that I was back up to speed - max 54-55kph though if I recall. AND THEN one year later....... the bike was stolen by some scumbags from Jakobsberg Centrum. Was found trashed in nearby woods the day after. Bought another Kymco, believe it or not! (Sucker for punishment!) It's a Like 50 and no issues at all, goes great and maxes out around 60kph.

Did you buy from Köpenscooter (Mipecorp)? They should definitely be able to fix it for you, most likely the same issue I had.