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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Agility 125 => Topic started by: adefesio on October 06, 2018, 06:32:11 PM

Title: the scooter doesn't start
Post by: adefesio on October 06, 2018, 06:32:11 PM: when i press the ignition key it doesn't start and doesn't make a sound. If i try 5 or 6 times it finally start. what can be?
Title: Re: the scooter doesn't start
Post by: tortoise on October 06, 2018, 07:20:43 PM: Have you tested battery cranking volts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw3ikMEGh74&feature=youtu.be&t=2m6s)?

If you lack the aptitude to read a wiring diagram, and perform some switch-circuit continuity testing with a multi-meter, probably should let a mechanic troubleshoot it.
Title: Re: the scooter doesn't start
Post by: KymcoBDA on October 07, 2018, 06:20:01 PM: Quote from: adefesio on October 06, 2018, 06:32:11 PM
when i press the ignition key it doesn't start and doesn't make a sound. If i try 5 or 6 times it finally start. what can be?
Does the brake light come on && stay on when you pull the levers in?

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Title: Re: the scooter doesn't start
Post by: hypophthalmus on October 07, 2018, 06:38:02 PM: Try jumping the solenoid with a screwdriver. If it starts readily, either the solenoid is bad or one of the safety switches (kickstand, brake) have bad connection.

The fact that it eventually starts makes me think the solenoid is most likely stuck. It can also stick open leaving the starter running forever until you disconnect the battery.
Title: Re: the scooter doesn't start
Post by: jeeves on October 07, 2018, 07:30:49 PM: Agility 125 doesn't have a safety switch on the kickstand. As soon as you put the scoot upright the kickstand folds in.

I would start with checking the brake switch contacts first, then starter button.
Does it refuse to start if either of the brakes are applied?
Title: Re: the scooter doesn't start
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on October 07, 2018, 07:36:59 PM: If the brake light works when lever pulled---- my $2 is on the battery.
Weak battery, or dirty/loose posts.
Stig
Title: Re: the scooter doesn't start
Post by: adefesio on October 09, 2018, 08:25:32 PM: Quote from: hypophthalmus on October 07, 2018, 06:38:02 PM
Try jumping the solenoid with a screwdriver. If it starts readily, either the solenoid is bad or one of the safety switches (kickstand, brake) have bad connection.

The fact that it eventually starts makes me think the solenoid is most likely stuck. It can also stick open leaving the starter running forever until you disconnect the battery.

where is placed the solenoid?
i have seen three possible, in the manual:
-pulser coil
-ignition coil
-starter relay
which one is the solenoid?
Title: Re: the scooter doesn't start
Post by: adefesio on October 09, 2018, 08:26:22 PM: Quote from: adefesio on October 09, 2018, 08:25:32 PM
where is placed the solenoid?
i have seen three possible, in the manual:
-pulser coil
-ignition coil
-starter relay
which one is the solenoid?
i suspect that is the "starter relay"; because of this scheme.
Title: Re: the scooter doesn't start
Post by: hypophthalmus on October 09, 2018, 09:28:24 PM: Starter relay is correct.
Title: Re: the scooter doesn't start
Post by: scooterfan on December 08, 2018, 05:17:19 PM: Quote from: adefesio on October 09, 2018, 08:26:22 PM
i suspect that is the "starter relay"; because of this scheme.

Correct - unfortunately the manual refer to the starter solenoid as a â€œrelayâ€.
The scooter does not have a â€œrelayâ€.

The solenoid is located close to the fuel outlet at the tank - right next to the ignition coil.