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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kansas kymco on August 04, 2020, 08:20:43 AM
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According to KS law anything larger the 49cc is classified as a motorcycle. How about your state and displacement classification?
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In Finland 50 cc can do 45 kmh, if you pimp it and it does 65 kmh or more it is a motorcycle, they will give you fine, you must pay motorcycle tax, and you must have license to drive a motorcycle. Still, pimping is common among youngsters, lets say expensive hobby.
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In Finland 50 cc can do 45 kmh, if you pimp it and it does 65 kmh or more it is a motorcycle, they will give you fine, you must pay motorcycle tax, and you must have license to drive a motorcycle. Still, pimping is common among youngsters, lets say expensive hobby.
Around here you would never get caught, police don't care as long as your not having traffic violations. It's the tag dept and insurance where you get dinged for over 49cc.
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Same here in Pennsylvania. Anything under 50cc is considered a moped. Over 50cc is a motorcycle. And you need a motorcycle license and tags and insurance.
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Iowa is the same. 49cc and under is a moped and you can be 14 to ride it (although you must attach a bright orange flag to the back of the scoot if you're under 16 and it must extend 5 ft above the ground).
50cc and above requires a full motorcycle license.
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Ahhh Yup..
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Here in Tennessee above 49cc requires a scooter license and above 125 requires a motorcycle license. I used my Agility 125 for the motorcycle license test so I could ride other bikes.
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Here in Tennessee above 49cc requires a scooter license and above 125 requires a motorcycle license. I used my Agility 125 for the motorcycle license test so I could ride other bikes.
That sounds good then I thought about it and not a lot of selection of scooters between 50cc and 125cc. Does anyone make a scooter that falls into that category ?
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in NH anything 49c or smaller, can get a "moped" plate, only a regular drivers license is needed, you must sign an affidavit that you will not exceed 30mph :o over 49cc or faster than 30mph, requires a motorcycle endorsement on your license, and gets a motorcycle plate
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In Croatia scooter/motorcycle driving permits have 4 categories.
AM - scooters/mopeds up to 50ccm
A1 - up to 125ccm and max 11kw
A2 - max power 35kw
A - unlimited power, no restrictions, but must be at least 24 years old to get it, or have an A2 permit for at least 2 years.
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Above 50cc or capable of more than 30mph (in the flats I'm assuming) is considered a motorcycle in WA.
A few shades and grades, & I ain't going to bring up the "mopeds" that exceed 30 stock to WA since they seem to kinda fly under the radar.
So pretty similar to other states I've checked on that one.
The only notable exception that I know of these days is MI who I believe allows 100cc or lower...Kinda shocked me when I heard of it, but I guess somebody got smart & updated a law that was designed when "Mopeds" were predominantly 2 strokes...4T 50cc bikes .. are a bit scary slow IMHO
According to KS law anything larger the 49cc is classified as a motorcycle. How about your state and displacement classification?
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That sounds good then I thought about it and not a lot of selection of scooters between 50cc and 125cc. Does anyone make a scooter that falls into that category ?
I have a Kymco Sento 100cc which uses the Kawasaki ATV engine. It's a real rocket!
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In Croatia scooter/motorcycle driving permits have 4 categories.
AM - scooters/mopeds up to 50ccm
A1 - up to 125ccm and max 11kw
A2 - max power 35kw
A - unlimited power, no restrictions, but must be at least 24 years old to get it, or have an A2 permit for at least 2 years.
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Think that applies EU-wide? Certainly looks familiar to UK rules. Gone are the days when you could ride your 50cc ‘ped on a car licence!
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Think that applies EU-wide? Certainly looks familiar to UK rules. Gone are the days when you could ride your 50cc ‘ped on a car licence!
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That is still possible here.
Evebody that gets a car driving license can also drive mopeds and scooters up to 50ccm.
I know that a few EU and at least 1 non EU country allows riding up to 125ccm with a car licence.
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In Finland, when you are born before year 1985, you can ride a moped/scooter (50 cc) without any kind of lisence, youngsters after 1985 need to graduate a moped driving license. Earliest at the age of fifteen (15).
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In Finland, when you are born before year 1985, you can ride a moped/scooter (50 cc) without any kind of lisence, youngsters after 1985 need to graduate a moped driving license. Earliest at the age of fifteen (15).
Age limit here in the UK is 16 for 50cc and 17 for everything else. Back in the day, when I was learning, you were OK up to 250cc at 16... After the Bantam, I graduated to a BSA C15 at 17!
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Think that applies EU-wide? Certainly looks familiar to UK rules. Gone are the days when you could ride your 50cc ‘ped on a car licence!
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So there's a break - I think those who passed their car test before 2001 have moped entitlement. Anybody after 2001 needs to take a CBT to "activate" their category P for moped (under 30mph) on their car license.
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Yep, I was aware of that, just couldn't recall when the cutoff was - presumably back when the two-part test was introduced?
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Age limit here in the UK is 16 for 50cc and 17 for everything else. Back in the day, when I was learning, you were OK up to 250cc at 16... After the Bantam, I graduated to a BSA C15 at 17!
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I got my motorcycle license in 2003, and at the time there was only 1 category (A).
I took the riding course and exam on a Vespa 200ccm, and after passing it I could have ridden a CBR900RR or anything else if I wanted, but luckily couldn't afford something like that.
Good thing they split it into multiple categories.
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Here in Ontario all scooters are considered motorcycles, they just get categorized as either Limited Speed(50cc and Under), Small displacement (51-250cc) to just a motorcycle(anything over 251cc)
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Here in Ontario all scooters are considered motorcycles, they just get categorized as either Limited Speed(50cc and Under), Small displacement (51-250cc) to just a motorcycle(anything over 251cc)
So where does the 49cc scooters fall into? Just curious what part of Ontario your from? I had family in Northwestern Ontario Sioux Lookout and some around Long point and Simcoe by Toronto. Forgot a Aunt that lived in Sue Saint Marie Ontario.
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K.K I live in the farthest North West portion of the GTA just north of Georgetown.
49cc scooters are considered Limited Speed Motorcycles(not able to go faster then 75KPH-46MPH) as they fall under 51cc.
In Ontario to drive any scooter-motorcycle with an engine greater then 51cc requires you to have a full Motorcycle licence(M) where as anything with an engine size smaller then 51cc it`s just an ML(motorcycle Limited speed). But yo get your full M it requires you to drive on a 400 series Highway at speeds of excess of 100KPH-60MPH which no 4T 51-110cc scooter will attain ;)
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Got my "motorcycle endorsement" by passing the road and written test while taking the 2 day motorcycle safety course. Son and I took it together at a nearby Air Guard airfield. We put something like 22 miles on our course-supplied motorcycles on that runway, over the 2 days.
Our vehicle was inspected by MP 's each time we needed to go in the gate. We had to stand in a glass booth....facing away from their inspection procedures.
Very good course taught by a couple of million mile Goldwing riders.
Stig
I think even 50cc riders need a motorcycle endorsement in Ohio