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Title: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: stuo on November 14, 2021, 07:35:16 PM
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Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: CROSSBOLT on November 14, 2021, 07:48:59 PM
Very revealing! By ignorant default, Sta-bil has been in use here. Equipment that missed the Sta-bil treated gas always (pronounced ALWAYS!) required fuel system/carb/injector cleaning.
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on November 14, 2021, 07:57:14 PM
Very revealing! By ignorant default, Sta-bil has been in use here. Equipment that missed the Sta-bil treated gas always (pronounced ALWAYS!) required fuel system/carb/injector cleaning.
Cross....
Can you summarize it for me?
Phone battery is dying
So Stabile or mayonnaise....which?
Thanks much
Tom
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: rjs987 on November 14, 2021, 08:02:10 PM
Since I ride all year, at least every month of the year, I don't worry much about the gas in my bike.
But I have had a snow thrower and a lawn mower end up with a gummed up carb many many years ago.
I've since used Sta-Bil in anything that sits for more than a month without burning fuel and have had Zero/None/Nada issues yet. And that is even though there is e10 in the tanks all my gas powered lawn or snow equipment starts right up at the beginning of their respective seasons without even a cough or excessive attempts to get them started.
Historical experiential evidence ensures continued use of Sta-Bil for the foreseeable future.


If I see that I won't be riding the bike for a month or more I'll put in some Sta-Bil there also just to hold it over until the next ride. If I don't ride within a month that means it will be somewhat longer before I burn off enough of the tank to fill it again with fresh so...
Modern fuels can usually last a few months without any special treatment. Sometimes longer.


Oh, and keep in mind that any water absorption tests that I've seen are with an open container. That is unrealistic. Your fuel system should be a sealed system so excessive moisture should not be an issue in the first place. And also ethanol does absorb moisture, and as this video indicates will hold moisture in suspension as long as it isn't excessive. That means any moisture being held will flow out through the system as the fuel is burned. If moisture IS excessive then you would be looking at much bigger problems with your fuel system than just a little extra water in the tank.


I'll bet I can make flying in an airplane look at least 5 times more dangerous than riding a motorcycle!  :o
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: mrmike on November 14, 2021, 08:17:35 PM
  Living in Syracuse, NY we usually get winter weather from December to March (at least). I have a 5 gallon can I use for my garden tractor, snow thrower, and mowers. For my scooter, I usually fill it from a smaller 3 gallon container. I start adding Sta-Bil (1oz to 2 1/2 gallons) starting in September whenever I fill these cans. That way I have good treated gasoline in my equipment when it is stored. So far everything has been starting right up when springtime rolls around. No complaints at all about Sta-Bil from me!
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: randyo on November 14, 2021, 11:50:25 PM

Can you summarize it for me?

I used to summerize my car, never drove it from April to november. always on the bike, did not winterize my bike, cause I try to ride at least once a week, and occasionally in a blizzard so the neighbors have something to talk about 


oh, you mean summary, doh! Stabil is the only one that really works and with the exception of being an antioxidant (K-100 is best) Stabil is best at all other testing
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: rjs987 on November 15, 2021, 12:07:26 AM
IOW
K-100 is best at one thing. And Sta-Bil is best at everything else.
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: Ex-KLR on November 15, 2021, 12:57:49 AM
I use a combination of marine (360)  Sta-Bil and Seafoam in everything but my automobiles.  Better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on November 15, 2021, 01:06:33 AM
I wonder if any additive is necessary if you simply stick to Top Tier fuels?
Stig
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: rjs987 on November 15, 2021, 03:22:42 AM
I wonder if any additive is necessary if you simply stick to Top Tier fuels?
Stig


I would think for one or two months I wouldn't worry with Top Tier fuels. That's actually all I use unless I'm on the road traveling and then I take what I find.
If the fuel is going to sit in the tank for three or four months than I wouldn't chance it. Put the stuff in there and run it through the fuel lines. My wife's Metropolitan and my lawn tractor and lawn mower sit for at least 4 months, maybe a little longer, without being started so I use it in them. Top Tier fuel in those. Also, my big 2 stage snow thrower sits for 8-9 months at least without running so definitely use Sta-Bil in that. No issues starting any of those when needed.
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: Neil955i on November 16, 2021, 01:42:31 PM
IOW
K-100 is best at one thing. And Sta-Bil is best at everything else.

IOW?  Isle of Wight?  How did that slip in here?  (One for the readers this side of the Atlantic!)
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: rjs987 on November 16, 2021, 03:39:00 PM
IOW?  Isle of Wight?  How did that slip in here?  (One for the readers this side of the Atlantic!)


In Other Words...


Gotta think international.
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on November 16, 2021, 04:47:45 PM
IOW?  Isle of Wight?  How did that slip in here?  (One for the readers this side of the Atlantic!)
The French refer to the U.K. as being located in the Gulf of Normandy..
Stig
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: randyo on November 16, 2021, 04:55:12 PM
what do I use more than Stabil ? I use Heet in the yellow bottle, the isopropyl  formula, much better at making water burn than methanol, and it will melt water that has already frozen, methanol doesn't
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: Iahawk on November 16, 2021, 08:08:07 PM
Every summer we can rent a cottage
In the Isle of Wright, if it’s not too dear…
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: Neil955i on November 17, 2021, 12:11:47 PM
The French refer to the U.K. as being located in the Gulf of Normandy..
Stig

Just like the way they mistake the English Channel as La Manche!
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: Neil955i on November 17, 2021, 12:13:25 PM
Every summer we can rent a cottage
In the Isle of Wright, if it’s not too dear…

Now I'm guessing that's a line or two from a song?  Maybe them pesky Beatles?  Yes, just pulled it up, "When I'm 64"?
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: Ruffus on November 17, 2021, 12:18:02 PM
Maybe more correct would  be:
"Mor Breizh or Mor Bretannek"
Title: Re: Fuel stabilizer: yes or no?
Post by: Neil955i on November 17, 2021, 03:56:17 PM
Maybe more correct would  be:
"Mor Breizh or Mor Bretannek"

:)