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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Neil955i on July 11, 2022, 07:41:45 AM
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So having mulled over the relatively minuscule price difference (<£200 here in the UK), between the Kymco DTX360 and Honda's X-ADV 350, I've decided to ride over to my local Honda dealer this morning and see what numbers they can come up with to tempt me.
Spoiler alert, I'm seriously considering trading in my Triumph if that makes the figures stack up better! The thinking here being the lack of miles I'm now doing on that bike, it's a crime for it to sit languishing in the garage. Far better it go to an owner who is actually going to use it. If it goes I'll be sad, but to quote someone or other, "them's the breaks!"
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Well that was a number I wasn't expecting! 6+ months before they expect to get one! Had a long chat with Karl the Sales guy and Roger the owner during which they admitted that after a 50+ year relationship with Honda they're ready to throw in the towel. Seems they can't get anywhere near the numbers of machines they are ordering so today when I visited, the showroom was stuffed with (readily available) Royal Enfields, Benellis, Sym and Royal Alloy machines. Have Honda lost the plot? Shame because I really liked the look and specs on the X-ADV.
So where do I go now? Probably back to the Kymco dealer who advised "next day delivery" for a DTX 360! Watch this space.
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Excited for you here!
July 17, 2014 : "It's time for bed - where's your father?"
"He's out in the garage looking at his Honda."
"Alright, well leave a light on for him...."
(https://i.postimg.cc/gkZnTDX2/Forzafirst.jpg)
[EDIT:there was a 1 hour gap between the start of this post and now]
Stig
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Phone-around to other dealers, delivery or go fetch-it - not an option?
Stig
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Phone-around to other dealers, delivery or go fetch-it - not an option?
Stig
Yet to explore that Stig. I had hoped that a local dealer - whom I know & trust - would be able to pull a rabbit out of the hat, but no. Honest answer we ain't likely to see one before March 2023 and in all likelihood by then, we won't be a Honda dealership!
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We are having similar issues here in the states. Honda and Yamaha are doing a terrible job of sending inventory across the ocean. I drove 330 miles to get an ADV150. Local dealers do have bikes in the showrooms but very few Honda's or Yamaha's. I don't know what the issue is. Other brands manage to get inventory into showrooms.
Part of the issue is that certain Honda and Yamaha models are very much in demand right now but lack of supply is the main issue.
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We are having similar issues here in the states. Honda and Yamaha are doing a terrible job of sending inventory across the ocean. I drove 330 miles to get an ADV150. Local dealers do have bikes in the showrooms but very few Honda's or Yamaha's. I don't know what the issue is. Other brands manage to get inventory into showrooms.
Part of the issue is that certain Honda and Yamaha models are very much in demand right now but lack of supply is the main issue.
I understand the frustration of not seeing your favs in the showrooms.....but I don't understand why the global issue of supply slowdowns are blamed on Honda or Yamaha.
I'm pretty certain my local Honda auto dealer would like to have more than 5 new cars on his lot, while his used lot is overflowing, and we have a giant Honda plant 45 miles away.
I don't get the idea that someone is dropping the ball....the issue is there are no balls to be found!
Ohio is refusing to encourage a massive chip manufacturer to build here.
COVID and chips.
Demand fell, production slowed - demand rose - production can't keep up.
GAS, cars, every damn thing!
Even though they don't know him Honda would love to sell Neil his ADV....
Heck - I remember when it happened to toilet paper.....you couldn't even find the chinese brand!
what was the question again.....?
Stig
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Phone-around to other dealers, delivery or go fetch-it - not an option?
Stig
Tried all dealers in a 100 mile radius - nothing, nada, zilch. Coming around to the idea of a DTX 360. Will take a few days now to ponder.
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Neil - I bet you'll love the new Kymco...and since you haven't ridden the new Honda, yet, you won't even know what you're missing! You'll probably give up some resale value down the road with the Kymco but we all know they are solid machines. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Thanks Hawk, I'm sure you're right!
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Yet to explore that Stig. I had hoped that a local dealer - whom I know & trust - would be able to pull a rabbit out of the hat, but no. Honest answer we ain't likely to see one before March 2023 and in all likelihood by then, we won't be a Honda dealership!
Just to pick up on that - won't be a Honda dealership?
I'm guessing you're talking about Crewe Honda?
That will be a hell of a loss :(
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Just to pick up on that - won't be a Honda dealership?
I'm guessing you're talking about Crewe Honda?
That will be a hell of a loss :(
Right 1st time Viper! Even going as far afield as SouthWales it’s the same story, no stock or idea when! Just been browsing BMW C400X’s again…
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Neil, no consideration of Piaggio BV 350 (or 400)? Might be easier to find..
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Known as the Beverley 400 here MB and no, not really my taste (don’t tell Stig!) as I prefer a more traditional scooter design. I know all the arguments for the large wheel varieties, but not for me.
Think I’ll just keep my powder dry and see if a bargain crops up maybe over winter, who knows?
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I'm a HUGE KTM fanboy!....Before I bought this Kymco AK 550 I was all set to get ANOTHER KTM 390 DUKE....I had a 2019 for one year and sold it to get to get me a new Lexus IS and did not want to hear much noise at home about all my TOYS....Regretted selling that bike the minute it was leaving my driveway!
HOWEVER....no dealer within 500 miles or more had any 390 DUKES in stock and most had no idea when one would show up.
But one day I went to the nearest KTM dealer to look over the 200 DUKE to see if it was the same size as the 390 but with a smaller motor....it really looked small to me....but Wow was it so damn good looking....for my eyes....I Love the KTM Orange wheels on their bikes....people here love the dark blue color on the AK 550 but I find it dull and boring personally....LOL
But I want to add....while at the dealership I saw the NEW 390 ADVENTURE bike....and I was excited to see it was awesome in person because it did not interest me much seeing it online.
And when I enquired about it they said it was the only one they had, it was sold and they had no idea when they might get another one in stock.
I LOVE my AK 550 but it was costly and I still dream about those DUKES!
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Right 1st time Viper! Even going as far afield as SouthWales it’s the same story, no stock or idea when! Just been browsing BMW C400X’s again…
Wow. Such a nice dealership. I wonder what they'll do instead.
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A Yamaha maxi not in the running?
For me, the only equal of Honda.
Stig
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I am actually a sucker for anything Suzuki, despite the finish not being as good as Honda by a long shot.
Yamaha I've never really gelled with but I wouldn't rule out trying them again one day.
Sadly the scooter range from Suzuki right now is absolute dross.
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Wow. Such a nice dealership. I wonder what they'll do instead.
Well they've already taken on Royal Enfield, Royal Alloy and Sym...
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A Yamaha maxi not in the running?
For me, the only equal of Honda.
Stig
I like the look of the T-Max, but not the price!
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Well they've already taken on Royal Enfield, Royal Alloy and Sym...
Ah, they've gone down the MotoGB route.
On the upside, that'll give them access to the surprisingly nice Benelli range
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On the upside, that'll give them access to the surprisingly nice Benelli range
It has, it does and they have them in the showroom already!
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Latest thoughts are to save my cash and invest a small part of it uprating the suspension of my X-Town. Current favourites are YSS if I can find out which ones will fit - they do not list the X-Town in their catalogue :( I'll keep you posted.
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Latest thoughts are to save my cash and invest a small part of it uprating the suspension of my X-Town. Current favourites are YSS if I can find out which ones will fit - they do not list the X-Town in their catalogue :( I'll keep you posted.
This will be of some interest to me!
As, I read a long time ago (Asian you-tuber who raced scooters) that there IS NO magic shock which gives very much improvement to a scooter's rather harsh ride over the stock shock from the manufacturer.
He said - and I've read a very few times by some honest speaking installers, who agreed afterwards - that once you spend the big $$ on the pretty colored shocks - it is a foregone conclusion (due to vanity?) that they improved the ride - when quite likely they did not!
I'll trust you to put this to bed for me.
Stig
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This will be of some interest to me!
I'll trust you to put this to bed for me.
Stig
As you know Stig, I uprated the back end of my PCX125 with YSS shockers and it did seem to improve the ride appreciably to me. If I can get hold of some for the X-Town I'll let you know. With my 104 kgs on board the poor scoot thinks it's carrying 2 fat Koreans around all the time as it is!
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Well that was a number I wasn't expecting! 6+ months before they expect to get one! Had a long chat with Karl the Sales guy and Roger the owner during which they admitted that after a 50+ year relationship with Honda they're ready to throw in the towel. Seems they can't get anywhere near the numbers of machines they are ordering so today when I visited, the showroom was stuffed with (readily available) Royal Enfields, Benellis, Sym and Royal Alloy machines. Have Honda lost the plot? Shame because I really liked the look and specs on the X-ADV.
So where do I go now? Probably back to the Kymco dealer who advised "next day delivery" for a DTX 360! Watch this space.
At this point who ever has a scooter in stock. DAN'S Cycle is having a difficult time getting inventory and long waits on parts. If it hadn't been for my large collection he wouldn't have had much inventory to sell.
All my scooters have sold with the exception of the 3 in parts in my garage. I still have 3 BMW'S on consignment with him for a premium price. My Majesty sold for double suggested NADA.
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If/ when I'm able to ride again the Honda X-ADV350 would be on the short list. I like the Kymco as well. At this time I will probably go with a Side x Side with power steering, A/C and heater that I could take the Collies with me.
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If/ when I'm able to ride again the Honda X-ADV350 would be on the short list. I like the Kymco as well. At this time I will probably go with a Side x Side with power steering, A/C and heater that I could take the Collies with me.
Sounds like a plan KK, fingers crossed 🤞
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