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Title: Agility 50 big problems
Post by: Jukka on November 02, 2024, 07:43:13 PM
Kymco Agility 50, 2006. Reason of engine fault we make big renovation.

We replaced cylinder, piston, cranksaft, cylinder head (ordered as complete assembly). So here is all new from cranksaft to top.

Last we replaced is carburetor- reason we try also it fix the problem.

Symptom: Scooter start with one kick, so this is good. But it runs about 5 - 10 minutes, and shut down itself. Also it is not possible accelerate- so, when add gas, engine stops. It is same if add gas fast or slow. Maximum speed is a little more than idle speed. ALSO engine make smoke- more than normal, and smoke smell is "not normal".

Next step is replace engine... so all possible is replaced.

* Timing is checked, it is ok.
* Gasoline supply is ok.
* Same fault with new and old carburetor
* Carburator adjusted "three turns"- but no effect is "one turn" or "much turns"
* Also we adjust it carburator needle- there is 5 steps. No effect.
* Piston rings are ok--- cylinder is new, and rings installed carefully.
* Valve clearance is 0,03 mm (we are in Finland...)

I cannot found what I must check next.
Title: Re: Agility 50 big problems
Post by: TiberiusDuval on February 03, 2025, 02:57:46 PM
My first post here, Finnish Kymco owner too.

Your problem is that valve clearance is way too small. It should be 0,08 NOT 0,03. Probably as engine warms up your valves will not shut fully, and engine dies.
Title: Re: Agility 50 big problems
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on February 04, 2025, 06:16:19 PM
My first post here, Finnish Kymco owner too.

Your problem is that valve clearance is way too small. It should be 0,08 NOT 0,03. Probably as engine warms up your valves will not shut fully, and engine dies.
I wondered if he meant .003in. ?
Stig
Title: Re: Agility 50 big problems
Post by: Ruffus on February 06, 2025, 06:09:40 PM
Check once again whether your carb(s) do have  this little washer, spring coil and o-ring within low jetting.
 Valve clearance is 0.12 millimeter both, for starters, then reduce to 0.10 mm.
Title: Re: Agility 50 big problems
Post by: TiberiusDuval on February 24, 2025, 03:55:59 PM
Check once again whether your carb(s) do have  this little washer, spring coil and o-ring within low jetting.
 Valve clearance is 0.12 millimeter both, for starters, then reduce to 0.10 mm.
0.12? If you do that engine sounds like old VW Beetle engine. I have 2006 Agility 50, 0.08 works right.
Title: Re: Agility 50 big problems
Post by: Ruffus on February 25, 2025, 05:20:31 PM
0.12? If you do that engine sounds like old VW Beetle engine. I have 2006 Agility 50, 0.08 works right.
Talking about tenth of millimeter here, NOT inch!
Title: Re: Agility 50 big problems
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on February 26, 2025, 02:54:56 PM
Plus, a little happy tapping means happy VW.
Title: Re: Agility 50 big problems
Post by: TiberiusDuval on February 26, 2025, 04:40:43 PM
Talking about tenth of millimeter here, NOT inch!

Yes likewise I'm talking about millimeters. I have repair and service guidebook, and that mentions 0.08mm :)
Title: Re: Agility 50 big problems
Post by: Ruffus on February 26, 2025, 06:10:08 PM
Welcome and sorry to say that 0.08mm are eight hundreth of a millimeter and therefor way too tight for valve lash, what engine whatsoever.

We really talking here about 0.12 and 0.10 millimeter (METRIC measurement).

Title: Re: Agility 50 big problems
Post by: TiberiusDuval on February 28, 2025, 02:05:04 PM
Welcome and sorry to say that 0.08mm are eight hundreth of a millimeter and therefor way too tight for valve lash, what engine whatsoever.

We really talking here about 0.12 and 0.10 millimeter (METRIC measurement).

Well, manual states that amount of valve lash, and I follow it. Followed it for 18 000 km worth, without problems :D
Title: Re: Agility 50 big problems
Post by: Ruffus on February 28, 2025, 05:00:37 PM
Good riddance to follow the manual, the best way!