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Scooters - 50cc => Super 9 => Topic started by: thebatman on February 06, 2011, 02:36:40 PM
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Good morning guys... Well, i have a L.C S9 05 model that i am going to build/rebuild very soon. I picked this scoot up awhile back as a few of you know already and have seen the pics but i figured i'd do a build thread on the s9.... Of course "cloud9" is "the bomb" and i cant compete there but i hope josh chimes in on this build...I have already broken the water pump cover, do have one on the way.... ;D
This will be an ongoing project as i am still trying to finish the ZX build, but will get full attn. soon..Here are a few pics for the ppl that havent seen it....
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/01060845.jpg)
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/01061203.jpg)
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/s9forsale11.jpg)
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/s9forsale08.jpg)
;D
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Sorry i for got to resize the pics..........
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Excellent, Batman! That's kind of your dream scoot, isn't it? ;) Probably will beat all your other scooters stock. Good luck and happy tinkerin.
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Bout dang time you posted us up some pics!...Looks like you finally figured out how...Now you been sayin' forever that you don't know how to post up no pics...Taking a looking it seems that but 3rd or 4th post on that profile is a pic...lol
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Excellent, Batman! That's kind of your dream scoot, isn't it? ;) Probably will beat all your other scooters stock. Good luck and happy tinkerin.
Hey hoo, Yeah it is... This one is suppose to be the bad ass kymco for a 50... I cant wait to get into this one and ride it.. I had a friend that had one and it would cruise 60+....
Yeah i think i finally have the pic thing down.......almost..lol
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I will be watching this and hope there aren't too many snags. keep a good camera nearby as we want photos. I am curious as to the condition of the bike as it sits now. Looks pretty good from the photos.
My brother test rode a 2002 s9 that had been modded by a pretty good mechanic. He was found by a passing driver in a ditch with a broken collarbone and rib. The helmet had a pretty good scuff on it as well. It was the first time he had ever ridden a scooter although he has owned about 4 motorcycles. Just got away from him. Before he even recovered he bought an Agility 125 which was a bit tamer. I guess he is hooked. :P What's the old saying about scars being better than tattoos? Good luck and keep us posted.
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Hey thanks sparko..... IM going to start this build now... I have a nasty "snag" on the ZX...(right side case stud hole broke off.) :'(
IT is definately D.O.A at the moment..
The crank bearings, water pump bearings are shot..(the w.p is the reason for the "blow up")
The p.o had cut the turn signal wires for some reason. I have to rewire those..
I should have all parts for this build... I hope to get more input through out this build..(even tho all the "builders" have gone)... Man, i miss the old forum.... :D
I will post a pic of the goodies i have for this one.... ;D
Amen brother, I hope it is smooth also.. :D
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I guess you're the builder now, dude. I guarantee you the old timers are watching on this one. But you will produce something good, maybe great. If not, that is ok. Nothing ventured nothing gained. That blue color looks great on your scooter. Hope you keep it. I don't suppose you are going for a bigger bore? Keep it original and see how fast it will go.
There is a 02 s9 that is for sale close by. Might go look at it. Under 1000 miles, I think it is miles. Could be kilometers. She didn't know. Could be a steal. :-\
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(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/02171258a.jpg)
She is stripped down......
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/02171301.jpg)
Semi clean......
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/02241950.jpg)
Trying to measure some port durations.....
Current durations @ EX. 188*-190*
BOOST @ 116*
TRANS. @ 128*-130*
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/02060954-1.jpg)
The parts i was blessed with for this project... ;D ;)
More updates to follow guys... If interested... I'm fkn obsessed these days. :D
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(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/04191232.jpg)
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/04191233.jpg)
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/04191233a.jpg)
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/04230927.jpg)
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/04230928.jpg)
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/05030812.jpg)
http://s1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/?action=view¤t=05110828.mp4 (http://s1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/?action=view¤t=05110828.mp4)
Well, she runs.... ;D
She is a dam BEAST too. This one is probably a good 7 mph faster than the ZX. Figure i'd go for a "matte black"/red scheme. Thought i had a pic of the console/fender painted......
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Now i am in the tuning stage on this...She has a nice launch but i do have a multivar, clutch to install but i'm hoping to get the carb dialed in 1st..
The carb has a 90mj,20pj,needle in middle slot ATM, thinking the neele down was better, she seems a tad slower now. Will return needle and hit another chop......
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Looking good!!! 8)
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Oh crap, i have a few pics to post later on today..
She has the 95mj
20pj
needle in 2nd/middle slot
Still got the 7g rollers/stock vario (haven't installed multivar yet,idk y either) with the 2000 red malossi
She is a beast for sure but idk how "dialed" it is tho either......
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DAm, i havent updated lately on me S9...
Why in the world do all my pics seem to get deleted or removed? :o ??? :o >:( >:( >:(
I don't even remember which pics are up now. ::)
I have been playing witht the carb again... As of the other day.. i have 85mj....20pj...S1 needle all the way up... mix @ 3/4 out...oem airbox(for the moment, i miss my noise.. :D)
Of course my contra went out and i installed the malossi "green" contra with 5.1g rollers. Thinking 4.5 would be better.(she still falls OUt of the band)
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Well, bad news... I just blew my piston/rings today...
Pics to come and see your opinion as to the cause.. Maybe lean mix with to much oil?
She was good while she lasted... ;) :'(
Thought maybe just the rings, but i can see a corner broke on the piston... :'(
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Get the Picts. up. Maybe your camera/phone has a virus/malware that gets picked up by the server? I saw the picts. missing.
The scoot lasted awhile tho. Did you change something besides the spring?
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Yeah, my puter had messed up recently but those pics were from photobucket. IDK. i had posted those a good while back. I can repost once i get them off of my copied disc.
I havent posted pics of the piston yet. The cyl walls don't SEEM affected with running my fingers around the cyl wall. Still seems smooth around, and something did hit the piston top, guess a piece of ring. Gotta get that exhaust off. I'll probably do that in the a.m at this point.
Of course the stock of those piston kits are slack as crap everywhere. Out of stock signs.. :(
Gotta work on getting one of those. DAM i need my z up.
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..helluva way to revive the thread batman...
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..helluva way to revive the thread batman...
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I know that sh** is right... She's fkd now.
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I was trying to get some pics uploaded to photobucket but it's acting funny. sh** freezes or way to slow. IDK if it's cuz i havent upgraded the ram yet(upgraded to win7, some sites are a tad slower, so i want to double up the ram) or it's them them selves.
Dam, now i cant even upload the dam pics. What a morning already...
I got her apart and of course it's worse than i even thought. At some fkn point the c-clip came out.
Wonder if boring to a 48 is possible? HA, if it's affordable to me.
Way hard being the broke man of the bunch trying to mod scooters.. :D ;)
This is just SOOOOOOOOOOO fkn depressing....
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I was trying to get some pics uploaded to photobucket but it's acting funny. sh** freezes or way to slow. IDK if it's cuz i havent upgraded the ram yet(upgraded to win7, some sites are a tad slower, so i want to double up the ram) or it's them them selves.
Dam, now i cant even upload the dam pics. What a morning already...
I got her apart and of course it's worse than i even thought. At some fkn point the c-clip came out.
Wonder if boring to a 48 is possible? HA, if it's affordable to me.
Way hard being the broke man of the bunch trying to mod scooters.. :D ;)
This is just SOOOOOOOOOOO fkn depressing....
I've got a salvagable cylinder if you need another one. I can clean it up an hone it for you. :(
~Josh
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There are 47.5mm pistons too!
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=47.5mm+piston&_sacat=See-All-Categories (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=47.5mm+piston&_sacat=See-All-Categories)
Easy hone to .5mm over. I used the Yamaha 80 piston in the Malossi jug. Just have to assemble it in the J. engine (ZX). Took about 1/2 an hour of up, and down on the drill press. I set the tension on the hone SUPER light to control the "chatter". I saw where you said "piece of ring". Do you set the end gap on the rings? The tiny "tabs" on the end of the ring at the pin WILL break if you dont causing... well U know. I saw on J.'s site a fellow had a loss of rpm's after a soft seize. The consensus was a mis aligned cylinder due to not properly torquing the (bolts/studs). I think it was end gap. The wear marks were on opposite sides of the Ehx. port showing (to me) the rings had nowhere else to go.
Point is end gap is important.
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..posting batman's pics...
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That looks like what I described. Is the broken end AT the pin in the piston? Looks like the dome edge broke at the exh. port from no end gap. The ring gets forced into the exh. port, and gets caught on the edge. That's my 2 cents
If the pin is at the spot with the score in the piston it is possible the lack of gap broke the locating tab first causing the ring to "leap" into the port. Anyway... ALWAYS GAP YOUR RINGS
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Anyway... ALWAYS GAP YOUR RINGS
..oh, sh**....what's that mean??
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Your sh**tin@ me...
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If the pin is at the spot with the score in the piston it is possible the lack of gap broke the locating tab first causing the ring to "leap" into the port. Anyway... ALWAYS GAP YOUR RINGS
Never tried gapping rings, never liked the sound of filing brand new rings.. ;)
Anyway, no the fkn c-clip musta been the culprit.
The tabs on the piston are intact, c-clip missing, fkd cylinder up, broke the rings and piston..
Areomyst was suppose to place an order like a month or better ago for another piston but never has.
Good thing i guess.
Thought i had it set up to bore out but the f***S dropped the cylinder and made a mark on the skirt and then they wouldn't do it. Tried telling em, i didn't give a crap about the skirt...
Hopefully soon i can order some oem parts for it since Rage's deal musta fell thru.
It'll be real hard to whip up on my homeboy's scoot then. :'(
HE got a 150 engine we installed in a daelim e5.(now it's going in a gy6 frame,extended..4 scooters making it. ;D 1)gy6 50(peace sports..yuck)..2)yamaha vino..3)gy6 150...4)gy6 "gator"..yuck again..
I could whip that 150 on MY s9 before....he'd get me on hills though
DAM, I DON'T WANT HER OEM. :'(
bet i'd get better mpg though. :D
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..imma leave my 50 engine oem for a while...
..got th malossi filter tuned pretty good now...finally...
..gonna try the tech pipe, next...then when i get that dialed in...
..just wanna ride.......
;D
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Holy time lapse Batman.... :o
It's been a minute since anything has went on with this scooter..
I dreamed of another kit for my Black S9 but dam i never have enough cash at the right time....
Was going back oem, then the fund situation again...
I FINALLY sourced an OEM Cylinder AND Head for the Black S9.. :o 8) :o
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff435/therealbat/DOA%20LC%20Kymco%20S9/6844b76a.jpg)
Got a GREAT, GREAT deal on the combo....IMO....
Have already ordered the piston kit
Blacky will rise again very soon..... Bad-Ass OEM.... ;D
I only have the Arreche 19mm carb AND the technigas RS-2 for it. :o :-\
SOOOOOO, IDK how she will like that being a oem bore BUT Haze runs like a MO FO for the size bore. I was very impressed with the oem engine.(when i got the black 1, i put a kit on her then. Hadn't ever rode a s9 before) The 19mm may be to much... Hell, the pipe may be to much but i have seen and heard ppl using a 70 pipe on a oem cyl. :) Any input on that one?..... ???
I can't wait to have this one alive again regardless.. My family needs to run TOGETHER... :D ;D
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..hot damn!!!!
..these oem s9s are frikin awesome scoots, bro...
..i want me a red one!!
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..these oem s9s are frikin awesome scoots, bro...
..i want me a red one!!
Hell yEs they are. I was way impressed, i had only ridden the kitted. Works for me that way i can maybe keep a few running for awhile.. :D.... Get back on lil red to... May have a source for the repair FINALLY....I hope.. :-\
Do the same cvt set-up on this one too.... :D
IF i knew WTH was happening since Haze was different..
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I would bet the pipe will work like a champ on an oem jug. The reason I think so is the rpm band on those nines is right in line with the pipe. The Carb will be fine too.
What is it you still need for the ZX?
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..my technigas next pipe likes 8500...
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That is where they are rated...8,500
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..yeah...nina loves 8500.....
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Blacky will rise again very soon..... Bad-Ass OEM.... Grin
I only have the Arreche 19mm carb AND the technigas RS-2 for it. Shocked Undecided
SOOOOOO, IDK how she will like that being a oem bore BUT Haze runs like a MO FO for the size bore. I was very impressed with the oem engine.(when i got the black 1, i put a kit on her then. Hadn't ever rode a s9 before) The 19mm may be to much... Hell, the pipe may be to much but i have seen and heard ppl using a 70 pipe on a oem cyl. Smiley Any input on that one?..... Huh
I can't wait to have this one alive again regardless.. My family needs to run TOGETHER... Cheesy Grin
DAAAAAAAMMMMMM....
It's been a good bit since this thread was alive..
The count down has begun I hope to where I can finally fix my sh**..
I had rebuilt the engine and hoped for the best but I guess the reed cage had blown with the motor.
SSOOOOO, she has been sitting since then..
Maybe after I get a cage, she will live again.....................