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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Downtown 300 => Topic started by: TANWare on June 23, 2011, 05:27:21 AM
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Expensive But................. (http://www.motorcycle-exhausts.co.uk/DNA_AIR_FILTER_YAMAHA_T_135_200611--product--12153.html)
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Expensive But................. (http://www.motorcycle-exhausts.co.uk/DNA_AIR_FILTER_YAMAHA_T_135_200611--product--12153.html)
Should include patent for nanotechnology for 68 $ + shipping.
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Should include patent for nanotechnology for 68 $ + shipping.
Alot more than $68, that is UK Pounds or apr. $106 plus..................
The Lightech is 80.95 (http://www.oppracing.com/product_display/184461-lightech-air-filter/) plus shipping....................
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Then, a scientist should be included too.
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HELLO,
I CAN GET OEM AND AFTER MARKET AIR FILTERS STARTING AT 15.95. PLEASE INQUIRE WITH YEAR MAKE AND MODEL AND I CAN GET A PRICE FOR YOU.
THANKS,
JENNY
TNT CYCLES
717-453-7265
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the Air filters though are paper or the high flow cotton type as the links I've provided?
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sounds like she can get just about everything for Kymcos. Give them a try.
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I just wish she would learn how to disable caps lock >:(
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She is speaking very loud so that you can hear her. :)
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I ordered the Lightech air filter from OPPRacing. 80.95 was the price with shipping and insurance to NJ it comes out as 94.45 for those interested..............
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www.oppracing.com (http://www.oppracing.com) finally has shipped the lightech air filter. I would have liked to have installed it in warmer weather so that if there is a difference I could report it. With the air getting cooler it is also heavier and denser so there will be no way to know if any changes are weather or air filter related.
I can say now that I am at 4,800 miles the engine seems to have freed up a bit more. I have noticed this in the engine tone and ease to maintain highway speeds etc. I haven't, nor will, try a WOT as I have no more interest in that. I never use over 80 MPH, so whatever is there is of little consequence.
I think I've squeezed about all I can from this bike for my use. So other than a windscreen and top box I'll be done with mods. I can say for what this bike is I am very happy with the machines performance so far...............
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the Air filters though are paper or the high flow cotton type as the links I've provided?
She tries to drive up business by posting - without paying attention to the thread. I haven't seen anything helpfull.
FWIW: An Xciting 500 mirror costs $63.59 through kymcoparts123.com or you can pay $69.95 through her site (10% more).
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and there are no downtown 300i parts there at all that I can find.................
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I placed an order for a Dna air filter a week ago, hopefully it will arive by spring!
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THE MIRRORS FOR THE XCITING 500 I CAN DO FOR 56.00 WITH FREE SHIPPING.
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Well after 2 weeks my DNA air filter arrived! I noticed a difference right away with throtle responce. Very happy with the new fileter not the price. Also istalled a Givi windshield, its a windy day so I really cant tell much difference. I do notice alot my wind comming up thru the bottom front shooting back on me much more than the stock one did. Also put Diablo tires on front and rear. Much better than the stock Kendalls. With the Diablo's It fells like Im stuck to the ground more, ride smoother.
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Well after 2 weeks my DNA air filter arrived! I noticed a difference right away with throtle responce. Very happy with the new fileter not the price. Also istalled a Givi windshield, its a windy day so I really cant tell much difference. I do notice alot my wind comming up thru the bottom front shooting back on me much more than the stock one did. Also put Diablo tires on front and rear. Much better than the stock Kendalls. With the Diablo's It fells like Im stuck to the ground more, ride smoother.
Cool, I know the DNA is supposed to let alot of air in. The lightech should do the same. Just remember nothing is free, if you use the extra responce then you use extra gas. If you keep the acceleration at the same rates it really shouldn't effect gas milage much if any. It doesn't matter if the air restriction comes from the filter or your twist into the grip, a tame ride will keep up the MPG.
Now to the other side though, with better responce etc will it in the end effect MPG from the inevitable use of any extra umph............
Edit, with the Givi are you looking now through the windscreen or can you still see over the top?
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I got the lightech today and the DNA filter may be better. The Lightech hs the washable material but the area is not larger than the stock air filter. The DNA by its pictures has a larger filter material area. With that said I did 20 miles and here are my impressions.
At first the idle cold seemed slightly smoother but nothing appreciable. Took it real easy the first 3 miles to warm up the engine, all felt normal at about 35 MPH cruise for that period. Now warmed up started to try noticing any changes.
The first impression is the idle is smoother. You can still tell it is a thumper but it is slightly silkier and more consistent. It now sticks and hold 1,600 RPM on the money all the time. Couldn't explain at first why but I will get to that later.
For the next 5 miles in town I noticed the engine responded to throttle acceleration more rapidly. It was pretty fast before but now feels almost instant. Seat of the pants feel a bit more mid range responce but at first I attributed this too placebo effect but discount that now. Again I'll get to that later.
Finally got to the 50, run at 50 MPH, highway. Acceleration felt slightly brisker out of the jug handle but I could not explian this right away. Now after a mile a light came up and I had to let off the throttle and this is where it all started to make sense.
As I let go of the throttle the engine breaking was no where near I was letting off the gas in the car. I had my position pre planed b efore doing so to avoid hitting the breaks but now I had to as I was now slowed down as much as anticipated. Next light same thing again so now things were starting to click.
Just to be sure I tried other deceleration speeds and the same effectt. Most notably if you let the throttle off to about 15 MPH the bike transitioned hard from hitting the throttle. The transion is no where near as hard now. The same can be said where apr 10 MPH is reached and the clutch lets go to a coast. you still feel it but the transition is not as hard.
Now to my theory of why, all engines have to over come many resistance factors. This includes that of drawing air especially when through a high resistance air filter. Thumpers are effect more so as the lowered rotational mass and the fact other power pulses do not exist to help over come those high resistance air intakes to a cylinder. It is bad enough the compression stroke tries to slow the piston down but adding air intake stroke as well makes alot for the power stroke to over come. Not that there is still resistance on the intake stroke but it is reduced some what.
In lay terms it is like having engine driving an air pump that would eat some power that would cause the extra engine breaking effect. Now with the new air filter you have effectively removed the air pump from being driven by the engine to release the power to the rear wheel. Same goes for idle, since there is a lowered power draw the thumper can run more smoothly.
To put it another way, even though the air cleaner was clean, the change is like that of changing an old dirty air filter to a new cleean one. The engine seems just that happy with the added air flow capability of the new material. I was only hoping for just a washable air filter but it seems there are some other bennefits.......................
Edit; did a short WOT from a 10 MPH roll. It seemd to get to 6,500 RPM a tad quicker but that is all I noticed as only brought it to 40 MPH.....
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The filter area on the DNA is about 3 times the size of the stock filter.
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The filter area on the DNA is about 3 times the size of the stock filter.
Yeah, I think the Lightech with the material will provide better air flow, at WOT the DNA would be better...............
Edit; At 2:45 AM 50F temps I did a WOT. Still 92 MPH indicated at 7,900 RPM. It was pretty windy/gusty from various directions though.................
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I ordered the Lightech air filter from OPPRacing. 80.95 was the price with shipping and insurance to NJ it comes out as 94.45 for those interested..............
Where in NJ. I'm in Bellmawr in S. Jersey.
Richard L.
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Ocean, monmouth cty, nj................
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Preliminary info but I went through my first full tank and normal riding. 72.4 MPG so it seems the air filter hasn't affected gas milage under normal riding.......................
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Fellow forum members. I am way away from any Kymco dealers and sent a pm to Jenny at tntcycles and she answered right back and I called and ordered from her and bang, had my parts in a few days. Can't bitch about her service. If you are like me with no dealers and even with one she was right on her prices. I'm a believer and a customer from now on.
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Air filter is important part of all vehicles an good for engine to work well. Air filter is used in vehicle to purpose of filter air and remove dirt in air and preventing the engine from damages. Its really very useful part of all vehicles.