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Scooters - Big Bore => Xciting 500 => Topic started by: Hoolander2 on January 01, 2012, 06:44:58 PM
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I went ahead and ordered one from the guy in Poland. $114 USD and free shipping, so cheaper than a new US version actually.
It was not in original Kymco packaging but IS brand new. Sadly, it had one broken tab but thankfully only broken at the screw hole so the screw held that tab fine.
I decided not to return or gripe about the broken tab since it mounted fine and it works well.
The position lights look really nice and nice and visible. I've already ordered little blue LED bulbs for them. ;D They also cast light nicely off to the sides of the main beam.
The headlight beam is different from our USA versions. Low beam has a sort of blank area in the upper left quadrant, I guess to keep from shining in oncoming drivers' eyes. High beam is awesome.
Pictures to come when I get a chance.
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How do us po white trash folks order from them thar Polskies? :D Really, how or who would we order from? And what bennies does this have over the stock unit? Dual head light, or what? Thanks. :-*
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Hey, Sissy. This po ol' boy only recently discovered the joy and sometimes heartbreak of ordering off of Ebay. :D It was listed there and the seller was in Poland. It's the ONLY place this American has seen a Euro version available for sale. Advantages are that a number of us think it looks cooler than the USA version. ;) But mainly the extra side lights (or position lights) we consider as giving extra visibility.
I'd been wanting one for a while. But after a couple of close calls with cars lately I went ahead with it figuring I'd be more visible.
Edit to add: to shop for your scooter on ebay, go to Ebay.com and in their search box type in Xciting, then choose "cars, trucks, etc" as the category to search. That will give you just about everything that will fit your Xciting. If you want to narrow the search, type in something like xciting, brake pads or whatever. For another instance, the other night I typed in "194 led blue" and got every blue led bulb of that type on ebay displayed.
Ordering is generally easy but many sellers want you to have a PayPal account which is also easy to set up. You can tie it to your bank account for instant transfer or, as some have suggested, only put enough money in the Paypal account to cover the purchase you are about to do. This you'll do by computer too. Some sellers will take credit card number or even hold your purchase while waiting for your check.
And of course some items are on ebay for auction which you would bid on and follow the auction over the course of time it runs -- may be days or hours -- it'll say how long it's going to run.
The headlight module I got is no longer listed. I think there were two when I commited to buy. But likely will be more at some time. I speculate that this seller in Poland probably got ahold couple of lights that were damaged and put em up for sale on ebay. Believe me I was leary of ordering from there but had the bug in me for that headlight and I'd searched around and found no other option.
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I am curious to this mod as I have been contemplating doing the same. I can't wait for those glossy photos! ;)
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Sissy, it occured to me that you already know about ebay so I apologize for the run on about that. I didn't mean to insult you.
By the way Chandler and Sissy, I sometimes see these light modules when I visit ebay and click whatever thing makes all international sellers come up. They are listed by a seller in Germany. I'll try to find it and post the link. Think I posted it once before in a thread here started by Commuterscooter.
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None taken. Believe me, I am no ebay or internet GURU at all. :-* Do you know how much a speedo cluster cost? I am so sick of looking at KPM & not MPH. :-*
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It's chrome and rippled around the little side position lights. It came with white bulbs in them. I live in Georgia and don't know if it's legal here. Guess I should ask someone huh? :D
If not legal I'll just put the blue ones in and take pictures and take em back out I guess. ;) Maybe amber would be legal. . .
Pictures coming as soon as possible -- maybe tomorrow.
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Sissy, I looked up the instrument cluster, it's $204.98 on the Kymcoparts123 site. I think if you order it you get the updated version as is on the newer models. I gather the dials are painted a different color from ours but not sure the mph is any easier to read.
I sure can't read my mph dial and I've never gotten familiar enough with kilometers to make the conversion in my head quickly. I had a friend with a car set their cruise control on 45 mph and I rode behind them so at least I know where 45 is on my dial and can estimate from there.
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Here we go. (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac134/Hepafilter_2010/100_0327.jpg)(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac134/Hepafilter_2010/100_0328.jpg) Still haven't received the blue leds to try out.
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SEXY!!! ;D ;D
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I love it!
I am working on finding an adjustable windscreen. Once that is complete, the headlight is next. Thanks for the followup :D
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Thats the reason I would like to have the new cluster as the speedo is on the outside and therefore much larger to see. Our small red inside MPH is very hard to read. Nice lights. :-*
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Hoo, I looked up the polish seller to buy the headlight module, but he is no longer on ebay it seems. There is another ebay seller Rollershop.de that has the module for $113 + 35 shipping. I wonder if it will fit my '09 as it says it fits '04-07.
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I believe it will fit. I think the reason he lists it only to '09 is because after that the Euro Xcitings went to the new fairing/headlights.
I can't seem to remember how to get those international sellers to come up on ebay. How'd you do it?
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When you type what you are looking for on fleabay, look to the left column and scroll down the option list. Check off "Worldwide" for sellers.
So with no luck finding the Polish guy, I went ahead and bought the one from "Rollershop.de" for $113 + 35 shipping. Now for the new windscreen. I sure wish I could find an adjustable Givi for my '09. All of the European sellers offer it but for the new fairing style 500's. I believe the European community got the new style fairing in '07. Sooo, if we are looking for parts from Europe, we need to look for 2006 and older 500's to fit our bikes.
BTW, you are my hero with these improvements!
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Don't know about hero -- maybe idiot for spending so much . . . :D Still my Xciting is getting more like the look that I want and hopefully more safe and winter friendly.
You've got my mind working on the Euro to USA windshield business. I would still think that it "could" work somehow. I'd sure like to see what the newer Euro windshield holder/carrier looks like. (The part underneath that bolts to the dash.) Because I'm thinking that if you had one of those too, you might be in business. Like you, I tend to think that nothing's changed about the bolt hole arrangement for the holder/carrier.
What we'd need would be the parts manual for Euro Xcitings '09 or later? Anybody know where to look one up?
Oh and hey -- I remember seeing on youtube, a conversion a guy over there in Europe did. He did have something like the new windshield on his old style fairing! Looked to me like he must have done some custom work but not TOO serious. I'll try to find it. Edit: correction, it wasn't youtube it was imageshack or something. Just some still images. I think it might even be linked off of this site in some old post. Gotta think.
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Hey, when you think about it, Safety is priority! Okay, now how about this idea...What do you think of the Euro fairing mounted mirrors? I love the look. Makes me wonder why they weren't offered to the US market... So with that up conversion, we would need two mirrors and the fairing/paint to go with it. Have you ever thought of it?
Regarding the windscreen on the '07 and up Euro models with the double headlights, the only thing I could think of would be the fact that the Euro Givi adjustable screen has the bottom pointiness that may block the US market horn. I really can't see anything else mounting wise that would be different. Oh, maybe the plastic trim that goes on top of the stock screen...
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I want to agree that the euro version windshields would work, but don't want to share in the blame if you order one and it doesn't!!! :D Yeah, you'd want to get the new trim pieces too I guess.
Oh yes, I've spent a good bit of time researching those euro mirrors too. They were only on early euro models. There were complaints about them not giving a decent rear view. I'm sure you've seen the early fairings on ebay from a seller in Israel with mounting cutouts for those mirrors. Think he has a black, a silver, and a blue. Relatively cheap too except for shipping maybe.
I've posted a youtube vid of a mod done by a european where he mounted those early mirrors up on the edges of his windshield trim. It looked GOOD! I was seriously looking for some of those mirrors for a while. Found them in only one UK site and they wouldn't reply to my emails. Well, they were expensive anyway. I'll try to find and repost the youtube for your interest.
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Check out the videos in this thread, especially the second one for the early euro mirrors mod I mentioned. Wouldn't even need the early euro fairing if you did this. But you WOULD need the hardware that originally attatched to the frame. I now believe he simply drilled the new bolt holes where the trim pieces clip together. Pretty smart. http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=3828.0 (http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=3828.0)
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That does look good. I am sure he did that to raise the height. Those automotive style mirrors set the bike apart. Thanks for taking the time to find that!
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Very nice! I hope I didn't wait too long to get mine. I upgraded the turn signals to magic blinkers and LED's first because it also increases the visibility from the rear. Being a single parent recovering from a divorce - replacing my daughters things has been a priority...
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Yes, JustWantToRide. You are the one who set me on this visibility thing. I already replaced the rear turn signal bulbs with leds. I ordered the magic blinkers with the intention of installing them on the rear but a prob with paypal cancelled the order. >:( Something about unconfirmed address which is odd since other orders I've done with that account come in fine. Here are the leds I installed. Maybe you can give me your opinion of them: http://www.ebay.com/itm/380396309066?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/380396309066?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648)
By the way, that gasket around the whole rear tail light/turn signal lens was a pure pain to put back in! I did get it in and it's obvious it does it's job well since there was no dust inside.
I now have the little blue leds in the headlight position lights. I'll add a link to this post soon so you can give me an opinion on them too. Adding link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/320820706679?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/320820706679?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648)
Pictures when I can. ;)
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It's hard to compare LED's even when they are from the same manufacturer. Few list the lumens, and I'm not sure they measure it the same. Seeing them in use on the bike is the only way to go - but I'm sure they are better than the stock bulbs. I look forward to some pics.
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These pics aren't the greatest, I didn't have much time and didn't experiment with camera settings. Will get more soon. These don't do justice to the beauty of the blues. (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac134/Hepafilter_2010/100_0338.jpg)(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac134/Hepafilter_2010/100_0337.jpg)
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NICE! ! ! !
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Oooh...very nice. Love the double lights and the blue. Would look good on my blue X500.
But, that'll wait till I address some more important issues.
Also, good detail of the Givi shield. At 6'2.5" -- I may end up going that route.
Gonna raise my stock one first and see what Chandler comes up with.
BTW...for comparison purposes...about how tall are you?
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Wow, that does look nice! I can't wait to get my headlight assy. Where'd you get the LED's?
I gotta say, your whole setup really transforms the bike and brings it up a few notches.
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I installed a set of led amber lights up front since I'm running the Magic Blinkers up front and wanted to cut down on the power used. I purchased them from http://superlumination.com/1156_1157.htm (http://superlumination.com/1156_1157.htm) model 7507 PY21W Tower European Bulbs, 7507 Bau15s Single Circuit. This site was a recommendation from UrBestFriend. I was a little disappointed that they were not as bright as the stock incandescent bulbs but for night time they are more than adequate. I would say they are 25-33% less brightness then stock. The upside is that they draw very little power. I just ordered Magic Blinkers for my rear lights and think I'll switch those out to LED and put the stock bulbs in the front again.
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Thanks guys. ;) Yeah, Vanceman, those WOULD look good on your blue Xciting! I toyed with the idea of purple or pink for a minute or two. :D I'm about 6 ft. and 140 lbs. Will use my stock windshield in the summertime. And I will be trimming 2 1/2 to 3 inches off the top of the Givi.
ChandlerScoot, I got the blue 194 leds off of ebay. Check to see if the link in my post above works for you. If not, I can post another one. They have 13 leds apiece. There were a ton of different ones on ebay and I spent time looking at most of em. These seemed like they'd be about the best. I base that not on any expertise at all -- only my three nights of "shopping".
Lastly, I should say that I think technically, this module is not legal for use here in the USA. It doesn't have DOT imprinted on it so it could get us in a small bit of trouble I suppose.
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I installed a set of led amber lights up front since I'm running the Magic Blinkers up front and wanted to cut down on the power used. I purchased them from http://superlumination.com/1156_1157.htm (http://superlumination.com/1156_1157.htm) model 7507 PY21W Tower European Bulbs, 7507 Bau15s Single Circuit. This site was a recommendation from UrBestFriend. I was a little disappointed that they were not as bright as the stock incandescent bulbs but for night time they are more than adequate. I would say they are 25-33% less brightness then stock. The upside is that they draw very little power. I just ordered Magic Blinkers for my rear lights and think I'll switch those out to LED and put the stock bulbs in the front again.
They aren't on in your pictures are they? Mine are brighter than stock. I wonder if it is because you are using the same power tap for the blue driving lights?
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=230024330395754#w716-h403 (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=230024330395754#w716-h403)
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Well, folks, I asked a couple of deputies in a Subway today if the blues were legal and the answer was "nope". So, guess they're coming back out and I'll go with some white or amber. :'(
Maybe I'll put the blues in if I participate in the anual Toys for Tots run here. Should be able to get away with them for that.
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HEY, Whats wrong with pink? Kiss Kiss :-*
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I think with either amber or white lights, no LEO would even think the bike was not stock. We need all the visibility we can get. Yesterday a lady on her cell phone crossed four lanes of traffic starting from the HOV lane
to try to knock me over, I mean, get in my lane to exit the freeway. She seen me at the last minute and swerved back in the right lane. (I was on the offramp) I did have an escape plan in case...
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They aren't on in your pictures are they? Mine are brighter than stock. I wonder if it is because you are using the same power tap for the blue driving lights?
I am using that power tap. I didn't notice any difference when I had the stock bulbs in as far as brightness goes but when I replaced them with the LED's they were dimmer. What power tap are you using?
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I replaced my rear turn signal bulbs with red led bulbs. Pluged right in (1156 type). I checked brightness against the OEM bulb by checking when I only had one installed and comparing to the incandesant which was still on the other side. The original incandesant was a tad brighter. I got the most super-duper led bulbs I could find with my limited experience. They have two rows of leds pointing out radially and three bigger leds pointing straight out. The leds are plenty bright and look good and red. (Had to leave off the amber color cone which went over the OEM bulbs of course)
I notice a lot of the led sellers state that the led bulbs are not brighter than incandesant. Others sort of bypass that statement by saying how super bright their leds are but never actually saying they're brighter than incandesant. Anyway, I'm happy with these led bulbs and hope to have the magic blinker units installed soon. Then I'll be red all across the back of the scooter. ;)
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I am using that power tap. I didn't notice any difference when I had the stock bulbs in as far as brightness goes but when I replaced them with the LED's they were dimmer. What power tap are you using?
The same taps. The only difference is that I don't have anything else on those power taps. That, and different LED's.
Do you have any pictures where the LED's are on?
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I've posted this elsewhere, but since it goes with Hoolander's thread, I added my headlight assembly here too. I have the yellow LED's from the local auto parts store. For those on the sidelines, the headlight module which I ordered from Germany (Ebay seller Rollershop.de) does have DOT and SAE markings on it. What makes me curious is to why Kymco didn't just keep the same style throughout the global market?
Many thanks to Hoolander for the inspiration. It was pricey, but well worth it in my opinion!
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z229/Chandlerazman/XC500headlightonE.jpg)
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z229/Chandlerazman/XC500headlight0ffE.jpg)
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That's awesome, Munks! May I ask what search you use?
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Thanks for that link, Munks. I love that headlight module, and can't say no to free shipping! I may keep that in mind and maybe pick up an extra CVT belt while I'm at it.
edit: Hmm... but that belt they have doesn't look right. Only has the bumps on one side?
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"Ordering is generally easy but many sellers want you to have a PayPal account which is also easy to set up. You can tie it to your bank account for instant transfer or, as some have suggested, only put enough money in the Paypal account to cover the purchase you are about to do. This you'll do by computer too. Some sellers will take credit card number or even hold your purchase while waiting for your check."
Here's a tip. NEVER link your bank account to Paypal. Not because of fraud either... Paypal CAN FREEZE your paypal account during a dispute, and if your bank account is linked, it is frozen as well. I have never had this issue but if you google it you will find plenty that have. I use a debit card that is just for Paypal. Add the exact amount per purchase, and no issues. Happy Fleabaying...
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"edit: Hmm... but that belt they have doesn't look right. Only has the bumps on one side?"
The "Cogs" are there to relieve stress as the belt wraps around smaller diameters. Some makers use them on both sides of the belt, and others build the carcass of the belt to not need them. this may help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_(mechanical) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_(mechanical))
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Here is another you may like ,,I bought this one but not installed,,,much lower price
http://www.comagination.com/modBike.htm (http://www.comagination.com/modBike.htm)
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That's awesome, Munks! May I ask what search you use?
Not to distract... Try Surf Canyon! It starts off like google then narrows the search as you find the links that pertain. It is the opposite of google, and does not trace your links (tracking cookies).You may think it does nothing but follow the instructions, and it is WAYYYYY better than google. It narrows your search going hundreds of pages back as you eliminate "dead ends". Soon you will be "the Most Interesting Man Alive". (Including instructions on bowling overhand)
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Rise from your grave!
Resurrecting an old thread, but I finally pulled the trigger on this Euro headlight module. From a Polish eBay seller, was quite a bit more expensive than the prices listed earlier in this thread. Came to $190 shipped to Canada, but for a bit more visibility I'm willing to pay.
So while I'm waiting for this to be delivered, can anybody tell me what size of LED bulb will fit in the side position lights? Might also order some white LED bulbs from dealextreme or someplace.
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They are led 194. Type that into ebay and you'll get thousands of items to choose from. Or use your favorite supplier. One thing I read on one supplier's ad said leds should not be put in a headlight module or anywhere where they'll be subjected to high heat because it said they will fail. I'd already installed mine and haven't had failure yet in about a year of use.
When I was looking for those leds, I tried to look for ones with as many individual leds as possible -- or at least those with the brighter leds. I think I wound up with some with 18 leds on each bulb. Super yellow is what I finally installed after asking some local deputies about the blue ones I first installed and being told they weren't legal.
The holes in the back of the module will accomodate leds that are slightly larger in diameter than the incandescant bulbs which come in it stock.
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Excellent, thank you very much for the information!
I'll order two pairs just in case they fail for whatever reason. As long as the module doesn't get damaged, if the LED fails to light up then I'm no worse than what I started with!
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Got the headlight module today, and installed LEDs from dealextreme SKU 51358. Power-on test seems fine, but for next time I think I will order a shorter LED with fewer but larger LEDs, since I am worried that the LED might fall out from the bumps of driving.
I ordered from eBay seller motoswiat_com_pl, the module arrived with both side mounting tabs broken. I informed the store of this but told them I could just epoxy the pieces back on (which I did), they replied very apologetically and offered 20% off future purchases. So far I am very pleased with the new module and also the customer service, so I can recommend this as a good seller for anyone interested in picking up the module. Just when you check out, ask for additional care to protect the side tabs during the packing stage.
(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/7977/x500ledclose.th.jpg) (http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/7977/x500ledclose.jpg) (http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6876/x500ledon.th.jpg) (http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6876/x500ledon.jpg) (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2531/x500ledonclose.th.jpg) (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2531/x500ledonclose.jpg)
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Damn that head light looks great!
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Multi SMD LEDs are the older types., you may want to try the new FLAT LEDs, They are brighter and produce a whiter white...
Here's my T10 LED, there are other bigger variants too.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g436/castandiello77/2012-05-27114840.jpg?t=1339641017)
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Thats got to make you more visable. :-*
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Dayummm Vivo that's hot! Why did you have to show this to me now? :p
If the ones I have right now get hot enough to melt the solder and cause the LEDs to fall off, then I'll replace them :) But in the meantime I'll be shopping already! If anything exists to make this scooter more pimp, I need to have it!! But it's the extra visibility that really matters. Can't wait to try these out tomorrow night.
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Dayummm Vivo that's hot! Why did you have to show this to me now? :p
If the ones I have right now get hot enough to melt the solder and cause the LEDs to fall off, then I'll replace them :) But in the meantime I'll be shopping already! If anything exists to make this scooter more pimp, I need to have it!! But it's the extra visibility that really matters. Can't wait to try these out tomorrow night.
When they get hot, the LEDs don't fall off but just quit... one LED at a time.. My flat LEDs is more efficient because it has an aluminum casing that acts like a heat sink that absorbs and dissipates heat as you can see in the pic.