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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Super 8 150 => Topic started by: Areomyst on February 28, 2012, 02:50:55 PM
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Hi guys,
I'm doing a Honda Ruckus engine swap, and I've got a Super 8 150 engine and front wheel mounted in the bike. The project is a very long way from completion, but just for my own info I was wondering what kind of easy cruising speeds you get out of your Super 8 150. I assume that 55-60 is about on par? For this Ruckus project, I expect speeds a little higher since it's going to be on a much lighter and smaller frame.
Best,
~Josh
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Everyone talks about 75 mph top, and 50 cruise. STOCK!. There is an S8 150 here that does 85 w/ the regular mods...
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Can you post a Mock up Pict? I'm curious about the "scale". (engine size to frame)
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Can you post a Mock up Pict? I'm curious about the "scale". (engine size to frame)
(http://www.scooterinvasion.net/pics/phoenix000.JPG)
(http://www.scooterinvasion.net/pics/IMG_3413.JPG)
(http://www.scooterinvasion.net/pics/IMG_3414.JPG)
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I did not realize the rucus had dual rear shocks , unusual for a 50cc , but great for your application . Good luck .
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It doesn't. :) The frame has been custom welded to fit this engine, and the shockmounts are from Composimo. I think he might be a member here, but not sure. I need to have the shock mounts welded on amongst many many other things.
~Josh
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Now if you can find a Dwarf to ride it... The "scale" is a bit wacky but that will add alot of character. gonna be a cool scoot.
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It's real comfortable man. I plan on riding it out of state whenever I can. :)
Lots of people do these bikes. They're a fun platform to build from, because you can pretty much do whatever you want:
(http://www.golgo73.com/IMAGES/zoomer_ruckus_dec2008.jpg)
(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af281/RUCKSTERS_Customs/JL1.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oZedMLs1Ftg/TEfyLvEAh-I/AAAAAAAABbs/Ql2QeLGZShk/s1600/okazawa_z4_l.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iMk7gDl-9Js/Swnf4R4nszI/AAAAAAAACFY/2UQf5IBRnUo/s1600/130_0804_03_z%252525252Bhonda_ruckus%252525252Bmilitary_camo_design.jpg)
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Bad ass to the base of the bone! LUV those little F'ers. I see the one w/ the MRP case is a 150... NICE!
Every time I get my keyboard clean... New scoots to make it sticky.
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My Super 8 tops out at 60-65 on the speedo and cruises comfortable at around 50-53. Figure that the actual speeds are at least 5 mph less than that. The fact that the ruckus is lighter will not help top speed. It's all about the gearing. The motor could pull a higher speed with different gearing. If your ruckus has smaller wheels than the Super 8 it will have a lower top and cruising speed unless you find some way to changed the gearing.
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My Super 8 tops out at 60-65 on the speedo and cruises comfortable at around 50-53. Figure that the actual speeds are at least 5 mph less than that. The fact that the ruckus is lighter will not help top speed. It's all about the gearing. The motor could pull a higher speed with different gearing. If your ruckus has smaller wheels than the Super 8 it will have a lower top and cruising speed unless you find some way to changed the gearing.
The ruckus has Super 8 wheels and engine... Yes, I agree that it comes down to gearing, but acceleration should be better, and I would expect at least a slight increase in top speed as well. Thank you very much for your input here - it helps a lot as I intend to ride this a long ways at a time. 50-53 should be okay with me though I was hoping for a little higher. No worries there though, I can always give the engine a few tweaks.
~Josh
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Just a thought... I have a Hoca racing Var. / rollers, and a 2000 torque spring NIB.. I bought them for a 150 conversion (similar to yours) and decided not to get the engine. Pm me if you want them.
Turns out I am a 50cc Die Hard!
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Mine also tops 60-65 and it is a 125cc. One problem about our Super 8 is the air drag in the fairing that I think slows the scoot. Its the area behind the front suspension/front tire. The plastic cover has designs of slots but doesn't have slots.
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I agree the 150 CC version is capable of much more speed but I think its body panels create alot of drag I can feel that the bike wants to go maybe five MPH faster but something holds it back.
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I agree the 150 CC version is capable of much more speed but I think its body panels create alot of drag I can feel that the bike wants to go maybe five MPH faster but something holds it back.
Yup! it's the fairing that acts like a parachute.
(http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/kymco-super-8-125-2008/Kymco_Super_8_125_00.jpg)
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Hmm. I have had my Agility 125 for about 3 months. I was thinking about getting a Super 8 150, but based on this thread, I am thinking that I should stay with my Agility 125. Given that the Super 8 has 25 more ccs, should it not go 5 mph faster. What I was hoping that 60 mph (the top speed on my Agility 125) would be easier (lower RPM) on the Super 8 150.
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Now that my Super 8 150 is broken in I can normally get up to 60 mph WOT on level roads (I weigh about 200 lbs).
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Simply for perspective... I had a Yamaha 250, 2t, two cylinder street bike. I added two 24mm Mikuni's, and gutted the OEM pipes. That bike stock struggled to run at 70mph. After the mods I gained 8-10 mph.
So 60 is pretty darned good for a single Cyl. 150 4 stroke.
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Simply for perspective... I had a Yamaha 250, 2t, two cylinder street bike. I added two 24mm Mikuni's, and gutted the OEM pipes. That bike stock struggled to run at 70mph. After the mods I gained 8-10 mph.
So 60 is pretty darned good for a single Cyl. 150 4 stroke.
If you want more, get a Hayabusa!
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Yes, I think 60 mph (70 indicated) on my 125 (or on a Super 8 150) is very good. I may jump on a Super 8 if I notice another one coming availabe in my area. One showed up on Craigslist last week. It was $1200, and <500 miles. It was the mostly yellow, with some blue, model. My first impression, and my delay, was because, it was just too flashy/ie yellow for me. But in hindsite, I could have just changed plastics on part of it. I realy like the red/black Super 8. I also like the look of the Kymco Quannon 150, but I do not want to go motorcycle at this point. I want just the size of bike that I need for commuting, and I like the CVT for easy of operation.
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Never look at the color... PAINT/PAINT/PAINT. Same for women.
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Forgot...
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yes!!!! paint!!! paint those women!!!!
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4mPceSuW4VQ/TCHAOnvC-oI/AAAAAAAAAWI/Q-ULYPDd6dw/s400/Painted+Girls.jpg)
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Yeah. I get about 60 MPH on mine