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Title: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 03, 2012, 01:17:55 AM
..if any of you have read my latest "sister-sister" posts, you know nina is running pretty good, 40+ miles every day, and really performing nicely...

..oh, damn...knock on my wooden head...

                        :-\

..but i came across this malossi variator, spankin' new....

..thanx batman!...   :-*   love y' bro...


...well, i've always loved me some malossi on my guiltys, ssso today i decided to experiment with thissn on nina..



..it wassa good day....


..first pic of several is th malossi variator...

..its purrrrtyy...



peace
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 03, 2012, 01:20:39 AM
..the boss measures 37.5mm

..imma go ahead and try these 1 day old 4g dr pulley sliders that the naraku needed to keep nina in her powerband..
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 03, 2012, 01:22:05 AM
..ramp plates are distinctly different...
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 03, 2012, 01:22:55 AM
..a better representation...
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 03, 2012, 01:24:15 AM
..vari ramps are way different as well..
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 03, 2012, 01:25:06 AM
..a better representation....
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 03, 2012, 01:26:12 AM
..another..
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 03, 2012, 01:36:27 AM
...HOLY sh** BATMAN!!...

..the multivar with the naraku's 4g sliders netted 12,000 rpms (at least) at take-off!!!

..ran a quarter mile up and back, and could not throttle more than 1/2, just to keep rpms below 10,500...


                                      :-\


..scared th fuk outta my whitebread ass!!..

                                                           :o



...this is as far as the belt ever made it out the vari during that short run....
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 03, 2012, 01:51:03 AM
...threw in some 7.5g ninja sliders in place of the 4g dr ps..

...woww...

..the malossi would be optimum with 7g sliders, i do believe...

..was awesome  with the 7.5s till everything got warmed up..

..launching at 9200, and settling at 8700...right in the tech pipe's powerband...

..held there thru top speed on flat land, and still torqued forward into upper speeds..

..9600 at 60mph indicated...    :o

..ran thru town, and did a bunch of street turns...still jumping back to 9000+ at acceleration out offa turn...

...i think i'm finally getting the hang of this!!!



                          ;D
..and to think, i almost tried some 6gr sliders before the 7,5s..glad i didnt..   :o


i do have some new 7g malossi rollers....hmmmm...

..tomorrow, is another day...
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: Peters on July 03, 2012, 06:09:44 AM
Man  :o

I gotta do some cvt tuning  :-[
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: Vivo on July 03, 2012, 06:59:31 AM
I really wish we could have more sunny days here. I would love to do some mods.... We had a wet summer (March to May), now its rainy season again...geeez... :'( June to September....   

Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: thebatman on July 03, 2012, 11:21:13 AM
Dam i soooo behind... ::)
Luckily Word had me up to date on this ordeal..
The Naraku ramp plate looks similar to a plate i have with crazy ramp angles(compared to the malossi,venom,etc.)....hmmmmmm ??? ???
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: zombie on July 04, 2012, 05:01:24 AM
Nice thread. Good work...
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 04, 2012, 10:32:23 PM
..thanx z!    :D


..here's a pic of the malossi after 2 days riding...
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 04, 2012, 10:34:39 PM
..aannd the inner..
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 04, 2012, 10:35:23 PM
..the ramp plate..
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 04, 2012, 10:38:58 PM
...guess i'm getting senile, or maybe it was the bud lights..i dunno, but somehow.......the 6gs actually made it into the multivar the other night, not the 7.5s, aannd the 6gs actually weigh 6.2....


....ssssso......


..just put in some 5.7 g ninja sliders, and am fixin' to make a run....


dang
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 06, 2012, 12:42:03 AM
.finally odered me one of these..

                  ;)
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 06, 2012, 12:46:09 AM
..gonna try this belt...
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 06, 2012, 12:49:37 AM
..and maybe some of these...


     5grams..
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: zombie on July 06, 2012, 02:25:56 AM
.finally odered me one of these..

                  ;)

I've been looking at those... Lots of guys run that on the pulley side, and the Malossi on the clutch side. Figured Id wait till I am tuned to try one.
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 06, 2012, 11:44:31 PM
..i think it'll be an improvement, but might require vari tuning...

..expecting it to, anyway..lol..
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: zombie on July 07, 2012, 08:01:19 AM
I would think it should effect the weights from pre loading the spring more. You may have to go heavier a few .1g's
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 08, 2012, 05:38:33 AM
..yeah, and i got 2 belts coming..

..gates premium..

  732-18.5-28, and a 743-18-28....

..i've about burned my latest 729 up already...
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: zombie on July 09, 2012, 02:57:04 AM
Parts last alot longer when you dont ride. My belt is as good as the last day I rode it...
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 09, 2012, 03:00:01 AM
..yeah, mine too!!!

..that's the problem!!!   ;D


..belts and torque spring bearing base deliver tus..HiT clutch tomoro..


...yaayyyy..........
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: Areomyst on July 09, 2012, 04:11:36 AM
I have not had good luck with the Naraku pulleys at all.  They don't seem to last as long as the stock, though they do perform well enough in general. 

The Multivar is awesome!  Thanks for this good write up on your progress with it. 

I have tried the Gates belts, and the Malossi, and the Naraku.  I almost hate to say it, but I honest to goodness believe that for our Kymcos, the OEM Bando belt is the best out there. 

Keep up the good work dude!

~Josh
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 09, 2012, 04:14:38 AM
..i do like the bando...i've worn all mine out..lol..

..and i agree about the narakus...they perform, but don't have the stamina...

..stoked on the arrival of the dr p clutch!!...
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: zombie on July 09, 2012, 04:27:51 AM
"I have tried the Gates belts, and the Malossi, and the Naraku.  I almost hate to say it, but I honest to goodness believe that for our Kymcos, the OEM Bando belt is the best out there. "

I 100% agree with you. I've found if I can get a Malossi belt to last 1 year I have a pretty damn good set up. Once that one is replaced an OEM will last much longer. When things are wrong... Kevlar s explode! It's the Drama I like... You can get more torque from kevlar I believe. But that is uncertain to me. Just a butt dyno...
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: Peters on July 09, 2012, 04:40:59 AM
Explode?  :-\
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: zombie on July 09, 2012, 05:02:09 AM
My engines tend to get Filthy here in three days... You'll see. It's in the air~~~
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 09, 2012, 11:24:33 AM
Explode? 


..yes, they turn into chunks of rubber and a big ball of puff that gets into every nook and cranny of every component in your cvt....
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: zombie on July 09, 2012, 11:42:10 PM
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrBOOM r  rr rrrr r rr r rrrr r r r rssssssssssssssss!
Dramatic.
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 10, 2012, 12:44:16 AM
..makes a frikin MESS!!!..

..took me an hour just to get all the fluff out!!
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: Peters on July 10, 2012, 01:02:21 AM
Well damn... I have a gates kevlar that I still haven't used. Should have gone OEM  :-\
Title: Re: ..vari wars..malossi vs naraku..
Post by: wordslinger on July 10, 2012, 01:06:55 AM
..you'll get good performance out of it!!!..

..just don't abuse it like i tend to sometimes do...lol..