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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Super 8 150 => Topic started by: loganhes on April 12, 2013, 06:30:14 PM

Title: New Tires
Post by: loganhes on April 12, 2013, 06:30:14 PM
It is time for me to start thinking about replacement tires for my 2011 Super 8 150cc. However I am having a lot of trouble finding my size tires. My front is a 100/80-14 and the rear is a 120/80-14. I have looked all over the place. I was hoping to get a better quality than the OEM's. Has anyone fund a good source for these tires? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.


--Jim
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: Vivo on April 13, 2013, 01:41:16 AM
Get bigger tires... ;)  110 up front and 130 or 140 at the rear...

Tires with harder rubber compounds last long but slippery when wet, softer compounds last shorter but very good grip on any surface... 
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: ninja on April 13, 2013, 05:59:15 PM
I just bought a new 2013 Super8 150 and they now come stock with a 120/70 R14 front tire so you can probably go with this size which is widely available . Try these: Avon AM63 Viper Stryke , Michelin City Grip Scooter Tires, Michelin Gold Standard Scooter Tires, Pirelli Diablo Scooter tires, Shinko SR567.

I think the bigger problem would be finding a REAR tire in the correct 120/80 - 14 size. All of the tires I've seen of this size are FRONT tires, not rear(there is a difference).
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: Vivo on April 15, 2013, 01:25:20 AM
this is a 140/60/14 rear tire....




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Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: ninja on April 15, 2013, 02:25:37 AM
Vivo: Very nice. So this will fit on a stock rim with no modifications? That would be great because there are 140/60/14 rear scooter tires available.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: Vivo on April 15, 2013, 02:30:10 AM
Vivo: Very nice. So this will fit on a stock rim with no modifications? That would be great because there are 140/60/14 rear scooter tires available.

Yes, stock rims... ;)
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: loganhes on April 15, 2013, 01:58:02 PM
this is very good news...thank you very much!
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: loganhes on April 15, 2013, 02:09:16 PM
so if I go with a 140/60-14 size back tire, does that mean I would have to go with a 100/60-14 front tire instead of 100/80-14?
Doesn't the 60 indicate the sidewall height?


--Jim 
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: Vivo on April 16, 2013, 01:20:52 AM
so if I go with a 140/60-14 size back tire, does that mean I would have to go with a 100/60-14 front tire instead of 100/80-14?
Doesn't the 60 indicate the sidewall height?


--Jim

140/60/14   -    60% of 140 =  84     84mm is the sidewall height

100/80/14   -    80% of 100 = 80      80mm is the sidewall height
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: ninja on April 16, 2013, 01:54:28 AM
Vivo: using your analysis, the  stock front tire on the new Super8 150 is 120/70/14, so the sidewall height would be 70% of 120 = 84mm. Since 84mm is the height of the 140/60/14 rear, they would be the same height. Is that right?

     120/70/14 front :  70% of 120 = 84mm sidewall height
     140/60/14 rear :   60% of 140 = 84mm sidewall height
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: Vivo on April 16, 2013, 01:59:01 AM
Vivo: using your analysis, the  stock front tire on the new Super8 150 is 120/70/14, so the sidewall height would be 70% of 120 = 84mm. Since 84mm is the height of the 140/60/14 rear, they would be the same height. Is that right?

     120/70/14 front :  70% of 120 = 84mm sidewall height
     140/60/14 rear :   60% of 140 = 84mm sidewall height

Yes, that is correct
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: ninja on April 16, 2013, 02:09:48 AM
Thank you.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: Vivo on April 16, 2013, 02:19:13 AM
You're welcome.... also take note that the size of the tire differs when laden, meaning mounted and on the ground.   These figures are for unladen tires. 
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: ninja on April 16, 2013, 03:39:04 PM
Vivo: are you presently running the 120/70 front and 140/60 rear combination on your Super8 and if so how does it compare to the stock setup? What brand tire are you using? Thanks.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: MassScoot on April 16, 2013, 04:22:30 PM
I think Vivo uses the same CST stock tires as I do @ this point. I'll let him follow-up.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: Vivo on April 17, 2013, 01:13:36 AM
Still using the stock tires until summer ends... will be changing around June or July... rainy season.

Two years with the stock tires and quite satisfied with them... I just adjust my riding attitude in the rain and slippery roads...

Regarding the brand of tires, we have different brands here compared to the U.S. and Europe...well except for the more popular ones like Pirelli, Michelin, etc.  there are Indonesian, Thai, Chinese brands that are not sold in other countries.   These are cheaper and comparable to expensive brands. Examples are Corsa, Swallow, Mizzle brands
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: scolburn79 on April 17, 2013, 09:05:39 AM
I have just put a new set of pirelli diablos on my scoot and all I can say is awesome. Tyres grip like anything and makethe bike tip into the corners. After alot of calculating I found, as the come now, the 120/7014 on the front and 140/70 14 on the rear are the same rolling diameter or very close to the stock 100/80 14 fronts and 120/80 14 rears.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: ninja on April 21, 2013, 04:40:21 AM
Will it fit w/o modifications or do you need to remove the rear hugger for the rear 140/70 14 tire to fit?
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: Vivo on April 24, 2013, 05:52:54 AM
You can remove the rear hugger or modify the bracket to move it up a bit.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: ninja on April 27, 2013, 06:05:50 AM
Vivo: Do you have an opinion about the pros/cons of the two rear tire sizes 140/70 14 vs 140/60/14?
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: Vivo on April 27, 2013, 07:23:26 AM
Vivo: Do you have an opinion about the pros/cons of the two rear tire sizes 140/70 14 vs 140/60/14?

The 70 series tire is taller and affects ride quality...ride is harsher... Taller also increases your braking distance because more force is needed to stop a tire with bigger radius.  Taller tire also means poor acceleration... However, taller tires give better mileage but poor handling...  I would go for a wider and and lower tire.... they look cooler... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: ninja on April 27, 2013, 02:48:41 PM
Thanks for your insight Vivo.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: Vivo on April 29, 2013, 01:30:46 AM
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