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Super 9 / Re: Anybody know if this CDI fits my Kymco Super 9 Ac 2001 ?
« on: October 12, 2011, 02:40:22 AM »
Hi,
  Just rebuilt a S9. lots of crossover chinese parts will work.  The key is to look for GY6 parts.
Take a look at this site:
http://www.scrappydogscooters.com/Replacement_Parts.html

They are good people. I bought some stuff from them  and the shipping was fast. Their part is only $10 plus shipping

 They also have an Ebay store too
 http://motors.shop.ebay.com/scrappydogscooters/m.html?item=270545817327&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649&_trksid=p4340.l2562

Part is $14 with shipping on ebay. They have a "Performance" one for $29 but i think they are all the same.
I am too scared to order from China I try to buy in the US. Not much price diff but who wants to wait 2 or 3 weeks to get a part.

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Super 9 / Re: Please help me choose!
« on: October 12, 2011, 02:20:53 AM »
First thing I would do is check compression. Mine only had 90, it ran, but was weak. Should have like 130 or 140. New piston and rings and it runs great.  Good luck, super 9's LC 's are  great scooters. 

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Super 9 / Re: need help with tuning
« on: October 03, 2011, 02:47:52 PM »
The spi-parts.com guy is in CA, not in Europe. Retail is a little pricey but I got a pretty good deal on what I got.

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Super 9 / Re: need help with tuning
« on: October 02, 2011, 02:07:04 PM »
Glad to hear it. My Kymco is running great. Just found out my nephew is in jail. He sold guns to a "buddy" and it came back a year later to bite him in the ass. ATF agents at the door.
  Wifes Scarabeo did not run too good. Lost power and top end. I need to do a compression test. I think it has low compression and is too weak to push the heavy springs. Dragster still waiting on parts. Made a new connection for parts last week. Called Polini USA to ask questions. They run a online store called  spi-parts.com. When I told the guy who I was, he hooked me up with a " Industry guy discount". Check them out if you need anything let me know

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Super 9 / Re: need help with tuning
« on: September 25, 2011, 03:11:29 AM »
I have used those cone filters before and they can make it tricky for tuning. I have used the foam UNI style on a few bikes and they seem better but it's hard to beat the stock box. You can modify them but making some cut outs. Mary sell some one inch type that you drill a hole and punch them in the hole to flow more air. My son and I do some mini road racing with the South East Mini road group .We have several bikes from a stock TTR90 to a heavaly modded one. I have a ttr125 with a 170 kit as well as a 106 based XR50. Lot of carbs to tinker with.
   I saw several Euro sites to order from but  the deal is 98% on all parts for thr Dragster are Manerilli based. With the Morini motor I'm told that I need to order engine parts for the Italjet formula 50 LC. To add to the confussion more some parts say to the 10mm wrist pin while others say there is a 12m pin version. I like to have my parts on hand but I'm hesitant to order until I tear it down. The big bore 70 Malossi kit is calling my name.
   My wife does not know about the Dragster yet. She looked at it but did not know it was new to me. I thought about a trade on your SR but the Kymco was supposed to be a beater for my nephew. He is a destroyer and I needed a cheap scoot. I did not know I would have to rebuild the whole thing. I got it cheap enough at least I know what's been done and it should last him a while. It was a learning experience, my buddy and I have learned a lot and it makes it easier to get my own fleet dialed in.
   In the end I changed the belt to the right sized one and I used a variator Kit and complete clutch meant for a GY6 based 50 4 stroke.( Off Ebay ) Then added the 1500 RPM contrast spring and 2000 RPM clutch springs with 7 gm roller weights. I went with a stock Kymco piston and rings, added the Leo Vince tt pipe. We cut out a chunk of the inside of the air box to increase flow and never touched the carb other that to turn the air screw to 1.5 out. It runs great, plug is like the color of hot chocolate.
My SR will be next. It runs so good I hate to touch it. I have a new Leo Vince pipe also but now I have a Giannelli on it now. It hard to change anything on it, ( But I will ). I think it needs the heavier conta and clutch springs. I runs good but will loose speed on a long incline. I work from home most of this week maybe we can get  a ride in depending on how much free time I can get .
   

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Super 9 / Re: need help with tuning
« on: September 24, 2011, 02:34:18 PM »
Saw your Sr50 on craigslist. Looks pretty good.

 I got the 1500 contra spring,  7 gm roller weights and went with 2000 red clutch springs. The S9 is running strong. Speedometer is buried at 50. Pulls hills great. The slow take off seems improved. It's ridable now. It seems to run better the more I ride it. I was going to look at the jeting but it runs great and the plug looks good. As far as I know the carb is stock but maybe the original owner did some mods. It did have the stock exhaust on it though. Have you found any better air filter beside the stock one for performance. You never let me know, do you still have the stock airbox on yours?
 I'll keep riding it, I may go to Mary and get some jets. All that's left is to change the rear tire. I got a deal at the distributor I visited last week. If my nephew does not get his act together and come up with $150 to make it legal in Florida I may sell it. I'll give him a until I go down for bike week.
   The Dragster only has 90 lbs of compression. I'll be doing a top end on it. Morini motor is very hard to find parts for. I'll have to order from England. Piston and gasket will be about $120 or Malossi 70 big bore kit is about $300. I'll have to se if I can get a dealer to get me the good guy price. 

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Super 9 / Re: need help with tuning
« on: September 18, 2011, 03:11:57 PM »
I wasn't looking for a scooter but when I was there looking for a part I saw it. Always thought they were cool. It was not the copper one. It was red, story was it was traded in and the son in law bought it but then decided to sell it. I grabed it because I thought it would not last long at $600. I offered $500 and the took it. Then I did research and found out after the deal was done was that they come with 2 different motors, One a minarelli that there are a million parts for and a Morini that there is very little for. When I picked it up the next day sure as sh** it was the Morini motor. I was a little disapointed but it still run great and it very trick looking. I'll use it when I travel to races and events and not beat my Aprilia to death. In a couple of years I'll give it to my kid. He's 13 and has his eye on it
   I was told the 90PSI in marginal and it will run but not well, no power, It is supposed to have like 140 PSI. I bought a Kymco piston from Dal-Kaw because I wanted the part that day. What a rip off. My buddy broke the ring when going back together. Dal wanted $40 for just the ring, I refused to do business with Dal-Kaw, I found these guys on line
http://www.partspitstop.com/pages/OemParts?aribrand=KYM They have a micro fisch to look up parts and the price was almost half of the pirate. They shipped it to me in 3 days. I would buy from them again. If I had to do it again I would buy one for $20 off  ebay. I had about $140 in the Kymco one.
   I do not think my issue is with the carb, it runs too good, it's got the be tuning the CVT. It's ridable now but I think it can be better. I just did the variator, belt and clutch torque spring(1500) on my wifes Aprilia Scarabeo yesterday.  It pulls great. I need to take it for a longer test ride.  Before it ran great but would slow down from 50MPH to about 25 on a long hill I use as a test ride. I hope the stonger spring will help.
  I'm going to order the 1500 torque and clutch spings for the Kymco and then I'm done with it.

 
 

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Super 9 / Re: What tipe of engine?
« on: September 17, 2011, 01:22:32 PM »
It's bases off a Honda / Kymco design called the DIO.
Here is a link to a parts and info site. The Teck with Mo has some good info on cross over parts.
http://www.scrappydogscooters.com/Honda_Dio_Elite_Daelim.html
Good luck.

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Super 9 / Re: need help with tuning
« on: September 17, 2011, 01:12:35 PM »
What's up,  Any luck on your carb? I had to travel for work to Mass and PA. I was waiting on parts to come in for the Kymco. In the mean time I bought an Italjet Dragster from Charlie on Haywood road. It's bad to the bone. Got the right belt from Mary and a new vatiator for the super 9, I bought a chinese gy6 for $20 of ebay. Everything is back together now. Used the 6gm weights that came with the Leo Vince pipe for a starting point. Runs much better. It will pull off and run now. Top end is great acceleration is great. Only small thing I noticed was when you crack the throttle it moves and takes off but it seems like it take a few seconds, too long for me,  for it to switch to the higher gear and really take off. Any ideas? From my research it seems the GY6 139 style clutch that I used comes with a 1000 rpm spring. Everything is stock on the super but the new pipe. When I used the lighter rollers it seemed like it let the engines RPM's rev higher 12K vs 9.5K. In the end I will give this scooter to me nephew. He is a dystroyer and if it revs too high he will blow it up. I'm thinking stronger clutch springs but my mechanic says give it time and ride it. I only did a quick test ride up and down the street. 

On your scoot, there a alot of parts out there on ebay that are cheap. If theres no compression, like my Kymco ( 90 PSI ) when I bought it from my buddy, you can just do the piston and rings. Check out this link, http://www.scrappydogscooters.com/Replacement_Parts.html  Lots of info on coversion parts. I also have a sourse for OEM Kymco parts so you do not have to go to the pirate in Hendersonville.  But Kymco is proud of there stuff pricewise.
 
 

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Super 9 / Re: need help with tuning
« on: September 04, 2011, 01:38:26 AM »
I hear ya on the abitity of the shops. He should have know that you can mill the head down and increase compression the trick is to not let the piston hit the head. Carbs are pretty simple as long as nothing is broken. I have not been into mine on the super 9  but if there is a diphram you need to check it closely. even a pin hole will throw everything off and make it impossible to tune. The 35 PJ seems big. The pilot only controlls the idle and closed throttle once you open the throttle everything goes to the main. I've raced and tuned on carbs for years.
Normally the way to check if the pilot is the right size is to have the bike running at idle then turn the air screw in. If the motor dies when you get it turned in it's right. If the motor keeps running then the PJ is too big. In the end you want the motor to idle smooth at about 1.5 to 2 turns out. That gives you a little adjustability, in makes it richer less air. Out makes it leaner more air. When you turn it in do not turn too tight. Just barely snug it. Are there adjustments on the needle? Slots with a clip. You can change the position to richen or lean it before you change the Main jet sizedropping the clip makes it richer raising the clip makes it leaner Do you still have the stock breather and filter or do you have an after market pod?
  

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Super 9 / Re: need help with tuning
« on: September 03, 2011, 01:06:03 PM »
I'm worried now that I have switch to the chinese GY6 parts the Kymco sized belt won't work.I am concerned with the lengths. Stock is 748mm and most of the chinese with 12" wheels use a 729mm
( maybe the pulleys are a different size because the Motors are the same) Maybe i'm worried for nothing. Parts are on the way. I'll know next week. It looks like the weights controll the RPMs, the 5's let it rev to high IMO. If I send it to my nephew with it reving to 12 to 13K RPMs he will blow it up. The 6's let it rev to about 10.5K, wihich is still above red line but feels safer to me for him. With the 8.5 stock ones it only reved to about 8.5 or 9K which was at or below red line. It looks like 6 or 7's will be what I want. I have delt with both shops on Haywood. They are owned by brothers. Both have treated me well. It depends on who has the part I need. Of the two I think C & J's, has been most helpful on questions and helping with used parts if he has them. When I'm in a bind and need something ASAP I will go to C&J first. Charley the old guy is the one I deal with. I have never had them work on anything. I am usually trying to use my connections to get deals or order myself off ebay and I have a buddy who is a decent mechanic. Mary at City foreign on Merrimon is a great source too but she leaves the hard core scooter stuff to the others. I'll post up after the parts are on. If I can get it to take off I'll be happy, the top end is runnig great. I've gone to the one in Marvin Hills, they were useless.

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Super 9 / Re: need help with tuning
« on: September 03, 2011, 02:49:39 AM »
Hey batman,
  Well got the GY6 genric compete clutch  and hub bell here locally. The Stock one looked well worn and pretty thin, the bell hub was very blue and looked like it had been very hot. We swapped eveything and put it back with the 743X20X30 belt. Still no luck. It runs great and pulls hills good but will not take off at all. Tried the 5 GM weights still no luck. I'm going to order the right belt next. Getting ready to replace the front variator with a new GY6 kit. When I  replace the front variator with a generic  GY6 kit will I use the stock sized belt for the Kymco 748 X 18 X 28 or do I need to get the belt meant for the GY6?  If I need to use a different sized belt which one? 729 X 17.7 X 30? I was in a hurry to get this done. I wish I had used Kymco parts now but I was trying to save money. I'm giving this to my nephew and was trying to not spend to much or make it too unreliable. He is hard on stuff.
My SR is a 2004 ditech. I really like it.
 I sent a message to http://www.scrappydogscooters.com/Tech_Talk_with_Mo_.html. I'll let you know if he responds. Thanks for the help.

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Super 9 / Re: drive belt - kymco super 9 ( dimensions )
« on: September 02, 2011, 12:23:46 AM »
Hi
 I know this is an old post but I'm having trouble tuning my 2004 super 9 lc.
The previous owner replaced the belt just before I got it. He used a 743X20X30 bought from a local shop. Does the difference in belt size cause the scoot to have take off problems. Runs great once the RPMs get higher and pulls hills good, but take off from a stop sucks. It will not pull off. So far I have changed the rollers and a new clutch today but still no good. The clutch has the stock springs both clutch and contrast. Any suggestions? I'm baffeled.
Thanks, Ken

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Super 9 / Re: need help with tuning
« on: September 01, 2011, 12:28:36 PM »
I did try staggering them in many confgiurations. Nothing seemed to help. I'm thinking it may be the clutch and or the springs being wore out. I owned this scooter a few years ago and sold it to a buddy. He put 5000 hard miles on it. When I got it back it had 90 lbs of compression and was hardly running. He used it alot and rode it two up alot. When we changed the rollers we did not take the clutch apart to inspect. I guess thats my next move. I'll check with some of the locals first to see what parts are here before ordering off ebay from Tiawan. I have an Aprillia SR50 that runs great. I bought a Leo vince pipe for that one too. I've got a buddy that works there and got a smoken deal, but I'm afraid to change anything cause it runs go good. I'll let you know what happens.

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Super 9 / Re: need help with tuning
« on: August 31, 2011, 03:42:25 PM »
Thebatman, just noticed your from Asheville. Me to. Saw your post about clutch springs and contra spring on another forum  "Oh yeah, I had use 1500 and 2000 clutch springs on my zx when it was modded stock. the 1500 with a 1000 contra should be good...(then jet the carb. )"

Do you have any of the clutch springs laying around? I'm trying to get the scooter done ASAP.
Thanks

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