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Hey VIVO, thanks for the info.

The thing is that the bike is brand new 2013. Problem started occurring about 4 months after I got the bike. The initial symptom was the relay continuing to run even with the ignition key out keeping the engine running, which I believe is the evidence that it is the relay. I would have to disconnect the relay to get the engine to shutdown.

But here's the weird thing. Today, I disconnected and reconnected the wires running from the battery to the relay. Nothing much was happening. Again, disconnected the wires from battery to relay, and then I just jiggled the wire running from the relay to the starter to make sure everything is tight and sitting properly, and then I reconnected the wires running from the battery to the relay. Now everything works fine. Will start with electric switch or by kick. No problems now. I just can't figure out what the real problem is. It has been working fine all day.

About 2 months ago, I had 2 technicians look at it. One guy said it was the grounding. He did what ever he did (I wasn't paying attention) and the bike worked for about 1 month. Then same problem occurred. 2nd guy said it was in the starter switch, which he disassembled and there was evidence of green acid build up and arcing, something similar to what would be on a battery terminal. He said that the connectors were out of place and the acid was helping to keep the flow of the circuit going which was causing the engine to not shutdown. So he cleaned the switch and everything was fine for about a month. Now same problem. But as you said, the best guess would be the relay itself. I just cannot figure out why it works now....humm.....

Thanks VIVO & PETERS.

I had forgotten to mention that my kick starter does nothing as well. I could start the engine by disconnecting and then reconnecting the relay, and then drive to the servicing center. I just wouldn't want to waste my time for them to tell me that I need a new relay, and then I would have to purchase one and return to the servicing.

But I guess I will have to buy a new one anyway. I was just wondering if anyone could confirm that it was the relay based on the reconnecting of the relay and its ability to start that way.

But thanks again guys.

Hey guys, sorry if I am posting in the wrong section, but couldn't find the 125cc section. 

I am someone with only some basic knowledge of scooters and I have tried to find a direction as to my problem.

I have the basic instructions on how to test a starter relay for problems, but I do not have a voltage tester, nor the time or experience to disassemble the wiring to check for grounding problems.

My basic symptoms are: with key in ignition, lights will go on, but no crank on the starter, no clicking, absolutely no sounds. When I disconnect the 2 connectors on the starter relay and then reconnect again, ignition and engine will start and everything works fine. I have read in the service manual that when checking for starter relay problems, you are suppose to check the voltage between the connectors, and you should also check the grounding from the starter relay, both of which I do not want to do myself.

I was just wondering if the disconnecting and reconnecting of the starter relay connectors and its ability to start after that, gives anyone any good ideas as to what my problem is.

The reason I am asking is that I am in the Philippines and none of the Kymco servicing centers in my area carry a starter relay. I have to purchase one from a main supplier and have a local servicing center install it. I don't want to have to initially take the scooter to a local servicing center for testing due to the probable event of the vehicle not being able to restart once I am there. I would rather have the new starter relay in hand before bringing to servicing.

Appreciate any help or comments.

Thanks.