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Technical | How To / Re: Adding LED lights to my Kymco
« on: February 08, 2021, 02:58:25 PM »
Thanks. Yeah, I'm sure they can.... :)

Next, is changing the headlight to LED, then (re)connecting the 2 position lights, the upper corners of the headlight housing. Not sure why they were not connected for US scooters... Maybe blue LED for those?

And LEDs on the tail lights too. Maybe even different rear turn signal housings...

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Technical | How To / Re: Adding LED lights to my Kymco
« on: February 06, 2021, 01:38:25 AM »
now we've got to see pictures of your scoot all lit up!...and $20 for aluminum cased, led driving lights? Can't argue with that!
Yeah, not a bad deal. :)
As requested, here is a link to some pics. Didn't feel like shrinking them to fit: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ati4UeWxkn2YguR7f14NVt2hVZAs9w?e=FWXrfS

There are the handguards the I'm using:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017IMZMLE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Technical | How To / Re: Adding LED lights to my Kymco
« on: February 03, 2021, 11:41:37 PM »
So, finally got them all hooked up...

The Purishion LED running light/turn signal - Connected the running light to the black wire that feeds the horn button. They are on even when the motor is not running. No big deal, being only1 or 2 watts. Also serves as a reminder if I leave the key in the On position. :)

I also have a pair of 12 watt driving lights. Those are wired to the blue/white wire that feeds the headlight switch. What's interesting is these don't flicker like the running lights did (when connected to this blue/white wire). Some magic voodoo in the LED circuit for them, I guess... Thse only work when the motor is running...

Here are the driving lights I got:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MCWMK9G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Technical | How To / Re: Adding LED lights to my Kymco
« on: January 28, 2021, 01:00:30 AM »
There is a module in my Super 8 that lowers the power to the headlight at idle...
KK - I think you're referring to the lighting control module, which is responsible for lowering the headlight output at idle...
Interesting... I wonder why they do that?

I still think the OP needs to find a spot to tap into keyed power on his 50cc scoot. Doesn't seem like a big challenge...or is it?
Nah, easy to do. Just tap off the black wire... Was hoping to have them on only with the motor, but that's picking nits. :)

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Technical | How To / Re: Adding LED lights to my Kymco
« on: January 27, 2021, 11:24:44 PM »
That should work. You still might be able to make it work.  As long as you can keep the draw the same.  If your scooter uses regular bulbs in the tail light and headlight you may be able to replace with led bulbs with less draw.  Example if your headlight is 20 watt draw look for a 15 watt led or tail light 10 watt draw look for a 5 watt led which would give you 10 watts to work with...

So, I disconnected the headlight, connected the running light LEDs to the white/blue wire that feeds the headlight switch..
And still get the strobe/flicker effect. About the same rate too.

So, it seems that it's not due to the amount of power form the stator. Maybe something about the quality of it?

I attached the wiring diagram that I'm working from, if you're curious. It's from an Agility 50/125 service manual.
What I can't determine is the charging circuit part...

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Technical | How To / Re: Adding LED lights to my Kymco
« on: January 27, 2021, 04:49:36 PM »
I've always thought you can't (or shouldn't) connect anything that needs power to the headlight power source because of the peculiar way many of our scoots dim the headlights at lower rpm's.
I've never heard that, but it goes to Kansas kymco's point about stator output....

So with that option not available, I guess the question is what's a good source to tap into for power? On my S200 I have an under seat 12v power outlet...
From what I understand, there are only 2 real choices - Battery or the stator

Woyciesjes - do you have a similar 12v power outlet under your seat that you could tap into?
Nope, my Agility 50 isn't that fancy....

Brings up a valid point if Woyciesjes is set up to dim the light ...
I'll have to see if my headlight dims when RPMs go low. The way I understand DC electrical, if the lights dim at low RPM, it's not designed that way, it's just that the stator is not putting out enough juice...

My questions is, are the light circuit & charging circuits from the stator separate? I would think so....
In other words, I think  the only thing the battery does is start the scooter, horn, turn & brake lights (whatever works when it's switched on but not running)

My take---why would anybody want to add lites to Kymco scooter?---just something else to go wrong when you are in the middle of nowhere---Kymco had the original stuff pretty well figured out and reliable/legal.
Why? Because.

;)

Better light output, less power draw so you can add more lights for decoration.

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Technical | How To / Re: Adding LED lights to my Kymco
« on: January 27, 2021, 02:19:18 AM »
Kansas - Good question. I bet not much. These are what I got: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01L8YZ0GU/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1

So, a simple way to check that would be to unplug the headlight, and see how they react, right?

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Technical | How To / Re: Adding LED lights to my Kymco
« on: January 27, 2021, 01:33:02 AM »
Status Update:
Got the GTSpeed blinker relay from Amazon. Of course, had to clip off the connector but now my signals blink at a normal rate. This relay doesn't have the loud {click} when it's on, though. I kind of like that reminder...

As for the running lights, I tried using the White/blue wire that feeds the headlight dimmer switch, and the LEDs still flicker. I watched closer this time, and the rate does seems to increase with the RPMs. At idle, only a couple of the LEDs light up. To my uneducated-as-an-electrician, it seems like the stator/generator/alternator/whateveritis is not putting out enough juice.

But when I connect the LEDs direct to battery, they light up just dandy. And yes, the same ground the whole time.

I was hoping to have the running lights on only when the motor is; but I may just have to connect to the switched wire that the horn uses.

Thoughts?

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Technical | How To / Re: Adding LED lights to my Kymco
« on: January 23, 2021, 12:31:36 AM »
Iahawk - Thanks, kinda what I figured. Any recommendation, or is the GTSpeed I noted above probably a good one?

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Technical | How To / Re: Adding LED lights to my Kymco
« on: January 22, 2021, 07:37:01 PM »
So, I found these 3 relays... Anyone used these? The first two, which are 3 pin, I assume I can just replace the existing relay, even though the rear blinkers are still the original incandescent bulbs?

The third one is just a 2 pin, I suspect I'd need to leave the original blinker relay for the rear, and this on just the front? Of course, I saw one or two comments around that 3 pin relays are more reliable?

GTSpeed Universal 3 Pin LED Flasher Relay Flash Rate Control Fix
https://www.amazon.com/GTSpeed-Universal-Flasher-Control-Motorcycle/dp/B009T2YSAI/ref=pd_all_pref_n_5?pd_rd_w=WRnGq&pf_rd_p=36d0712f-e8f6-49f0-8101-fe2ba60e1597&pf_rd_r=AVRC6SWTK17NMCCSRNXV&pd_rd_r=ad008ee3-97b8-4445-ad3b-7a1692df4f7e&pd_rd_wg=t7iNw&pd_rd_i=B009T2YSAI&psc=1

Motorcycle Signal Flasher, 3 Pins Round Turn Signal Flasher Relay Blinker for GY6 50-250cc Motorcycles Scooters Moped ATV
https://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Flasher-50-250cc-Motorcycles-Scooters/dp/B07NYYSLVN/ref=sr_1_41?dchild=1&keywords=led+blinker+relay&qid=1611341880&rnid=2941120011&s=automotive&sr=1-41

AUDEW 2-Pin Electronic Turn Signal Flasher Relay Fix Motorcycle Turn Signal Hyper Flash
https://www.amazon.com/Audew-Electronic-Signal-Flasher-Motorcycle/dp/B011BTMDQM/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=led+blinker+relay&qid=1611341222&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&smid=AKNUSI5SDKOF5&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExMEVOQTZLMTlSMjlOJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDE5NjA0MllWUTBPQktSQTczQSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMTM1NzYyMlJaU1k0SklLWFJDVCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

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Technical | How To / Re: Adding LED lights to my Kymco
« on: January 22, 2021, 03:24:48 PM »
Thanks. Do you have a recommendation (or two) for an LED flasher relay? I see many notes warning about the resistors getting hot, but they shouldn't get too bad, since blinkers are used constantly. :)
The rear blinkers are still incandescent (for now?) I'll have to unplug the LEDs to see if they still blink normally.

White running lights - thanks. Looks like I'll need to test having them go straight to the battery; then off the headlight wire...
If they are fine off the battery, but not the headlight, I could run it through a relay, so I don't have to use a switch that I might forget about. :) Right?

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Technical | How To / Adding LED lights to my Kymco
« on: January 22, 2021, 03:05:16 AM »
I picked up a pair of LED strip lights - White & Amber - for my Kymco. I wired the amber to the front blinker wires. Since I had incandescent, they hyper-flash, no surprise. Looks like I need resistors, 50W 6Ohm load resistors...

What I can't figure is the white LEDs. I want those as running lights, so I connected the hot for those to the hot wire for one of the dashboard bulbs. When the scooter is running, the white lights flicker, or more like strobe. Any ideas?



Here are the LED strips I got:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01L8YZ0GU/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Agility 50 / Re: 150cc carb on a 50cc scooter
« on: July 17, 2019, 06:26:42 PM »
Don't.

Go to MonsterScooterParts. Look up parts by scooter type/model. They have a carb that will fit right & work a bit better than the original.

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Agility 50 / Re: 2010 agility starter
« on: June 13, 2019, 03:19:37 AM »
Sounds like either the electric hoke is bad, carb needs cleaning, or both.


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Agility 50 / Re: 2010 agility starter
« on: June 12, 2019, 03:36:42 AM »
Yep, that’s it. If you haven’t dug in to it yet, you will need to take all of the body plastic off. And take notes/pictures of wire routing.

I had my carb out at the time ( put in the 19mm one from Monster) and it seemed to help with dealing woth the starter.

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