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General Discussion / Re: Cheap Chinese Scooters?
« on: January 08, 2021, 10:25:47 AM »
Looks to me like stuff original manufacturered by Znen (Zhongneng) and potentially Jiajue.

We don't get these in the UK anymore; they were finished off by Euro 4 emissions standards.

So I rode cheap Chinese scooters for most of my 20s that I bought off eBay with short MOTs in rough conditions. On the whole, I did fantastically well with them.

GY6 motors are fairly bombproof. Change the oil, set the tappets (they're almost always too tight from factory) and it's a very easy unit to work on, and cheap to replace bits if anything goes wrong.

Plastics are usually less hardy than Japanese equivalents, but if you don't fall off they are fine, and they are, again, cheap to replace.

Chinese scooters get a bad rep generally because people pay little for them, treat them badly, then are surprised when they fail.

If you buy one, look after it and keep on top of any problems, they're probably the cheapest motoring money can buy. Yeah, they aren't as good as a Japanese equivalent, we all know that. But are they half as good, when they are half the price? I don't believe the differential is the same.

My Chinese motors;

~ Baotian BT49QT-9 (Pulse Scout) - had three of these at various points. All under £100, all ran lovely, one of them I couriered with for a winter. Minimal problems, very cheap spares.
~ Lexmoto Gladiator (Sanben SB125T-23) - Bought for £180, put 10,000 miles on it in a year before the cam chain snapped on the dual carraigeway. Could have fixed it for £40, but lacked the knowhow at that point.
~ Zhongyu ZY125-2 - Looked like a Suzuki GS125, but with a CG125 clone engine. it was basic, but it soldiered on for a couple of years and got me through a very financially difficult point in my life. High miles, rattled like a paint can full of spanners, but never broke down.
~ Yiben YB49QT-11 - Little retro scooter. Again, bought for £100 and it was like a sewing machine. Shouldn't have sold it.

There's probably a handful more, but my memory is getting more ropy. Basically, look after them and they'll look after you.

Both the worst bikes I've ever owned have been 90's Yamahas.

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General Discussion / Re: Riding Philosophy
« on: January 07, 2021, 11:50:07 AM »
Increasingly I'm realising that my hips don't like bikes anymore, and I'm only in my thirties.

Using the C70 and the Melody (Spree) around the local estates and lanes is enough for me now :)

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General Discussion / Re: What are you doing over the winter?
« on: January 07, 2021, 11:48:00 AM »
Working on my second Honda Melody project (whooop) and recomissioning the C70 after it caught fire last summer.

Renovating the house as well. That's a never-ending thing, it's a dump.

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Have you every thought of doing a old Lambretta or Vespa? Over here restored older models go for some serious money.  I know a retired Machinist that restores old Cushman scooter's for a hobby.

I still have my project People 250S that I have not had time to mess with.

They're really not my thing and I'd never have the cash to get one in the first place. I am a sucker for 80's jap scooters though.

I was offered a Vespa Cosa in a swap some years ago; I regret not taking it.

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OK! If there's interest, I'm starting another one next year so I can do a resto thread here :)

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General Discussion / Re: Looking for sympathy....
« on: December 14, 2020, 10:14:10 AM »
That's bad news; glad the bike's OK.

Quite rare to hear of a handbrake failure nowadays!

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I've rebuilt a Honda Melody moped from scratch this year; combination of boredom and some pointless desire to prove that I could do it. Lot of painting and a lot of replacing duff 40 year old parts.

Honda Spree, for those of you over the big pond.

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General Discussion / Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
« on: December 07, 2020, 12:29:42 PM »
I beleive the only two Kymco's that have carburetors are the agilities 50 and 125 sold in the US.  Lots of cheap Chinese scooters still have carburetors. 

Is it  mandatory they have FI in the UK?

By proxy; it's impossible to meet Euro standards on anything but a 50cc without fuel injection.

I'm all in favour; all the fuel injections fitted to most of Chinese stuff are Bosch, Denso or Delphi so it's decent quality.

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Kymco News / Re: So, when will we hear about 2021 models?
« on: November 27, 2020, 08:50:03 AM »
Big shakeups at a lot of dealerships as a result of Covid-19 I think?  We have seen the liquidation of one small (Kymco among others) family dealership near us that was founded between the wars!  Sad to see an old shop like this fold, but I only hope it means a realignment rather than another nail in the coffin of 2-wheeler owner and ridership.

There's a new dealer down in Stafford that's just taken Kymco on. Can't for the life of me remember who it is

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General Discussion / Re: Unrealistic expectations
« on: November 27, 2020, 08:33:52 AM »
I had no idea these scooters would run for as many miles as they do.  I purchased a People 250 for parts for $200. It shows 65,000 kilometers on the odometer.   Imagine my surprise when I got it home and found it started and drove.

I had a couple of scooters like that in my early 20s. In particular, a Lexmoto Gladiator that I bought for £180 with nearly 40,000 miles on the clock.

I had another 5000 good miles out of that before the cam chain went PING.

30 year old me would have patched it up, but 23 year old me didn't know how at that point. Shame, as it would have been a £30 repair.

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General Discussion / Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
« on: November 27, 2020, 08:20:56 AM »
Everything in this country has fuel injection now :)

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General Discussion / Re: Anyone traveling for Thanksgiving?
« on: November 19, 2020, 02:13:35 PM »
I'm not really going anywhere at the moment, but we have a national lockdown in the UK and there's no November holidays.

Two sets of neighbours have had the 'roro now. Mentally it's a lot harder at this time of year than it was in the spring.

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General Discussion / Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
« on: November 19, 2020, 02:10:14 PM »
I see quite a lot of these in the UK now but know nothing about them. If they are in indeed Sym-based that's a good mark of quality in my book :)

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I don't hanker after bad weather riding anymore at all.

When I was delivering pizzas etc (Deliveroo, 2015-2018) I was a bit of a sadist for it; the filthier the evening, the less riders would actually turn up and less people would go out, so the money was always silly on those evenings. Wet and windy evenings always made for the best tips too.

You would only admit defeat if you got to the point where it was no longer possible to get your soaking wet gloves on and off!

The hairiest couple of shifts I did, it must have been the winter of 15/16; I had my (must have only been a month or two old) Suzuki Address 110 and it was snowing hard and gusting hard down near the estuary.

I had Heidenau K66 winter tyres pretty fresh on the bike and that's probably the only reason I was able to stay sunny side up for that evening. I made an absolute killing but it was a very stressful night. Twist and go's are susprisingly good in the snow, especially the ones with narrow tyres. Nice and smooth power delivery as long as you can keep the front end down where it's supposed to be!

I can't deny I do enjoy taking the C70 out when there's been heavy snowfall, but we haven't had that for a couple of years now, and that's just to trudge around the estates and slide about a bit.

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General Discussion / Re: At what age do...
« on: November 17, 2020, 02:13:13 PM »
I'll report back when/if I get there. (30 now)

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