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Agility 50 / Re: belt size chart
« on: October 08, 2011, 05:25:47 PM »
if stock spring is 750 -800 rpm, no wonder I got flat spots on light rollers and new belt. But it might be spring lost it's stiffness and ready to be replaced after 25.000+ km's
Think I haven't had issues when scooter was almost new even with lighter rollers and original belt.
I like 1000 rpm too, so I'll try it on longer blt and different rolls

'bout belt, it's so cool you can get belt for test and see what's suits your ag, but 16.5 mm wide is, or close to a service limit.
my original one is 15mm wide, streched to 735mm now, so be careful not to buy a brand new item with properties of an used one  ::)
While I was running old one, uphill and start was ok with no flats but top speed dropped to 60kmh and not a km more no matter how flat or how steep road were. and lighter rollers made it even worst.

Also, if you decide on wider belt, might consider putting washers/spacers to adjust front pulleys on belt and remove it as it get s thinner  :-\     

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Agility 50 / Re: belt size chart
« on: October 08, 2011, 02:54:59 PM »
got almost the same result with new 737mm Bando as with 740( low quality vicma/dynaflex partially shreded but used just for this short test)  Didn't try another worn bando 737 I have or original too worn 729mm belt.
malossi 748 works but I used that one with multivar I gave my friend cos this is my second scoot. He needs it more  ;D

Now when engine is running fine I'll try to play with rollers and rpm spring and maybe buy 3 sets of clutch springs (1000,1500 and 2000 rpm's) just to try and see.

    

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Agility 50 / Re: belt size chart
« on: October 08, 2011, 02:38:33 PM »
yesterday tryed 1000 rpm torque spring with new 729 bando on 5.7g rollers and was much better.

I've had this annoying mid range accel. flat spot on new 729x18 and stock spring and 5.7g.
start was ok but than revs got realy high without any noticable progress. I needed to twist off and on the throttle a couple of times followed by drop in of rpm's, poor acceleration and some rattle-like noise coming from rollers or movable face guides?
Also I got some light rubber grinding vibrations at top speed. anyone have idea what it could be?
1000 rpm contra spring solved this but I want to do some more learning and trial-error do-it-yourself jobs  ;D

for me, oem 729 is short, leaving about 5mm of marker at the edge on the front pulley and is 3-4mm in the rear clutch pulleys.
It's ok for oem variator but limiting top speed.

So, I installed 740x18 and flat spot was even worst than on 729 +during deceleration it was sticking in rear pulleys.  . Installed 1500 rpm spring, 6g rollers but fly springs left stock as I like the way where it engages.
Got much better result and top speed and as I can see longer belts needs a little bit heavier rolles and stiffer torque spring but keeps take off ok cos it's sitting at the top of the driven pulleys.

agility have enough power and it's cool how much could be gained by properly tuned variator.

And one more question, I had 1000rpm and bought 1500rpm spring but I saw some manufacturers advertising it like +20 %, +30 % etc. and what does it mean? +20% than stock? and what is kymco oem torque spring value?               

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#82 is what factory suggests for de restricted agility

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Agility 50 / Re: Download links for manuals for Agility 50 etc.
« on: October 06, 2011, 12:54:59 PM »
nice choice ;D 
all i know is i'm gonna stay away from french cars and stick with german or japanese ones.
been thinking of new polo, toyota auris or subaru forester(winch in front ofcourse) cos I like nature and some light off roading.


also, got offer for 1602 and might sell it. Found an old vw I've been looking for years so it could be my new restoration project.
it's a vw karmann ghia 1.2 '65 in light blue colour. Small tail lights. You streido know what is it  ;D
found it neglected on a farm in some old but dry barn under a pile of rubbish an owner is willing to sell.
pretty good shape but needs paint job and general overhaul and interior retrimming. sitting there for at least 20 years.

thinking of it but thinking of trading in my kymco downtown for new people gti 300.test drove it and love it so i'll see.
scoot is so fast and powerfull I got a little bit scared but think I could get used to it :D

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Agility 50 / Re: Download links for manuals for Agility 50 etc.
« on: October 06, 2011, 08:45:06 AM »
you're right, scooter is my primary mean of motor transport and I also like simple gy6 but I learned a lot working on mine.
even got some more knowledge about cars because of my kymco and had some courage to replace head gasket on my peugeot 106 cos mixing coolant and oil and it worked fine!  :D and i'm weekend mechanic
i have no point driving car in or around town(parking zones,high running costs ) and 90% of time I'm alone in the car. only for travel and weekly grocery shopping.  much better to deal with a 50cc air cooled 4 stroke and finaly ended up with agility, downtown 125i 2010, pug 106 xr and classic bmw 1602 '72 as a project(lack of time) :D

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Agility 50 / Re: belt size chart
« on: October 05, 2011, 01:30:12 PM »
or who doesn't have impact wrench could use 12-13 or 14-15 wrench to block outer pulley agaist var casing

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Agility 50 / Re: How exactly do you do the CDI mod?
« on: October 05, 2011, 11:33:00 AM »
once I put some duct tape over re-circulation hole and left clear tube opened and guess what?
my engine was overheating and cutting itself  ;D 

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Agility 50 / Re: How exactly do you do the CDI mod?
« on: October 05, 2011, 11:20:35 AM »
it's reason I don't like free flow air filters. kymco engineers did a good job.
and yes, it's also oil overfill prevention
our kymco's are preventing our mistakes  ;D 

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Agility 50 / Re: How exactly do you do the CDI mod?
« on: October 05, 2011, 11:05:32 AM »
Yes, it's normal and vital to have oil in air box. When engine is near to overheating, oil is starting to evaporate and in form of mist is going through cranksace breather to air box where it's being mixed with air and sucked into the engine where it cools down the piston and cylinder. I was reading 'bout it and noticed on cold weather my oil level is where I left it and on hot days and stop and go city driving up to 2-3 mm down on 50 km ride.

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Agility 50 / Re: belt size chart
« on: October 05, 2011, 10:54:59 AM »
also I got some flat spots in acceleration from 20 -30 kmh so I think it's time for clutch to be cleaned and greased up.

btw, I got best results with 737x18 bando on stock var., but it's a question of individual tuning so streido keep us informed.

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Agility 50 / Re: belt size chart
« on: October 05, 2011, 10:48:34 AM »
guys, now I ended up with 6 different sets of belts.
recently I bought original Bando 729x18 and installed it over stock variator but used marker pen to draw a line on drive pulley.
I drove about 100 km like that and did some inspection.
There's left 5 mm of marker at the top of the pulley(guess even more on multivar) and belt was not at the edge of the driven pulley on idle. It's about 4 mm in the rear pulleys.
First hand info.

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Agility 50 / Re: My new visor and mirrors.
« on: October 04, 2011, 03:08:54 PM »
now I see it could be a problem to install lower brackets because of turn indicators on handlebars like streido's

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Agility 50 / Re: How exactly do you do the CDI mod?
« on: October 04, 2011, 10:38:10 AM »

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Agility 50 / Re: My new visor and mirrors.
« on: October 03, 2011, 02:24:03 PM »
I got it at a local moto shop who is a Kappa distributor. The shield itself is 40 euros(8 cm higher version  is 44 eur) + specific mounting brackets(for agility city R16 but fits agility R12 like ours with no problems ) for 15 euros. I guess it could be ordered on line or through dealer network.

Let's start with general minuses:
1. increased echo.my horn sounds a bit louder to me and I hear engine and variator working much clearer than with shield off.
2. there is some kind of turbulence at 65+ kmh on heavy front wind like a light handlebar shake and decreased side leaning angle.
3. top speed is 3 kmh less at worst case according to tacho but fuel consumption remained the same.

General pluses:
1. directing air away from my hands and body. there is even less wind on my legs cos it has some wind deflecting shapes at lower part of the shield. Even better when a passenger is behind me and with top case on.
2.I'm 182 cm high and it's geting wind over my helmet at the front ventilation holes just where it should. I like jet helmets and at colder days I needed to instal full face jet helmet windshield and now I don't need to cos my face is wind free.now I use US police style helmet sun visor and it works excellent even on very cold days.
3. while riding, I can talk to my passenger now  ;D
4. it completes general scooter apearance and looks very urban.

based on my experience I would recommend this type of shield(I'm not sales person just an user writing review  ;D). makes everyday riding easyer and more comfortable and it is looking very nice.


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