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General Discussion / Re: Head Buffeting---modern maxi scooters
« on: November 08, 2020, 03:59:32 AM »
The stupid stock windshields provided on the Xciting 500 and the Forza 300 were absolutely worthless.
For the Xciting 500, I swapped it out with the taller windshield from the Xciting 250 to fix the buffeting.
For the Forza, I ended up getting a Givi, which also fixed the buffeting.

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I've owned both the Xciting 500 and Xciting 250 at the same time.
You can't really tell the difference between the two bikes until you get past 55mph, they are pretty much identical before that.   The 250 really starts losing oomf at around 60 and struggles to reach 70, but the 500 will keep on going up to 90 (which is the fastest I took mine, well into the red line @10K rpm, but I could tell there was a little more available if I was willing to risk the engine).  They are both geared to have their powerband in highway speeds.

The quick check is to pop open the seat and look at the underseat storage.  If there is a carburetor access hatch and an air filter access hatch under the seat, it's a 500.  If you see no such ports its a 250.  Your statement about not wanting to get past 70mph leads me to believe you were driving a 250.  If it is a 500, it is definitely having issues.

I had to replace the stator on both bikes (and replaced the regulator and battery at the same time as insurance).

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Xciting 500 / Re: Why did KYMCO stop making/selling the 500i?
« on: October 05, 2018, 02:55:06 AM »
Also, if you're planning to introduce a bike that is 100lbs lighter and has the same engine power, for the same price, you might want to discontinue the bike and give the old ones a chance at clearing out.

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General Discussion / Re: San Diego to Yosemite in a Super 8 150x
« on: June 17, 2018, 02:00:01 PM »
The OEM Kymco belts are very, very good.

3 years ago, I purchased a 2006 XC250 which had 3600 miles on it.  The owner had garaged it for almost 9 years, so as part fo the initial workup after towing it home, I replaced the belt with an OEM belt, even though the original one looked fine (rubber parts and aging, after all).

The bike now has almost 17,000 miles on it.  I check the belt each time I change the oil (1,200 miles), and it still looks fine and I haven't replaced it since.  Keep in mind I weigh 260 lbs. and have a 25 mile commute each way to work - part of it is an uphill climb, and 18 of those miles is typically highway (speeds up to 70mph), both of these place stress on the belt.

My advice would also be to check the belt, and if it looks good, don't bother with packing a spare.  I'd be far more concerned with the possibility of a flat caused by hitting a nail.

Also, if you're consistently replacing damaged belts under 10,000 miles, you either didn't use an OEM belt, or have drivetrain problems (most likely damage to the surfaces the belt rides on, but possibly alignment issues).

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General Discussion / Re: is it the same?
« on: June 17, 2018, 01:34:41 PM »
If the are exactly the same, they would be the exact same Kymco part number (for instance, muffler exhaust gaskets for the 500CC MXU and the Xciting 500 are identical) .  If the part # is different, then there was a change specific to that model, which could very well make it not work.

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General Discussion / Re: Counter steering
« on: June 17, 2018, 01:31:03 PM »
EVERYONE who isn't (the "indestructible" teenager who just got out of MSF classes and decided that SLPR doesn't really need to be followed because ITS ALL ABOUT GOING FAST, NOT GETTING THERE ALIVE) slows down before entering any curve where, due to the traffic or roadside obstructions, you can't see 3-4 seconds ahead. 

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Xciting 500 / Re: How long are tire RIMS "Suppose to" last?
« on: June 17, 2018, 01:13:13 PM »
That's kind of sad.  If you hadn't been on the brakes when you hit the pothole, you might have just kept on driving.

Of course, I hit a similar pothole @ 70mph, and it broke the muffler pipe, the muffler, and damaged the steering column bearings/races.

For the OP, rims "should" outlast the bike.  Only an accident, collision with road debris, a pothole, driving on flat tires, pretending its a trials bike, or the like should cause a rim replacement.  They simply don't wear, at all, in normal operation.

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Xciting 500 / Re: Soggy rear brake after caliper replacement
« on: June 17, 2018, 12:48:25 PM »
Spongy brake and no evidence of leaking brake fluid = air in the hydraulic system.
The mechanic who replaced it didn't fully bleed the brake line.
I bleed at the caliper until no air comes out (this is awkward using a mightyvac because the caliper and brake handle are on oppposite sides of a bike, much quicker to use two people).
Then remove ALMOST ALL the fluid from the reservoir and compress the caliper piston (with a C clamp) all the way down (removes any air trapped near the top of the brake lines).
Then re-attach caliper, add brake fluid to reservoir, and pump brake, adding fluid to reservoir after every few pumps to make sure that you DONT run out while pumping, until the brake pads seat.  Top off fluid and close up shop.

As a side note, on my Xciting 250, which has linked front/rear brakes on the left brake handle, I have *never* been able to get the left brake handle to feel like the right (front brake) one, it seems like it just needs more travel to put the same amount of force on the brakes.  I spent almost an hour bleeding it (across two days) at the calipers, the distribution relay, and the reservoir.  It isn't "squishy" in the sense that it doesn't "firm up" after a few pumps, its always like that, so I think I don't have air in the system, it just works this way.

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Xciting 250 / Re: ISC and IAC valves, how come to have both?
« on: May 18, 2018, 02:11:53 AM »
The Xcitings have a reed valve on the exhaust port and a control valve which allows air to pass through the reed valve.  The ECU will open the control valve whenever there could be unspent fuel in the exhaust; the back pressure when the exhaust valve shuts pulls in fresh air through the reed valve, which allows the unspent fuel in the exhaust to burn; the stock muffler does a pretty good job of muffling those secondary explosions in the exhaust pipe, but if for some reason you put an aftermarket exhaust on, it will be VERY obvious when you ease off the throttle, since the pops will be loud.

You dont say if your bike is the fuel injected version or not.   The non-EFI version has an idle speed adjustment that you can get at under the seat by removing an access door.  You need to wait for the bike to warm up then adjust it to the idle speed listed in the service manual.  The EFI models shouldn't need any adjustment, as there is an ECU controlled motor in the carburetor which controls the idle air mixutre.



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General Discussion / Re: Trade 300 gti for xciting 400i abs
« on: May 18, 2018, 01:54:26 AM »
I've owned the Xciting 500 (which I sold), and still own an Xciting 250 (which I have put over 16,000 miles on). 

They are both VERY stable on the highway.  The Xciting frame is Kymco's highway bike, you have the double disc brakes up front, a decent amount of mass, and the bodywork is such that it doesn't get blown around with crosswinds like my Forza (which is somewhat worse than the xciting) or old Reflex clone (which would require counter steering in any strong breeze).  Mileage on the XC500 wasn't exactly great (42mpg), but it DID have adequate highway power, 85 mph was not a problem (engine not even in redline yet).  The XC400 has the same power but loses a couple of pounds, should be a fantastic highway/touring bike, but with better mileage, just don't expect it to be quite as nimble around town as your 300, since you have the additional weight.  Also, the stock windshield on the 400, being a clone of the windshield that they've been putting on the Xciting since 2009, isn't very good, you'll get a blast of wind on your helmet unless you are riding in crotch rocket position.  Not nearly as bad as the stock Forza windshield (which is decorative and doesn't actually protect you from the wind at all), but you'll probably want to replace it quickly.

The Xcitings tended to lite up the tank empty warning light at around 130 miles, but could probably go another 30 miles beyond that.  It didn't bother me much when I did extensive highway travel, since I needed to take a break every hour or so; I would refuel every other break.

Check the manual for the oil service interval!  The XC500 has an oil filter and a 4000mile oil service interval.  The XC250 has a screen (no filter) but a 1200 mile service interval.  (The Honda Forza has an 8000 mile oil service interval.)  I have no idea what it is on the XC400, but if its 1200 miles, and you do a lot of riding, you will be changing oil once a month.

Finally, underseat storage on the XC500 was *not* very good.  Make sure you pop the seat on the XC400 before putting down the cash, because it is possible you might be wanting a storage box as well.



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General Discussion / Re: 2 stroke motor on choke!???
« on: May 18, 2018, 01:27:33 AM »
As big blue said, ALL Kymco carbureted engines are equipped with a bystarter circuit, which functions like a "choke" mechanism did on older engines, except that it is automatic and requires no user intervention … it enriches the fuel/air mixture when the engine is cold, and after the engine has warmed up, it brings the air/fuel back to normal.  You will notice faster idling for the first few minutes after it starts up; you should wait for the engine to run for 5-10 minutes before adjusting the idle speed screw.  2T engines should also have an accessible idle air/fuel mixture screw, which should NOT require any adjustment unless you've replaced parts with non-OEM parts.  The idle screw should be on the piece where the throttle cable enters the carburetor; the air/fuel screw should be on the front of the carburetor, near the intake manifold.

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Xciting 500 / Re: Coolant change
« on: May 05, 2018, 05:17:07 AM »
Per the XC500 owner's manual, inspect every 8,000 miles, and change at 24,000 miles.  So, extract some and visually inspect it for contamination - if it looks ok, good for another 8,000 miles, if it looks contaminated, check the water pump seals (or the cylinder gaskets) and replace.

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Xciting 250 / Re: Steering bearing removal - replacement
« on: May 05, 2018, 05:09:31 AM »
I actually had to replace the steering column bearings on my Xciting 250 early last year.
I was able to remove the upper outer race no problems (you can use a race puller), the lower one (as said here) I ended up using a dremel diamond engraving bit to slot all the way through it (took almost two hours, since going at it agressively destroys them), then putting a pair of short slots to either side of the cut so that I could use needle nose pliers to compress it and extract it.
The innter lower race bearing, I had to slot to remove.  Installing the lower inner was a matter of tossing the fork in the freezer and the race in the over, then hammering the race down using a 1" x 12" NPT pipe.



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Xciting 500 / Re: 2009 Xciting 500RI - Grumbling sound
« on: November 07, 2017, 10:49:26 PM »
Inspect belt.  Inspect clutch shoes, buff with a brass brush if glazed over, replace them all if one is cracked.   Clean up inside of bell housing with brake cleaner.  If you have the tools, disassemble the rear pulley and re-grease the sliding shafts and bearings.  Do not attempt to clean the pulley belt contact surfaces with cleaner or grease cutter unless you are sure that it won't drip down onto the drive shaft, and that you can clean it all off afterwards (i.e. you have the pulley already disassembled).  Do NOT overlubricate, since it will fly outwards and potentially onto the belt or belt friction surfaces.

While you have the case open and the belt off, it wouldn't hurt to clean up and relubricate the variator as well.

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Kymco News / Re: Xtown 300i/Xciting 400i
« on: November 03, 2017, 03:05:06 AM »
I don't understand what the problem is.  If you want a bike that's touring capable, like the old Dt300i, you can pick up an Xciting 400i, which is almost the same price as the Dt300i, has 7 more hp, front and rear ABS, and dual front disc brakes.  The only thing not to like is the windshield - but then again, you have enough leg room that you won't need to install driver footpegs (which is a much bigger pain in the ass than replacing the windshield).  Seriously, NOBODY would buy a new Dt300i with the Xciting 400i at dealers.

The Xtown is competing in the same space as the Honda Forza (there are some things the Forza does differently, and some things the Xtown does better), not the old Dt300i.  This is why I made the caveat about not caring above 65mph; the Xtown will probably be able to maintain that on all but the steepest of hills.

Hopefully in the spring the dealer will have some test drives.  I've only had the Forza for a few days and miss a lot of the convenience features on the Xciting that Kymco got right.

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