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Messages - Siggy Javotnik

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LIKE 200i / Re: Easiest valve adjustment ever
« on: May 04, 2016, 07:00:57 PM »
We've had a couple 80 degree F days here, so I think people are pulling their scooters out of winter storage. Then they have to take the scooter in to get carbs de-gummed / new batteries / etc., because they just forgot about their scooter over the winter. That's my guess, anyway. The Pacific NW is a great place to be on 2 wheels -- nearby coastline you can access on backroads, nearby mountains with nice backroads, etc. Lots of roads along winding rivers with elevation changes, forests, it's really a good place to be. In the city, it's easy parking / getting around cars in the parking garages / dealing with traffic.

In the past few weeks, I'm starting to see a bunch of old geared Vespas hitting the road. It's nice to have the company out there! Last time I rode an old Vespa, a '65 Allstate 125cc, the big end bearing seized. That was pretty exciting. Mechanic said it's just a known weak point, a ticking time bomb. I pulled the cylinder, expecting the piston to be welded to it a bit -- it came out easy and both piston and cylinder (and rings) looked great. That's when I knew it was seized inside the motor in a place I didn't feel comfortable getting to. Anyway, long story short: it's nice to ride a fuel injected, disc braked, Kymco Like! For dependability. That Allstate was awesome for fun factor. It was a buddy's -- since the seize happened on my watch, I paid for all the parts to fix it, I think he's going to pay labor. Point being: maintenance on the Like seems like a snap. I really like these reasonably sized air-cooled motors.

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LIKE 200i / Re: 2015 the end for the LIKE ??
« on: May 04, 2016, 02:54:56 PM »
July, 2015, is the date of manufacture for my "2016" Like 200i. As Stig pointed out elsewhere, the badge with that info is underneath the right side cowl. If you lay on your back under the scooter while it's on the center stand, it's easy to see.

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LIKE 200i / Re: New Member - Like 200i Anniversary
« on: May 04, 2016, 02:52:30 PM »
Underneath the right cowl, my date of manufacture ACTUALLY says: July, 2015. I guess my VIN decoding trick didn't work! G typically refers to a year ending in 6, at the VIN's 10th spot. Maybe it just means it's a 2016 model year. But she was definitely born in China in July, 2015.

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LIKE 200i / Re: New Member - Like 200i Anniversary
« on: May 04, 2016, 02:10:30 PM »
The VIN will also tell the year of manufacture at the 10th place. Mine has a G, meaning 2016.

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LIKE 200i / Re: Easiest valve adjustment ever
« on: May 04, 2016, 12:52:06 PM »
Nice work, NJrider. Doing your own work helps you get to know your scooter so much better! My dealer really pushed for me to bring the bike back to them for the first service, but I'm glad I did it on my own. Plus, this is a pretty busy time of year for most scooter shops -- who knows when they would have been able to get to it?

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LIKE 200i / Re: Michelin City Grip: Tire pressure
« on: April 22, 2016, 04:00:25 AM »

The usual suspect for the frontend bouncing is also the kenda factory tire which is unbalanced and out of round (mounted). Same thing on the rear.

Holy smokes, I had no idea. Thanks, Vespbretta!

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LIKE 200i / Re: Easiest valve adjustment ever
« on: April 21, 2016, 02:02:24 AM »
Thanks Vespbretta, Stig, and TroutBum! What a wealth of information in your replies. I really appreciate it. I grew up on a 2-stroke Kawasaki 125cc (and there's a '65 Allstate in my garage), and had to clean the plug regularly. But on 4-strokes? I replace really nice looking plugs. Except on my Honda car at 100,000 miles, those were tired.  :)

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LIKE 200i / Re: Michelin City Grip: Tire pressure
« on: April 20, 2016, 01:59:44 PM »
When I bought my Like, the dealer volunteered, with a world-weary tone, "30 psi up front, 32 in the back." I got the feeling he said those words for every modern scoot he sold. I thought my steering bearings were shot, the front end bounced so much at anything over 30 mph! Backing front psi to 26 fixed it.

I've been running the rear at 32 psi, but after reading this thread I might bump it up a few pounds. I've found myself switching the rear shocks between full preload (as taut as the suspension gets) and the middle, second setting. One is too tight, the other is slightly too loose. Sometimes I forget the tires are part of the suspension too. :)

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LIKE 200i / Re: Easiest valve adjustment ever
« on: April 20, 2016, 01:03:08 PM »
Sheesh Stig, that's a good point too! This is the first engine I've been able to check valves on WITHOUT being basically required to remove the spark plug. With bigger jugs, I don't even bother trying to set valves without removing the plug, as there's too much compression with the plug in. This engine is so small, good natured and tractable that it wasn't a problem.

The owner's manual calls for plug replacement every 3,000 miles, removal and cleaning every 1,200. That seems like a pretty often plug change! How long can you "set it and forget it" with an iridium plug? 10k? I'd still check for tightness occasionally -- I had a CB450 loosen a plug on her own once.

I've looked at your signature line, Stig, as a great example of what I can do if I ever need more power on this thing. Iridium plug and Dr. Pulley's seems like a fast combo.


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LIKE 200i / Re: Easiest valve adjustment ever
« on: April 20, 2016, 04:57:24 AM »
Food for thought. Next time you check the valves do it when you replace/inspect the spark plug. I find it even easier to rotate the engine to TDC with the spark plug removed.

Thanks, TroutBum! Makes sense.

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LIKE 200i / Re: Easiest valve adjustment ever
« on: April 20, 2016, 01:30:34 AM »
Stig, thanks for the idea about a rag to cover the battery, I hadn't thought of that! And also thanks for letting me know bolts seem very tight on new vehicles. It's nuts. (Thanks! I'll be here all week, please tip your server). Same seems to be true if you take your car to a Jiffy Lube type place. The main reason I don't go there is: I won't be able to get the bolts / filters loose next time without a breaker bar and 3 Hail Marys.

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LIKE 200i / Re: New Like 200i owner (by proxy)
« on: April 19, 2016, 03:34:06 AM »


I LIKE that Matte black finish on the Like.

Thanks! Like the OP, I got the Like 200i for my wife...but it seems I'm the one riding it. Then, she went and bought a Vespa 150, white on white Primavera with white "Vespa" top case (it's very, very, feminine). I prefer the Like, but the Vespa engineering is impressive.

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LIKE 200i / Re: Top speed from yesterday ride
« on: April 19, 2016, 03:13:22 AM »
My experience is: up to 50 mph, she's happy. She'll go faster than that, but she's not happy.

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LIKE 200i / Re: LIKE200i pictures
« on: April 19, 2016, 03:04:57 AM »
My wife sent me to the store. This thing can carry a vast amount of groceries.

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LIKE 200i / Re: 14000 miles, too many?
« on: April 19, 2016, 02:59:04 AM »

Serviced regularly. New tires, new rear brakes. Valves never adjusted.  If valves need adjustment, would that only make it run poorly, or would it cause damage to the engine?   

         Thanks

Valves left too tight (they tend to tighten, especially exhaust valves, with use as the valve material seats) can lead to quiet running (a loud tappet is a happy tappet) and make your bike eat the valve (major engine overhaul). Leaving them too loose is less likely a problem, but can lead to excessive wear on the valve train. I wouldn't walk away from a good deal on a Like. I would just do the valve adjustment when I got the bike home and it cooled down overnight. Easy to get to the valves. There's only two of them.

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