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General Discussion / Re: KPIPE 2017 MODS/UPGRADES/TIPS?
« on: August 10, 2017, 12:35:14 AM »
.05mm/.002" for the valve clearance.

The oil screen is in the crankcase. You have to remove the right side cover (where the brake pedal and kickstand are) to get to it. I haven't cracked it open myself; I know there's at least one person here who has, so maybe he'll chime in. Maybe it's easy, but I decided so far that it's not worth the effort and risk of losing something tiny that might be difficult to replace. My perhaps not-so-great compromise is to change the oil every 500 miles and keep my fingers crossed that if something hard gets caught by that screen, it's gonna stay there. I look up thru the drain plug hole whenever I change the oil and the screen looks clean. I might try poking a USB borescope down the oil fill hole next time I change oil.

By the way, I haven't seen any K-Pipe activity on this forum for many months. Where is everybody?

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General Discussion / Re: 2016 K-Pipe 125 Owner
« on: June 15, 2017, 11:30:57 PM »
My K-Pipe's odometer just rolled over to four digits today. Those are miles, not kilometers. One thing I noticed when it rolled over from 999 to 1000 is the thousand digit popped up the left. Any idea how high the odometer can register? There's room on the display for at least two more digits there! Who knows, maybe I can be take pics when my K-Pipe racks up 10,000 miles and again at 100,000 miles.

I've noticed that my bike's gas mileage gets a little better with each tank. I averaged 99.7 mpg on the last tank; I'm sure it'll be over 100 mpg when I fill up again. And that's with stock gearing.

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General Discussion / Re: KPIPE 2017 MODS/UPGRADES/TIPS?
« on: May 30, 2017, 09:07:09 PM »
I run 87 octane most of the time, mainly because I forget to do otherwise. I tried 91 ooctane once and didn't notice any difference in performance or mileage; I average 93-95 mpg.

I don't have it in front of me, but I think the user manual says to use 91 octane. But do a Google search and you'll see that octane rating methods vary between countries, so I dunno whose 91 octane system Kymco uses. I pretty much decided that these sorts of 125cc engines are common in a lot of countries where people have more existential concerns than fuel quality, precise valve clearances, etc., so the engines must be fairly buttetproof. I am going to change to oil a lot more often than the manual says to, since there's no real filter and geez, it's only a quart anyway.

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General Discussion / Re: KPIPE 2017 MODS/UPGRADES/TIPS?
« on: May 26, 2017, 03:59:07 PM »
What's the shifter look like on your 2017? Just curious; you probably know from reading posts here that the 2016 models had a linkage kit added to basically reverse the shift pattern the bike came with. I'm just curious if it's still that way on the 2017 model.

There are some clever, bold folks here who have done things with their K-Pipes, like changing the gearing. I'm trying to resist until I get a few more miles on mine. I'd like a higher top end, but I don't like how it already struggles on hills even with the stock gearing. I do like the 93-95 mpg I'm seeing so far. The one thing I've done was remove the Kymco lettering off the tank. The all-caps lettering just looked too generic and clunky to me, and I prefer a naked look on any bike. I also removed the K-Pipe logo that's under the seat. In hindsight, I wish I hadn't removed the K-Pipe decals; I especially wish I hadn't used acetone to clean up glue spots, as I found out the black there is a thin layer of black paint over a white plastic, and comes off easily. Luckily, it's a generic flat black.

I am looking for suggestions for a windshield. The only one I've seen pictured on a K-Pipe is the Puig Rafale, which isn't for me.

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General Discussion / Re: 2016 K-Pipe 125 Owner
« on: May 06, 2017, 02:46:41 PM »
Oh, the dreams I sometimes have when I'm riding my K-Pipe. But you know, even tho the seat doesn't look any more angled than a lot of other bikes, I feel like I'm being nudged forward all the time.  Woodsrat mentioned this also, and I also think he's already tried different handlebars. Is it just this style of bike, rider age, the bike's compact size, or something else?

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General Discussion / Re: 2016 K-Pipe 125 Owner
« on: April 28, 2017, 08:38:48 PM »
What? Shop manual inaccurate? Take a look at the specs on pages 1.1, 2.1, and 6.1 in the shop manual and decide which set of valve clearance numbers printed on each of those three pages is the right one. However, I do have to think that since this engine type is popular in a lot of countries where the bike owners have more important things to fret about than optimum valve clearance, it's a fairly robust engine, and maybe I worry too much. Maybe the specs are just guidelines.

You and I were in the same mood the other day, Woodsrat. I took my Pipe over to my cabin in Ohio's Hocking Hills area. (One of the reasons I wanted a Monkey Bike was I wanted something light I could easily load in the back of my truck by myself and haul there). It's hilly there also; I was down to second gear a lot of times before peaking a hill. I did discover that the bike is skittish on gravel; I probably should have realized that would be a problem on such a light bike with skinny tires. I tried going down a very steep hill on a gravel road and quickly realized I was skating, not slowing, as soon as I applied the brakes. I ended up sideways before somehow, impressively, getting stopped without dropping the bike. Going back up the hill, I had to waddle-walk the bike, since the back tire was bucking and washboarding as it tried to gain traction on the gravel.

Believe it or not, I'm not complaining. As soon as I got back on level ground, I began thinking how much worse my day could have been had I been on the Kawasaki Concours that I used to have, one of the older ones with that huge, 7-gallon belly gas tank. I think I would have been in a world of pain on that road on that bike.

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General Discussion / Re: 2016 K-Pipe 125 Owner
« on: April 24, 2017, 04:14:46 PM »
Great to see some activity here again :)

Two questions. I looked in the Quote Owner's Manual Unquote and couldn't find the answers.

1. What is the purpose of that little light bulb that's to the upper right of the low-beam headlight? It doesn't come on on my K-Pipe. My assumption is that maybe it's a running light for possibly the rest of the world that doesn't require an always-on low beam. But I'm just guessing.

2. Are there supposed to be three settings on the odometer? Mine has three settings that it transitions between when you press the left button for a few seconds--accumulated mileage, trip meter, and whatever that third numeric reading is. Whatever it's supposed to be, there's no ODO or Trip legend that displays below it like what displays when at the other two positions, and it's resettable. The "Owner's Manual" claims the odometer has a blinking oil change indicator function. Is that what this is supposed to be used for? I guess it could be used as a Trip Meter B, just like a real touring bike.

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General Discussion / Re: 2016 K-Pipe 125 Owner
« on: April 20, 2017, 06:50:29 PM »
Third and final results from me:

80 miles at 0.843 gallons to refill for 95 mpg. No mods, getting ready to do that 300 mile initial valve adjustment.


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General Discussion / Re: 2016 K-Pipe 125 Owner
« on: April 16, 2017, 07:55:06 PM »
Second tank results:

75 miles at 0.805 gallons to refill for a whopping 93 mpg.

The more I think about it, Lilzip24 is right about the petcock. There'd have to be a separate, shorter tube going to the gas tank for it to be Reserve, and there's not one. Oh well, assuming it's really a a 1.2 gallon tank (the user manual claims it's 4.5 liters), you should be able to squeeze at least another 15-20 miles out of the bike after the fuel bar begins blinking.

I'm still curious what grade gas you guys are running. I put mid-grade in the this tank to see if it makes any difference. But I didn't hear any pinging when I ran regular in it before. And I have to think higher octane gas isn't readily available in a lot of the countries where bikes with this type of engine are popular.

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General Discussion / Re: 2016 K-Pipe 125 Owner
« on: April 12, 2017, 03:28:23 PM »
Results from my first full tank. I'm 6 foot, 180 lbs. I really tried following the user manual guidelines about taking it easy at first and varying the speed:

The fuel gauge began flashing consistently at 73 miles. It took .836 gallons to refill the tank. If I'm figuring this correctly, that's about 87 mpg, which isn't bad. I haven't yet calibrated the odometer against GPS, however, I have checked the speedometer against a mapping app on my phone and my bike's speedometer is surprisingly accurate; compared with a speedometer top speed of 54 mph, the app registered 52 mph as the real top speed.

The manual says to use 91 octane or higher. Somewhere in my mind I recall that Asian 91 octane is the same as our 87 octane. (And honestly, I'm not sure I take anything in that manual as being 100 percent accurate). Anyway, I ended up putting regular 87 octane in mine mainly because I forgot to do otherwise. Am I remembering correctly on the octane difference? What octane are you guys running?

Also, looking at that petcock. There's only two positions there; I'm old-school and used to three positions on my petcocks--On, Off, and Reserve. So, on the K-Pipe, are the positions On and Off, or On and Reserve?

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General Discussion / Re: 2016 K-Pipe 125 Owner
« on: March 30, 2017, 06:31:43 PM »
Well, I did it. I ordered a K-Pipe; it should be at the dealer in a couple of days. The dealer had a white one on the floor I could have brought home today, but I really wanted a red one. My thinking is where I'm planning to ride it a lot had lots of opportunities for mud throwing, and red might hide mud better than white. Also, I'm hoping an accessory like this comes with all the red ones.

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General Discussion / Re: 2016 K-Pipe 125 Owner
« on: March 29, 2017, 04:34:28 PM »
Thanks. More I look at the listing, maybe these actually are pics of the 2017 K-Pipe there. Here's the link:

https://ocala.craigslist.org/mcd/6064993705.html

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General Discussion / Re: 2016 K-Pipe 125 Owner
« on: March 29, 2017, 04:10:54 PM »
I'm this close to grabbing one of these. The frustrating thing is no dealers here in the midwest seem to have the 2017 model. I did find a dealer in Virginia that claims to have a 2017 model and another one in Tampa. I called both of them this morning; both said the shift pattern is up on the 2017's, but both dealerships said they didn't carry until the K-Pipe until this year, so didn't know how to compare the 2017 shifter to the kludged 2016 shifter. Here's a pic from the Florida dealer's listing; my guess is it's a stock Kymco photo, but can anyone tell if it looks any different from the 2016 shifter?

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General Discussion / Re: 2016 K-Pipe 125 Owner
« on: March 20, 2017, 07:14:15 PM »
Glad I ran across this forum! I was at a dealer today and looked at the K-Pipe. A couple of questions:

The dealership had three 2016 models on the floor. I asked about the 2017s, and the guy I spoke with said they were available, but the dealership wouldn't be ordering any until all the 2016s were sold. He offered $200 off, bringing it to around $2,000 out the door. Of course I'd like to pay less, but what's a reasonable offer on last year's model?

He said the two clear lights in the tank plastic are running lights. I get the impression from reading the posts here that that's not correct, that they're actually where the turn signals are for the rest of the world. Right or wrong?

Finally, he said the shift pattern is four-down. I questioned that, and judging from what I've read here, that has something to do with a recall? What's the deal, is this bike supposed to have that shift pattern, or does that mean it's an older, pre-recall model?

Would you take it, or instead wait for a 2017 model to become available?

Thanks.

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