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Agility 50 / Re: Gear Up
« on: April 06, 2020, 01:18:49 PM »
I guess the questions is what is your current gear ratio in the back.

I was able to get the extra 5-8 km/h by reducing the large gear by 1 tooth. Note that local laws here say I can do 70km/h and mine will do 75 on the flat with a tail wind.

I figured used this site to figure out what different gear ratios would give me.  I had to have play with the RPMs to match the speed to what I getting with current set up then I could adjust the ratios from there to get a picture.

Hope it helps

https://electricscooterparts.com/motorwheelgearratio.html


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Super 8 / Re: super 8 50cc 4t de restriction
« on: March 25, 2020, 01:05:18 PM »
The CDI is normally 8 pin and DC for the 4T kymcos.  Once that wire is removed and it takes away the rev limiter.
If you have a smooth boss, make sure you install the 82 jet as well.  This should get you to 60-65kmh

Mine is located next to the battery and looks like this one

https://www.scootertuning.ca/en/ignition-coil/53026-cdi-unit-naraku-unrestricted-agility-50-kl-kg.html

Also I have found then when looking for 4T parts I use the Agility 50 4T as these are the platform that the newer Super 8s are based off of. 

Hope this helps

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Super 8 / Re: super 8 50cc 4t de restriction
« on: March 19, 2020, 12:14:38 AM »
I have a 2015 4T

Here is what I did to get 70-75km/h (roughly 40mph) depending on the wind

Installed the smooth boss and upgrade the variator to a Polini Hi-Speed (6.9 gram rollers)
Installed 1000rpm springs (Torque and Clutch)
Installed Big Bore Kit (72cc)
Up jetted the carborator to 92 (comes with 80 installed)
removed the restriction ring in the pipe between the carb and motor
Installed Silent Pro exhaust (looking to upgrade more for looks)
cut the purple/red wire on the CDI (look this up on youtube even it is there.) to take away the rev limiter
Installed new gears (15/52 to 14/53 I think. It was one tooth difference)  Didn't get the extra top end above 70km/h till after I did this.

Hope this helps and shows you what kind of work goes into it.  The only thing I didn't install was the BBK  I let a mechanic do that.

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Super 8 / Re: Hi need your help, Super 8 from Montreal!
« on: November 03, 2019, 12:05:07 AM »
Is this a 4T(4 Stroke) or 2T(2 Stroke)?

Different things needed for different versions

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Technical | How To / Re: Vitality 2 stroke swapped into Super 8 4 Stroke Scooter
« on: October 02, 2019, 06:36:23 PM »
Quote from: JJJoseph on October 02, 2019, 04:50:34 AM
LOL! Swapping engines is going to cost you way more than $80/year extra!  A 2-stroke will likely last not more than 15,000km, then you'll have to buy a new engine.  You might get 30,000km out of a 4-stroke.  Moving up to a bigger (longer lasting) engine engine might be a whole lot cheaper in the long run.

Well considering I just picked up a used Vitality for $150 and I would still have the old 4 stroke motor as well I would say I am good for the next 10 years at least.  The $80 I save a year will let me buy another used scooter or three I could scavenge from.  Sounds like I am in the words of Charlie Sheen "#winning" here.

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Technical | How To / Re: HONDA replies to scooter oil question
« on: September 28, 2019, 02:10:53 PM »
In the owners manual for my Super 8 50R is states different viscosity based on the temperature. The colder the less it asks for.  Maybe for cold starts and such.
I generally grab a 4 stroke specific oil(non-synthetic) for mine.  I don't get a lot of recreational riding on it and use it mostly for commuting. 


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Technical | How To / Re: More RPM after Gear Upgrade
« on: September 23, 2019, 12:21:59 AM »
I have the 72cc BBK installed.  I could upgrade one pipe (from technigass Silent Sport to the Next R) and a bigger jet.  I am getting more power since upgrading my air filter.  Holding 72 now but hoping to hold 75 as a goal.. I wasn't looking for a huge boost just enough to be safe on the 70km/h roads.

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Super 8 / Re: Super 8 4 stroke purple cdi wire
« on: September 22, 2019, 08:13:49 PM »
The washer is located in the intake manifold directly in the from of the Carb

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Super 8 / Re: Cdi box for 2014 super8 50 2t
« on: September 12, 2019, 11:09:58 AM »
Quote from: Hawkeye on September 12, 2019, 10:30:25 AM
Anyone know the correct part number for the cdi box in this scooter? I need to get the wiring harness too, since a thief cut the whole thing out of my battery compartment while I was at work. Having trouble finding the correct part. Any help is appreciated.

Maybe this will help.

https://www.oemmotorparts.com/oem5.asp?M=Kymco&T=SUPER%208%20STREET&Y=_&L=KYMCO_Super%208%20Street&O=Wire%20Harness&F=KYMCO_Super%208%20Street_Wire%20Harness&L2=KYMCO_Super%208%20Street_Wire%20Harness

I have used this site when I was trying to figure out my gears for the 4T.  This shows a diagram then a part number associated with it.

also try the guys at https://www.scootertuning.ca/en/  They are pretty quick to answer questions I find when I have asked them.

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Super 8 / Re: Super 8 4 stroke purple cdi wire
« on: September 11, 2019, 12:44:28 PM »
I have had my scooter for 3 years now and have had no issue.  there is also a restricting washer between the carb and the motor.  Should get you to 65km/h

Outside that you will need a BBK, exhaust, and gearing change to go any faster

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Technical | How To / More RPM after Gear Upgrade
« on: September 08, 2019, 11:10:26 PM »
Hey all looking for some advice on this now.  I have upgraded the gears now.  It had a 14/54 and I was able to pick up a Vitality 50 2T and swap the gears from it.  They are 16/53.

This works out to a 13% increase or remarkably 13kph but my scooter seems to be not able to get past 7000 RPM and still stuck at 68kph.  So I am going to try lighter rollers and see how that works.  Before I was getting 68kph at 7800RPM

Set up is as follows

72cc BBK
92 main jet
1000 RPM Contra Spring
6.5gr rollers (just installed 6.2 to see how it goes, I also marked the variator with a marker to see how high the belt will go.)

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Super 8 / Re: More Speed after 72cc install? 2015 Super8 4T
« on: September 08, 2019, 11:01:56 PM »
Hey all looking for some advice on this now.  I have upgrade the gears now.  It had a 14/54 and I was able to pick up a Vitality 50 2T and swap the gears from it.  They are 16/53.

This works out to a 13% increase or remarkably 13kph but my scooter seems to be not able to get past 7000 RPM and still stuck at 68kph.  So I am going to try lighter rollers and see how that works.  Before I was getting 68kph at 7800RPM

Set up is as follows

72cc BBK
92 main jet
1000 RPM Contra Spring
6.5gr rollers (just installed 6.2 to see how it goes, I also marked the variator with a marker to see how high the belt will go.)

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Technical | How To / Re: Vitality 2 stroke swapped into Super 8 4 Stroke Scooter
« on: September 07, 2019, 11:15:47 PM »
You have to upjet for them so there must be something there.

I noticed a difference with i went from stock to 1 step up.  The new exhaust will be 2 steps up

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Technical | How To / Re: Vitality 2 stroke swapped into Super 8 4 Stroke Scooter
« on: September 07, 2019, 03:58:50 AM »
Quote from: JJJoseph on September 07, 2019, 03:42:16 AM
As a retired 2T tuner, this sounds like totally nuts!  Much easier, and WAY cheaper, to sell the tiddler and buy something bigger.

has  more to do with the fact I don't want to get a  motorcycle license.  I can drive a "50cc" scooter with my regular drivers license.  The  motorcycle costs an extra $80 a year.

The gears will make all the difference on  my 4T.  its the last restriction plus I can get the Tecni-Gas R type exhaust for it for under $150 Canadian as well

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Technical | How To / Re: Vitality 2 stroke swapped into Super 8 4 Stroke Scooter
« on: September 04, 2019, 03:14:23 PM »
So after taking the Vitality plastic off to get a better view it won't go straight swap.  The mounts are different so I guess fix up the vitality and sell it.

Will probably have to find a 2T agility for this.

Still going to take the gears from this one for the Super 8 though.  I am pretty sure there is a 10% increase in there.

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