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General Discussion / Starting a Category Under Motorcycles for KPipe 125
« on: October 25, 2017, 11:55:50 PM »
Would one of the forum moderators be willing to open up a category under the Motorcycle Heading for KPipe 125.  Right now posts on this machine seem to just show up under General Discussion and are harder to find fellow owners and be aware of ongoing discussions.

Thank you. 

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General Discussion / Re: KPIPE 2017 MODS/UPGRADES/TIPS?
« on: October 25, 2017, 11:51:11 PM »
I purchased a white Kpipe 125 in May 2017 as a newbie cyclist.  Just passed the 1000 mile mark on it last night.  For a beginning bike I have been pretty happy.  Right now have wishes for about 10 more miles per hour though and a bit more fuel capacity to do back roads and frontage roads with more ease.

Am wondering how many of these have sold in the US and how many English Speaking Users might be available to discuss their experiences with the cycle.  I did start a facebook group called Kymco Kpipe Users Group.  Not much discussion yet but will extend a welcome here.

I am also wondering about the following:

1.  Those that are getting more then 90 miles to the gallon -- can you tell us what kind of terrain (mostly flat or hills, paved versus dirt roads, etc ) and whether you are through the 1000 mile break in period yet.  I if you are willing am also interested in knowing how much total weight the cycle is carrying for these mileage figures (i.e. rider/passenger plus any extra gear or baggage).   Also, have you stayed with stock tires or using something else, including knobby tires?

2.  What is the top speed you are reliably getting in the absence of significant wind on mostly level ground?  Have your made any changes to the cycle to reach this such as in exhaust, sprockets, spark plugs?

3.  Has anyone tried the aftermarket linkage to lower the seat height and flatten out the forward tipping angle?

4.  Has any one added saddle bags and have suggestions on ones that work with the muffler which is positioned pretty right on the right side of the bike?

5.  Does anyone know of an aftermarket product for adding more fuel capacity than the 1.2 gallon tank that is standard?

6.  Several of the initial reviews (possibly 2016) indicated it was hard to start, and stalled out a lot -- making it cold blooded.  Mine is a 2017 and has had no problems at all with this.  I can start it without the choke (altitude 4000-5000 feet) down to 50-55 degrees F.  After that using the choke very briefly it starts immediately as low as them temps have reached this fall (30's).  I have yet to have a chance to test below that.  What is your experience?

7.  Has anyone put a higher cc engine in their KPipe?

8.  I purchase it with a change in tires from the beginning to IRC knobby tires --3 inch in the front and 3.5 in the rear.  Wandering what other tires you have tried on it and about your satisfaction level with them. 

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For starters, will introduce some of my experience at 5 months and 1000+ miles:

Besides some modifications mentioned above, I have also installed a windshield, handwarmer grips and wind-deflectors for the handle bars.  My favorite mod however was a change 13 T sprocket for the front.  I had previously read on this forum and discussed it with my dealer.  So little information was available -- so I looked at discussions regarding other similar 125 to 175 cc bikes.  Sadly I cannot read much that is not in English and google and FB translators don't work well enough for technical language -- so the FaceBook Kymco K-Pipe Club which gets a lot of traffic was not a viable option for me to explore sprocket modifications.

My initial thought was to put 1 extra tooth up front and set up the order and for my dealer to do the install.  To my amazement, on pickup, they had installed 13T rather than 15T (stock size was 14T).  Initially I expected to be disappointed, and thought that I would lose top speed for my riding area -- which has a LOT of hills.  I had been frustrated that sometimes it was hard to even reach 45 mph, until I reached a downhill stretch.  I typically could not get it to go over 50 mph.   

However, the shift to a 13T was awesome. AWESOME!!! The dealer had tested it directly and felt the motor for our conditions would not pull a 15T adequately here.  So he opted to go for better acceleration.  This has transformed my KPipe into a whole different bike.  It is less busy rev-ving now and I can shift up at a higher speed.  Previously had to shift from 1 to 2 at about 9-10 mph as other otherwise it did nothing but rev.  Now I can accelerate to 13 or more before having to shift.  Previously had to shift to 3rd at 23-25 mph, now it can typically go to 30 mph or higher if on an an incline.  Previously had to shift to 4th around 33 to 35 mph or it lost acceleration and just revved.  Now that point is at 41-43 mph.  The change has made dealing with traffic in our town so much easier.  I am able to easily pace with cars near me or even be a little ahead of them most of the time (unless they are speeding) while doing in-town driving.  My top easy crusing speed went from low 40's  up to now reaching very 50 easily, and quite often 55 or a little more.  I have reached 63 mph and suspect that I could get a little more with favorable conditions.  This new performance jump is with the knobby tires, windshield, saddle bags carrying some gear -- so total added weight probably about 180 lbs with rider. 

The ability to reach higher speeds before shifting has just made riding a great deal more pleasurable.  I am not sure yet what this will do to my gas mileage.  I reached 94 mpg once just before I had the sprocket changed (Inow use 91% octane and no ethanol from Costco -- another branded station in town consistently got 10 mpg less on 91% octane and does not promise whether it contains ethanol or not).  Then the weather turned and I needed to start using the choke most of the time now.  I also was reaching near 1000 miles break in and wanted to see how much the cycle would do performance wise -- so admit that I have been pushing it more than usual or necessary for a couple of fills.   However, am recently am getting about 84-88 mpg.  I anticipate returning to mostly my typical in-town driving patterns during the week and back roads when weather permits on the weekends.  Will be curious about whether I will be able to get above 90 mpg again.  Might have to wait for warmer weather to really answer that.   

Again, extending a welcome to any Kpipe English speaking Owners out there who would like to participate in discussion in a Facebook group.  If interested, look for Kymco Kpipe Users Group.  It is not a forum so for those wanting to search for quick answers, organized by topics this forum is probably better suited.

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General Discussion / Re: 2016 K-Pipe 125 Owner
« on: October 25, 2017, 11:07:35 PM »
Hello.  I purchased a Kymco Kpipe 125 in May 2017 in Montana.  Am having a pretty good experience with it. Have made some upgrades/modifications and had to discover somethings on my own as the owner's manual is ... well ... not quite thorough or accurate.  In one place it actually references a completely different motorcycle not available in the US. 

Since this comment string for owners/users is not getting much traffic or discussion, I opened a facebook group for english speakers; it is called Kymco Kpipe Users Group.  No formal technical advice from Kymco is associated with this.  However, it provides an opportunity for users to talk with each other particularly about the KPipe 125. 

So far.  I have not met via this route any Kpipe owners in the USA.  Am wondering if you are out there.  The only other group on FB is a K-Pipe Club and FB does not translate the other languages enough for me to communicate  very well.  Thus...putting out the invitation for KPipe Users here.   

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