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Hope you get it sorted out soon!

Thanks. I took the scooter to the workshop and explained the situation. Their desk guy, who gave quite some scorn, when it came to it couldn't open it up. Their head mechanic eventually managed, after much to-ing and  fro-ing.

Honestly you wouldn't believe just how complicated it was just getting the panel cover off - and this was their senior mechanic.

Turns out that what you said, Jeeves, about the types of fuses (i.e. plastic wedge) were spot on. There were 3 spares in there but how on earth I would ever get the thing opened of my own accord in an emergency is quite beyond me. At least now though I can show roadside assist what to do and where to look, in the event of a blown fuse. Nothing anywhere in the owners manual gives this info, photographically or verbally, it's all left to the imagination. Sometimes I hate being a non-tech head lol


Cheers again for your input.

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Looks like they have a cap on them that you have to open to get to the fuse.

Take a few pictures and post em here. Curious to see how it looks inside there.

Actually now I can't unscrew the front cover the get to the battery case where the fuses are, the screw is too tight and won't budge - (imagine being in a blown fuse breakdown, needing to change a fuse but unable to open it up!)

I'll take it to the dealer's workshop and ask for help, they'll have more powerful tools. Don't like asking them for help like this - when I rang to ask what type of spare fuses, they just said they weren't certain, but 'probably' glass cylinder type although 'not sure' what length and 'probably' a spare already in there, but that I should open it up and look. As I can't even achieve that now, I'll have to return to them for assistance.

Jeeves you've been far more helpful than the dealer's workshop, so thanks again. It's just unsettling in the interim, in case a fuse blew and I was stranded and unable to deal with it, but with any luck that won't occur and hopefully this back-up plan will eventually be sorted.

Cheers.




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Looks like they have a cap on them that you have to open to get to the fuse.

Take a few pictures and post em here. Curious to see how it looks inside there.

OK, I'll wait until the heavy rains here subside, as I only have kerbside parking so want to avoid getting the insides wet.

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Ups...you know the saying :"Assumption is the mother of all fu..ups"  :-[
From the picture you posted it looked like the battery is in the rear, but I see that I was wrong. Sorry   :-\

On the same picture you can clearly see a standard blade type fuse, so it's probably the type of fuse in your scoot.
I circled the place where I presume the fuse holders are, but after being wrong a few times I will restrain from giving anymore "good" advice.

I would open up the front, as shown in your manual, and take a look.

Good luck.

Jeeves over and out.


Thanks Jeeves for your illustration, I had no idea these were the fuse holders. I'll have closer look at these when the rains stop here (I just have kerbside parking).

You've been extremely helpful.

How might these type of fuse holders open? Push? Pull?

If you don't know, that's fine.

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Took this picture at a hardware store today. It costs about 1.25US$

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PS Jeeves here's another photo from my owners manual of the battery position, taken from a different angle - as you can see, the battery is definitely located at the front, not the rear. (Might this mean the fuses are not wedge-type ones after all? Or are you still sure about that bit?)

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Ok, looking at the picture from your manual I was waaaay off with my suggestion.

Your battery and fuses are located above the rear brake lights, which makes sense because the fuel tank is under your feet.
Also looking at the picture your scooter has standard size blade fuses like on the picture below. Different colors are different amp values.

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Many thanks for your help & photos Jeeves. How are you able to see that the fuses are blade types?

However, I'm not sure how you're concluding that the battery on my scooter is where you say.

On the attached images here (again from my owners manual), you'll see the battery is not above the rear brake lights, but at the front of the scooter behind a panel.

Were you maybe looking at an online manual for an older version of this scooter? Mine is the 2018 model, and these images I've posted on our thread are all from this 2018 model's printed owners manual.

As we're talking at cross purposes re the battery's position, might this also mean that my fuses might not be the wedge/blade type you've concluded they are? Or is something you haven't mentioned making you certain they're this type of fuse, rather than glass cylinder ones?

Hate to be a pest, but any further clarity from you would be hugely appreciated.

Cheers.

(Also see my next reply for another pic of battery position, photographed from a different angle)

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Your engine is basically the same as mine and a lot of carb Kymco 152-200ccm scooters.

If my case I have only 2 fuses located next to the battery, also had 1 spare in there.

It's only a few screws holding the battery cover in place. Open it up and see what you got. Take a few pictures if you are not sure and post here or email them to your mechanic.

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Thanks Jeeves. This scooter has three fuses listed in the printed owners manual (10A, 15A and 25A).

Opening the battery cover (I have) exposes no fuses, so I'm unable to determine which amp fuse goes where, which might be a spare, or what type of fuses are needed (glass cylinder or plastic wedge).

Attached is a scan of the 'fuses' page in the owners manual. It shows the view inside the battery cover I've just described (probably clearer than a photo by me of same view). It tells me nothing.

Unless you can make more sense of this image than me (?) Would love to hear if you can.

Cheers.

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Well, if you have the correct fuses
 in hand, and the unusual (blowing a fuse on a new scooter) does happen - you'll need to know where they are so you can get back underway again.
So, suggest you now go ahead and open the battery cover, see what spares your scooter came with....and which others are in use there. Buy some if needed....
And then you can rest easy.

Stig


Thanks Stig, but I'd have no idea which were spare or otherwise just by opening the battery compartment.

I want the spares to hand to the roadside assist people if needed. When my last two scooters (Agility 125 & Agility 200i, both fairly new) blew fuses and I called these services, their staff didn't even know where my scooter's battery compartment was. I've had to direct them to it using the printed Owners Manual, then hand them the spare fuses. Even they (mainly used to cars) did much fiddling on both occasions to see which spare fuse went where, using trial and error until each of my previous scooters started. And these are mechanics. I'm just someone who wants the right spare fuses to hand to them when needed.

But on this model scooter I can't distinguish the fuse positionings. The printed Owners Manual lists only the amps of the three fuses (10A 15A and 25A), alongside a blurred black photo of the battery compartment with no indication as to which amp fuse sits where.

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Thanks for your comments so far everyone.

I've just called and asked the sales dealer's workshop mechanics and even they aren't 100% sure - they think they're probably the glass cylindrical variety but still can't be certain of the length (assuming they actually are the glass cylindrical type).

They also say there are likely some spares pre-inserted somewhere, but again can't be certain. You'd think these people would know these things.

Seems my only options are to:

a) open up the battery case myself and remove each of the three fuse sizes to see whether they're wedge or cylinder, which I'm reluctant to do being no tech head

OR

b) wait till I take it in for its first (1000 km) service and ask the mechanics to check for me - that'll be months away as it's a low mileage/city-hop scooter which, in 3 weeks, has still only done 142 km on the odometer. I want to get spares sooner than that.

So as neither of those options quite work for me, I'd still appreciate hearing from anyone here who knows for sure whether wedge or cylinder (in which case what length cylinder?)


Grateful for your coments so far, any more specific info would be great, cheers.

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Has anyone bought spare fuses for the 2018 model People S150? I've only had this scooter a few weeks.

My auto-store won't sell me fuses unless I specify 'flat' (i.e. 'knife-blade') or 'glass cylindrical' (cartridge) types.

I have no clue about this stuff.

The People S150 printed owner's manual only gives (on page 45) the fuse specifications as 10A 15A and 25A - nothing about 'flat' or 'cylindrical', nor does the accompanying photograph show this, it's just an indistinct black mass photographed, of the battery area where presumably the fuses insert somewhere. 

Yet the fuse section in my auto-store has many different looking types (not just 'glass cylindrical') including all varieties of flat plastic 'wedge-blade' fuses ('mini' and assorted sizes) and others I've not seen before.

I want spare fuses in case I need to call roadside assistance, as my last 2 Kymcos have both had blown fuses and I've had to learn on the spot, while broken down, how and where to replace them, as roadside assist services around here are often nearly as clueless as me about two wheeled vehicles, they really only know cars, so without my having spare fuses on hand to guide them in such a scenario, the most they could probably do is tow my fused scooter to my dealer's mechanic workshop.

This has me quite bamboozled, can anyone enlighten me?

Cheers.

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