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People 50 / Re: Kymco People 50 - Not A Morning Scooter!
« on: October 27, 2010, 04:14:36 AM »
Okay, still haven't gone one single week without having a problem with this scooter. Here's the latest:

Definitely found out the main problem was the CDI connection (not necessarily the CDI). The wiring inside the 4-port terminal was loose and I was getting a bad connection. I fiddled with it for a week before I soldered it to the terminal post. I kid you not, it ran for one night perfectly... and then the next morning, NOTHING! I haven't been able to start it since... no switch or kick. I've bought 2 different CDIs... one AC and one DC. Neither one will work. I definitely fried the AC one (started to bubble) and blew a fuse.

I've emailed numerous moped places but still no one seems to know whether the Kymco People 50 2005 is AC or DC. Also, the ports on the stock CDI are backwards (4-port on the right, 2-port on the left) from the other CDIs I've purchased (and seen). I'm tempted to buy the Kymco stock CDI but it's about $62 (I bought the other CDIs for under $30 total). I'm also not convinced this is my only electrical problem. Very very rarely I can get the scooter going by messing with some of the wires but it dies almost immediately.

I looked up the wiring diagram for the Kymco People but naturally it's blurry as hell when I print it out and can't really be deciphered (all the other pages print out fine).

Surely the moped Gods hate me.


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People 50 / Re: Kymco People 50 - Not A Morning Scooter!
« on: October 05, 2010, 03:20:52 PM »
Well despite some of the signs (mainly the size) that the CDI unit on a Kymco People 50 is DC... I'm pretty sure now that it's AC. I turned the scooter on, disconnected the battery and she stayed running. If I'm not mistaken this means the scooter runs on AC?

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People 50 / Re: Kymco People 50 - Not A Morning Scooter!
« on: September 29, 2010, 07:47:18 PM »
Yeah my brother fixes and builds custom/vintage tube amplifiers so he's got all kinds of secret weapons against metal/electrical connections getting corroded. I'm ordering a new CDI but he said he'd take a look at the old one. I guess the metal can be retensioned, then cleaned and protected with some serious solvent he's got.

I'll post with the info on the CDI I purchased. I'm assuming the Kymco People requires a DC CDI, not AC, based on what I've read.

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People 50 / Re: Kymco People 50 - Not A Morning Scooter!
« on: September 29, 2010, 02:27:15 PM »
Also, the scooter started up no problem this morning. If we make it through the rest of the week without having a problem, I"ll be shocked. I only say that because we haven't gone an entire week yet without something going bonkers on her. I'm pretty certain that once I replace the CDI she'll be right as rain.

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People 50 / Re: Kymco People 50 - Not A Morning Scooter!
« on: September 29, 2010, 02:14:34 PM »
@art - Sweet. I'll definitely give those a try and report back. Found a few of your posts about drilling into the air box. Can't wait to try it out.

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People 50 / Re: Kymco People 50 - Not A Morning Scooter!
« on: September 29, 2010, 12:40:53 AM »
Well let me start off by saying thank you to the warm welcome. This forum is great (I've been reading it over the last few months) and decided to join because everyone here is so helpful and positive.

Let me also say that my Kymco is a 2005 not a 2003... that was my goof.

Okay so I went over to the scooter this afternoon and sure enough, she started up after 2 kicks. Then I let her sit for a minute and tried again, nothing. I tried a few more times to no avail. So I went through and sprayed the kill switch, ignition, etc with the electrical contact spray. I opened up the front and found the CDI box (doesn't have a green wire running out the bottom, probably because it's a 2005?). But I did notice that there was a lot of corrosion on the terminal post for the black (yellow-striped) wire which, if I'm not mistaken, runs to the Ignition Coil. I cleaned it and scraped it off as best I could (the metal is definitely discolored and seems pitted, most likely from the poor contact) put the connection back together and... SHE STARTED RIGHT UP! Of course the real test will be tomorrow morning. ha. In the meantime I feel it's safe to reward/punish myself by heading over to Checkers for a Big Buford and some Fries.

So anyways, it's probably a good idea to replace the CDI... any suggestions on a brand to replace the stock one? Do they come de-restricted or do I have to cut into them like some people recommend?




 

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People 50 / Re: Kymco People 50 - Not A Morning Scooter!
« on: September 28, 2010, 07:24:45 PM »
Man, I've reading about derestricting the CDI and never really new how to go about it. Thanks for the info on that.

Yeah she was having trouble getting past 40 before the carb clean... but once I cleaned it up, she was hitting 50 pretty easily.

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People 50 / Re: Kymco People 50 - Not A Morning Scooter!
« on: September 28, 2010, 06:15:37 PM »
Thanks a lot ART. I tend to think it's an electrical issue as well... probably explains the sporadic behavior. That's the main reason I'm replacing the Ignition Coil. I'll try some of your suggestions regarding the contact cleaner.

I have noticed a small amount amount of fuel in the air filter at times. I've been told some amount is normal but to watch for excess. I've checked it and cleaned it on numerous occasions.

I'm really digging the Kymco People and I'm ready to start souping her up with a few performance parts as soon as I get this nagging problem figured out.

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People 50 / Kymco People 50 - Not A Morning Scooter!
« on: September 28, 2010, 03:47:21 PM »
My girlfriend and I recently purchased a used 2003 Kymco People 50 with roughly 2800 km. We have had a number of problems with it but mostly it just doesn't run consistently. Some days it starts right up. Other days it doesn't. Usually once it gets started, it runs fine for a day or two.

So far I've managed to:

1. Change the spark plug (NGK BR8HSA) on numerous occasions.
2. Brought it to a local scooter shop in Gainesville, FL for a tune up.
3. Cleaned the carb (the scooter SIGNIFICANTLY improved after doing this)

So cleaning the carb drastically helped the situation but here's the latest problem... I swear this scooter will only start up AFTER 3 PM!!!
In the mornings we go to start up the scooter and NOTHING. If I come back anytime in the afternoon, it turns over with one kick!

Some things to consider:

1. The scooter sits outside, uncovered.
2. We live in Florida and it's not cold in the mornings.
3. It's pretty damp here (especially in the mornings) but the scooter will start up in the afternoon even if it's raining.
4. We are very cautious about when we give it gas on start up (so as not to flood it).
5. We frequently use a small amount of Seafoam in the gas and oil tanks... EVERYONE has warned us about water and ethanol in gas and their effect on 2-strokes.

My next steps are to replace:

1. Fuel Filter
2. Ignition Coil and Spark Plug Cap

Does anyone have any other suggestions or clues as to why this thing won't start in the mornings?




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