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Agility 50 / Re: 2010 agility starter
« on: June 14, 2019, 06:34:10 PM »
I wouldn't order parts until I knew what caused the low compression.  Piston rings, head gasket, valves?  You can diagnose this by removing the head and cylinder without removing the engine.  Plenty of youtube videos on this.  50cc GY6 motors are so similar that a video of installing a GY6 BBK will guide you adequately.  Don't confuse this with the GY6 150.

Gotcha. Ok so ill leave it in then. I was wondering about the bottom end - crank - brgs etc. but of there is no need then that will save me some time. Ill watch some gy6 videos then tear into it.

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Technical | How To / Re: 2010 Kymco Agility
« on: June 14, 2019, 06:31:02 AM »

I don’t understand - How did you manage to do a compression test if the starter motor did not swing the engine ?

Anyway, to determine what needs to be rebuilt I think it will make sense to get a new starter motor first - and then to do a “dry” and “wet” compression test on the engine.
To do a “wet” compression test you just need to squirt a lil’ bit of oil into the engine via the spark plug hole.
If you get a higher compression reading during the “wet” test, it means the cylinder sleave or piston rings are worn, or the ring gap is too big.

If the compression reading remains the same during a “wet” compression test, it means the cylinder head needs a rebuilt.

P.S. IMPORTANT.  If you got that 52 Psi reading while the starter motor was cooking (turning the engine slowly) you should not rely on that initial compression reading. To do a proper compression test the starter motor needs to work properly, and needs to swing the engine properly.

Sorry i should of explained it a bit more. My neighbor has a couple scooters just laying around so i went and took a look and found the same starter on 1 of them so i bench tested it and it ran fine so then i installed that 1 to do the compression test. I did not do a wet test so i will do that first thing in the morning. Also once i installed the good starter and was trying to get it to start there were multiple times when i would try the kick start just to give the electric starter a break and kick start was locked up. Not the actual kick start but the engine few times i couldnt budge the kick starter. Electric starter also a few times would lock up i would then try kick start and same locked up so i would take spark plug out hit tue electric start couple times sometimes that would free it up other times id bump the electric start then really jump on the kick start to free it up.

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Technical | How To / Re: 2010 Kymco Agility
« on: June 14, 2019, 05:47:40 AM »
Rather clip the other end of the earth from the starter flange directly to the earth terminal on the battery, instead of clipping the earth to the frame. That should eliminate the possiblility of a bad earth conection.

Yea i did that and it was toast. Wouldnt turn and started smoking. Did a compression test and 52 psi so time for a rebuild. Should i remove the engine and tear it all the way down? Or leave it in and just do the top end? Never did a rebuild before so i wanna do it the right way. With so many kits out there what and where should i purchase one? Thanks for your help much appreciated. 

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Agility 50 / Re: Compression spec on Agility 50 4T?
« on: June 14, 2019, 04:57:20 AM »
Just picked up a 2010 agility with 100 miles on it. Scoot looks like it just came from dealer. Bad news is i got 52 psi compression. So a rebuild it is. Never done one so excited to tear onto it. Should i remove the motor and tear it all the way down? Or leave it in and just do the too end? So many kits out there any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Agility 50 / Re: 2010 agility starter
« on: June 14, 2019, 04:53:24 AM »
Thanks bud appreciate that. Well verdict is in on a like new mint condition 2010 agility with 100 miles. Motor is no good. 52 psi on compression test. Just hard to believe with only 100 miles which is why i didnt check it till i ran out of options. So since ive never did a rebuild on a scooter any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Should i pull the motor and tear it down all the way? Do i leave it in and maybe just tear top end apart? I wanna do this the right way since it only has 100 miles and is in new condition i for sure want to do a good rebuild where Ill have a great running motor for awhile. After doing a quick search there are so many rebuild kits but i havent come across a complete one say top and bottom also which - what - and where should i purchase my rebuild kit?  Thanks for all your help everyone. Much appreciated.

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Agility 50 / Re: 2010 agility starter
« on: June 13, 2019, 03:43:01 AM »
Where would i find the model # at? I looked and its not even on the title?

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Agility 50 / Re: 2010 agility starter
« on: June 13, 2019, 03:40:58 AM »
Sounds like either the electric hoke is bad, carb needs cleaning, or both.

Yea i just ordered a new one. Im gonna research a bit on this and give it a go tom cleaning it and see. It did sit for a couple yrs so im sure carb is messed up i would think anyway. 2010 with 100 miles on it

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Agility 50 / Re: 2010 agility starter
« on: June 13, 2019, 03:15:17 AM »
*** UPDATE *** Ok guys i finally got it to start!!!! R these auto chokes anygood??? Anyway if i crank it with throttle wide open for roughly a min or so it will start smoke a bit and i have to keep it half throttle or more to keep it running.. wont even try to start with no throttle. So i assume i need to pull carb? Ill research cleaning one never messed with one. Thanks guys!!

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Agility 50 / Re: 2010 agility starter
« on: June 12, 2019, 03:18:37 AM »

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Agility 50 / 2010 agility starter
« on: June 12, 2019, 02:20:08 AM »
Any idea where i might find one? Not having any luck so far.

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Technical | How To / Re: 2010 Kymco Agility
« on: June 12, 2019, 02:04:11 AM »
Having trouble finding starter for it. Anyone know of a place i can get 1. Thanks!

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Technical | How To / Re: 2010 Kymco Agility
« on: June 12, 2019, 01:01:19 AM »
is this the part that clicks when you hit the starter button?

Yes the starter relay. I also assume the red wire with white stripe wont have power till the relay closes (clicks) to relay power to the starter so it will be dead until relay closes if im understanding it all correctly. Soooo took the starter out as ive mentioned previously hooked a wire up to my positive terminal on my battery then to the positive terminal on starter then hooked a ground up,to the flange on the starter then clipped the other end of ground to clean spot on frame and nothing starter still wouldnt work.now again battery showing 12.7 volts so looks like new starter it is. Thoughts? Hopefully this will get it to at least crank over

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Technical | How To / Re: 2010 Kymco Agility
« on: June 11, 2019, 10:49:33 PM »
How much voltage are you getting at the starter relay?

Ok mind you im far from a electrician but solid red wire for relay 12.5 red wire with white stripe ( assume for starter) 0. Battery 12.7 bout to pull my hair out. Wish i knew more about electrical

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Technical | How To / Re: 2010 Kymco Agility
« on: June 11, 2019, 03:27:56 AM »
Didnt get a chance today to check. I will check that in the am. Thanks!

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Technical | How To / Re: 2010 Kymco Agility
« on: June 11, 2019, 02:43:25 AM »
UPDATE - Ok i got it everything off.  All connections are tight and very very clean like new zero corrosion. Still cant get it to turn over with starter button. Relay has a slight click. I can kick start it which is very strong as i suspected since it only has 50 miles on it. Took the starter out looks brand new spins freely by hand. Id hate to have to just start buying parts - relay - starter - ignition coil etc. Any ideas? Thanks!

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