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General Discussion / Re: Stolen Compagno 110i
« on: February 20, 2020, 10:12:38 PM »
Quote from: Kansas kymco on February 20, 2020, 09:47:08 PM
Did you try the parts dept they have diagrams of the whole machine?  I would talk to them in person so they would more likely to help you.

Once i get a ride out to Benton i'll give that a try.  You see when we bought the scooter they were in town not too far away, now they have moved and its a 30 minute drive... Thanks for the advice.

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General Discussion / Re: Stolen Compagno 110i
« on: February 20, 2020, 09:29:21 PM »
Quote from: Kansas kymco on February 20, 2020, 07:35:17 PM
Another otion is to check ebay for a used wire harness  from a salvage bike. They might have replacement panels as well. 

Do you have a local Kymco dealer that would let you look at their service manuals or tell you what the wire configuration is?

It looks like there's 4 dealers in Arkansas PineBluff, Springdale, Jonesboro, Little Rock.

Yeah the stealership wants me to haul the scooter to them and they wont just repair the wiring they want to redo the bezel on the headlight, the trim that was destroyed and all this other stuff. which none of it is covered. its a mess. they did say they would order me the parts, but that i cant just get the connectors i need... and their "kymco guy" was dumbfounded when i told him the wire colors dont match.

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Technical | How To / Compagno 110i
« on: February 20, 2020, 06:56:42 PM »
I found this https://www.repairmanual.com/product/cyclepedia-kymco-compagno-110i-scooter-printed-service-manual/

I've made a few other posts about this, so to make it short, stolen scooter, thieves cut off the connectors that connect the switch to the wiring harness.  If anyone has this manual, could you check to see if it has a picture of the wiring at those two points? If i just knew which wire went where i might be able to wire it directly into the switch. If that is even possible. With it being a kymco the wires are not color coordinated.

I cant fathom spending well over 300 dollars for new harness and lock just so i can get new connectors... that seems ridiculous to me. I'm sure i could find 4p connectors somewhere online like digikey or mouser.

Also, is it weird that this scooter doesnt have a kickstart option? I'm not really that familiar with things outside of the locksmithing realm but it seems odd that if you cant start it electrically you're just sol?

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General Discussion / Re: Stolen Compagno 110i
« on: February 20, 2020, 06:49:43 PM »
Quote from: Kansas kymco on February 20, 2020, 03:41:02 PM
It sucks you're having to go through this.  Low life's are everywhere so stay vigilant.   You should be able to get a shop manual from Cyclepedia that would have all the repair information for that scooter.

Yeah i did find this https://www.repairmanual.com/product/cyclepedia-kymco-compagno-110i-scooter-printed-service-manual/

Far better then spending 260 for a new harness and 90 for a new lock just to get the connectors i need... Hopefully it is possibly to directly wire into the switch without the connectors but i'm afraid something might be fused or have a resistor inbetween the connections. I did find out that it is 1 4pin 2 pron connector and then the blue/yellow wire connects by itself to something... If i just had a picutre of the the connectors actually... connected that would help me

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General Discussion / Re: Stolen Compagno 110i
« on: February 20, 2020, 06:45:25 PM »
I'm in Arkansas actually. And yeah the fork lock isn't much. The pin itself might be made out of stainless steel but you can easily break it free with enough force.  I just cant get over how they blow torched it. I'll post pictures tomorrow!

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General Discussion / Stolen Compagno 110i
« on: February 20, 2020, 03:23:51 PM »
I'll post pics if you guys want to see this mess.

While hanging out with my friend one night someone either walked off with or loaded up my scooter in a truck somehow without me noticing. Like an idiot i didnt have the fork lock on so yeah probably my fault.  Oh and it just so happens my friend has cerebral palsy so they indirectly stole from a disabled kid since we were at his house.

Fast forward 3 months. Police show up at my door 9am on a sunday. They say theyve found it and its not running.  i have 20 minutes to get half way across town to pick it up.  Otherwise they plan to impound it and i'll have to pay to get it out.  Refuses to give me ride back down there, even though he was going that way.  So luckily i make it in time, and luckily some nice old lady let me leave it at her house long enough to pick it up the next day once i found someone with a truck.

So scooter recovered... and like i said i'll post pics if anyone is interested.

They literally BLOW TORCHED all the trim around the ignition lock assembly. a complete mess. then they clipped the wires right at the connectors, both ends.  It's a nightmare, sadly this was our only method of transportation.  We did get another used scooter that barely runs but now it has gone from only kick starting to now the direct drive is broken somehow.  I'm having a lot of fun here as you guys can tell.

So im a locksmith by trade and im pretty good at working on these switches and what not, i had no trouble getting it apart to try to fix the wiring. but none of the wires match color wise.  and so here i am trying all these different combinations of wires and nothing works.
And with it being a 2018 compagno 110i there is hardly anything online for me to look at. I'm not even sure if its possible to wire directly to the switch. 

tl;dr make sure you use a fork lock and just because you think your scooter is safe doesnt mean it is. also, kymco is weird.

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General Discussion / Re: Kymco Links
« on: February 20, 2020, 02:47:17 PM »
I am looking for some kind of wiring diagram for a 2018 Kymco compagno 110i.  I can link to my thread in that sub section but basically some thieves torched the trim to get to the wires and cut both of the connectors off and im trying to correctly wire it directly to the back of  the switch and im having no luck with all the combinations ive tried.  Maybe someone can even tell me if its even possible to do that?

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Compagno 50i and 110i / Re: Wiring HELP!
« on: February 18, 2020, 02:27:41 PM »
Believe me I have scoured search engines.  Everything that comes up is some other model. There is very little on the 110 compagno.
Seems like the agility is the most common, and everything that does come up for compagno is related to the 50. The closest ive gotten was scooterdynasty having a 50 ignition lock asembly which is very close to the one i have taken off right now. If i could only see how the two plugs interact i might be able to wire it directly, correctly. Unless something else happens at the plugs.

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Compagno 50i and 110i / Wiring HELP!
« on: February 17, 2020, 11:00:32 PM »
ok if this thread gets any hits i can post pics. they want 250 for a new harness and 90 for a new lock assembly.
scooter was stolen, they blow torched the trim to get to the lock assembly wiring. cut it behind both 5p connectors.
ofc with it being a kymco the wire colors dont match, i cant just easily wire it straight into the back of the switch. i need help.
coming out of the back of switch ive got 2 green, 1 black, 1 red, 1 blue with yellow stripe. coming from the battery, etc, ive got 2 red (1 thick 1 thin) 2 black with blue stripe, and 1 solid black(thinner). they are grouped 2 red 1 black with blue and then 1 black with blue and thin black.  ive tried extending the wires out of the back of the switch and tried just about every combination. is there possibly a fused connector im missing or something? i cant figure this out, cant afford new harness, and this is my only transportation. any help is appreciated.

Edit: i think there are two connectors. two prong four pin, and the blue yellow wire connects by itself to something.  Id like to explore just finding some suitable connectors and maybe even resoldering new wire to the back of the switch.  If i only knew what wire went where. I just cant afford 250 for a whole new harness and another 90 for a new lock... the one i have is fine just the ends are clipped. 

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