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Technical | How To / Re: repair manuas
« on: February 27, 2012, 09:02:09 PM »
Just wanted to put some closure on my issue. There are always so many dead end threads that I look at trying to find an answer only to find people with the same problem and no solution.  :)

It was the stator/pickup. It was reading open, so I took it t the shop.

Had the Kymco dealer swap it out. They even checked to see if the warranty was still good, but I missed it by a few months. In any case, all is well, and she's running like a dream!

Thanks!
--Kevin

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Hey Wally,

Any word on that install? Just hoping you didn't pop yourself in the face with that clutch bell and take yourself out of the game.   :(

Here's hoping you're just too busy riding to post up in here!!

Thanks!
--Kevin

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Super 8 150 / Re: New Super 8 150 NEED UPGRADE OPTIONS!
« on: February 27, 2012, 08:48:11 PM »
Hey Dudley and Kevmax,

Sorry for the delayed response. I popped a disc in my back and was off the scoot (and everything else for that matter) for a couple of weeks.

I got that new carb dialed in, and man is it awesome. I also did the stator/pickup coil with a NGK spark plug. That cleared up my cold start issue like a dream. Keeping in mind I have over 10k miles on her now...   :D

Dudley, no worries on that 2k rpm clutch spring for this scoot. These aren't cheap Chinese scooters - they're Kymco's!  ;)

Kevmax, if you do the UNI, you'll lhave to address the carb issue at the same time. just openning up the air intake will choke out the carb and if you can even get it to run, it'll be dangerously lean... If you do the UNI, I think most people recommend at least a two size increase in your main jet to get enough gas in there to burn up all that air in the right ratio.


Incidently, now that I've gotten her pretty much perfect for me, Im looking into selling her. I may be getting a new job that will bump my 60 mile per day commute up to 100 miles a day. I just don't have enough time to ride surface streets for 100 miles a day. Wish I did, because I love riding this thing!!!


Thanks!
--Kevin

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Technical | How To / Re: repair manuas
« on: January 31, 2012, 01:24:38 AM »
Thanks Munks and Zombie. Great info there!

I eventually found a wiring diagram of just the ignition circuits and was able to verify continuity to the CDI from the ignition coil, pulser coil, and verified the ignition switch (key) and kill switch are all working properly. I have not verified the regulator yet, but I did a couple months ago and it was good. I'll still check it again since you never know when a problem will come up.

Ignition coil is reading good resistance across primary and secondary with and without cap.

I am getting an open reading on the blue/yellow from the pulser to ground. wonder if I found the culprit. Need to get back home and see how much of a PITA it is to get to for replacement. I don't have access to airtools or any specialty tools anymore. :(

Thanks guys!
--Kevin

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Technical | How To / Re: repair manuas
« on: January 29, 2012, 05:48:22 PM »
Thanks Zombie!

I'm trying to figure out two things.

Is the pulser coil working?
is the ignition coil working?

I get a really lame spark, if at all. sometimes it will turn over for a few seconds with no spark, then almost as soon as I let go of the starter button, I'll get a single spark. Fully charged battery reading about 13V.

history:
I've had starting issues for about a month now. replaced spark plug, vacuum petcock, and then after a shop cleaned my carb, it failed again.
last sunday I got it started after a carb (Keihin) and intake (UNI) replacement, rode to my buddy's house who is a KTM mechanic. He helped me dial in the idle sped and fuel mix.
I rode it great for three days (a little hard to keep her idling cold, but once warm, perfect), but thursday morning it wouldn't start, just turns over and over. I get gas to the carb. but really weak/no spark.
Killed the battery trying it. charged the battery, and tried again this morning. nothing. still lame/no spark.

That seems to be the pattern - it will run great for a day or two and then nothing. I ride home with no sputtering or other signs of anything wrong, turn her off, then 10-12 hours later, she wont start at all. eventually somehow I keep getting it started again, only to repeat the pattern.

The high voltage coil has some odd resistance readings, so I'm questioning that. and I can't figure out how to test the pulser, since the manula calls for testing between the blue/yellow and green. there is no green, but I also read here somewhere that green always jsut means ground. I still can't get a decent reading off the pulser. but earlier you mentioned bad wires/loose connections, so I'm trying figure out how I can bypass the wire harness in places to see if it's really a bad coil, or bad connection.
I couldn't get a clear enough picture of the wiring diagram to know what connections to jump.

Do you know if I should be able to read the pulser coil signal while turning it over? I have a multimeter. I can't tell where the pulser coil wire is supposed to go after it comes out of the engine case and into the harness. I'd like to connect it directly to whatever it's supposed to connect to and bypass the harness.

Thanks bilyum for the recommendation about the condenser. I can't see where there might be one, and that wiring diagram is too dang low resolution.

Zombie, does your wiring diagram have a good enough res to read?

Thanks!
--Kevin

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Super 8 150 / Re: Exhaust for a Super 8 125cc
« on: January 29, 2012, 02:10:53 AM »
Your lucky day :), I just removed my Yoshimura TSC stainless exhaust to sell as im selling my supper 8 150 and i want to sell the exhaust separately.
Yoshimura is a world leader in racing exhaust for bikes and scooters. This Model was made to improve the top end and add torque. The sound is perfect not tooo loud but cars will know you are there for sure. I was very pleased with the sound and improved performance i got from it.
Cost was $348.00 delivered to me. I will sell it for $175 + shipping. If intrested send me a E-Mail and i will send pics and answer all questions.
Bill

Hey Wildbill, you sell that exhaust yet? where are you located? I'm in Phoenix, AZ...


Thanks!
--Kevin

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Super 8 150 / Re: New Super 8 150 NEED UPGRADE OPTIONS!
« on: January 29, 2012, 02:08:52 AM »
Hey Kevmax,

Congrats on the new buy man!

I have an '09 blue and yellow Super 8 and love it.

I removed the license plate holder and all that junk hanging off the back over the rear hugger. I just drilled a little hole in the top center of my plate and bolted it right to the spot that hangar was attached to. the tail light now lights the license plate plenty, and I've never been hassled for it after riding it that way for almost a year now, and regularly at night.

That was free - this was not...

I did the Kevlar belt along with a Naraku High Speed variator and 2000 rpm clutch spring. That made a pretty big difference to me.

Most recently I replaced the stock carb and airbox with a Keihin carb and UNI air filter. still dialing in the right balance of performance and cold starting ability, but I love the new sound of the open air element.

right now she regularly does 73-76 indicated mph with my 240 lb ass on her back.   :D


Good luck and have fun!

--Kevin

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Technical | How To / Re: repair manuas
« on: January 29, 2012, 01:46:20 AM »
Hey Zombie and bilyum,

I have the service manual for the Super 8 50, and you're right bilyum, that wiring diagram is too low a resolution to be legible. So far, the similarities between the manual for the 50, and what I find on my 150, are enough to get me through most everything.

I attached the manual to this post. Not sure how it will show up, but it's a pdf.
Scratch that - it was too big to attach. it looks like there's a 192 KB size limit, and the pdf is 24 MB. Do you know if there's anything that can be done about that?

The problem that brings me back to the forum today is a weak/no spark issue, and after reading what you said zombie, I'm gonna see if I can jump some of the connections and avoid any bad connectors/poor wires. Thanks for the advice!!
and if you don't mind giving the wiring diagram in this pdf a quick look, maybe you can help figure out what to jump where....    ???

Thanks!
--Kevin

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Awesome Wally!

I would definitely do the spring now. It matches rpms to the variator. Your stock belt should be fine for a while.

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Hey Wally,

It's running great and I haven't seen any downside yet. I seem to be getting better gas mileage as well, but will know better in a couple of weeks after I track it regularly.

As for the clutch spring, I think it's a Malossi, but pretty much all 2000 rpm springs for a GY6 are the same.

The Naraku High Speed Variator kit comes with weights already sized for the Super 8 150cc (take a look at the link above to see what all comes in the kit), so I used those and tossed out my flattened OEMs.


Thanks!
--Kevin

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Super 8 150 / Re: rollers/sliders
« on: November 16, 2011, 12:58:52 AM »
Changed my mind on the Dr. Pulleys.

Full post is here for someone searching for upgrade options:

Naraku High Speed Variator, Kevlar belt, 2000 rpm clutch spring = whoa!

http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=3944.msg53213#msg53213

Thanks!
--Kevin

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Super 8 150 / Re: replacement belt for the s-8
« on: November 16, 2011, 12:56:10 AM »
Hey Steve,

I got her back. And man, am I impressed with my new scoot! She's a whole new ride now!!

Instead of completely hijacking this thread, here's a link to the update to my first series of questions relating to performance and other stuff:

http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=3944.msg53213#msg53213

Get those pieces and do the work yourself. You will love it!


Thanks!
--Kevin

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Got her back Thursday morning and haven't stopped riding long enough to post the results of the upgrade...   ;D ;D ;D

I am seriously blown away by the improvement!!

I thought there may be some negligible difference in either top end speed or quickness of acceleration, but was completely caught off-guard by the increased acceleration AND top end speed!!


Before and after comparison:

Acceleration

Then - It was mostly controled by engine speed (meaning the engine didn't really spool up until I was rolling along at maybe 20-25 mph). The clutch would engage pretty early in the throttle and we would build engine RPMs and speed together at a decent pace. It was fun... I would typically be a little quicker, or even with cars at the stoplight if we were front-row.
Now - Holy crap! Engine revs build immediately (I figure at least twice as much higher RPM per mph as before up to almost top speed) and now the scooter accelerates like the throttle is a rubber band. The engine jumps up in revs as soon as you twist, and then (almost immediately) the speed picks up faster and faster and faster and faster until the CVT catches up with the RPMs. This is ridiculous fun now!!! I mean, I am braking in places I normally never needed to in the parking lots I frequent every day at work and home. Those front row stoplight ‘races’ are no contest now unless someone really is wanting to race. I twist, and pull away at every single light now.   :D  I actually pop the front wheel up from a dead stop. But I do ride from the passenger position and weigh 240 pounds. I have to lean forward from a dead stop to keep the front end down. We think this is more a function of the clutch fly-out springs (not replaced) “popping” the clutch and engaging quicker instead of slow and smooth. I like it. It stays.

There was a significant flat spot in acceleration if I was rolling along at 30-40 mph and hit the throttle - it would chug along up to speed as the engine RPMs increased…
This flat spot is completely gone – not moved up or down in the speedo somewhere – gone! I have tried roll-on pulls from every speed in 5 mph increments, and she pulls hard at every speed! Even when I’m doing 55 at half-throttle, I twist and have to lean forward!

Top Speed

Then - Top speed was regularly at about 61 mph +/- a few mph. Maybe get up to 63/64 on a really long straight. She seemed to have had a bit better top speed when I first picked her up. I recall being pretty impressed when she would get to almost 70 mph… I suppose time and wear probably sapped some of that out. I would occasionally go on the freeway if there was plenty of traffic to keep speeds below 55 mph. Posted speed around here is 65 mph, and there is no way I could keep up with the ‘normal’ 75 mph flow of non-rush hour traffic.

Now – I figured I would be disappointed in the top speed after getting such gains in acceleration. When I picked her up from the shop, I didn’t really have much opportunity to ‘get on it’ and stretch her legs out. Surface streets during rush hour… I did notice that I was now using the throttle for actual speed regulation instead of using it like an on/off switch. I would catch up to cars and have to cut back to half or even quarter throttle to stay at their speed of about 50-55 mph. Then I got closer to my office and a wide-open mile-long stretch… 73 MPH!!!! NOT downhill – NO tailwind! Just a long flat stretch and wide open throttle with me tucked in behind the windscreen like a retarded salt flats racer from the 40’s. Seventy-three friggin miles per hour?!?! OK, OK, I know – the speedo is inaccurate, so I do know I’m not actually doing 73. BUT, I am only comparing my own before and after speedo numbers. That’s about 9-10 mph faster! And it gets there sooner than it got to 61! That 63-64 mph from before was pushin’ it after about 2 miles of no stop flat-out straight. Now she just thrums right up to 72-73 mph without batting an eye.

I am completely thrilled with what The Urban Commuter hooked me up with, and am happy to pay them the retail instead of internet price to keep them in business. Probably only cost me 30-40 bucks more to shop with them than online anyway, and I like having a place I can walk into and talk to real people – no offense.  ;)

I would have done the work myself had I decide to ‘upgrade’ instead of breaking down only a mile from their shop. I could have gotten it done in my own timeframe and saved some cheddar, but, like I said, I like to support local shop owners when I can.

I didn’t buy from these sites, but here are the parts I used, with the exception of the clutch spring (I think it’s a Malossi, but would have to verify with Pat)

The belt is a Malossi Kevlar 795-19.8-30 for Kymco and Malaguti scooters.
The first place that popped up in my google search when I put in Malossi 795-19.8-30

http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/795-19-8-30-malossi-x-kevlar-cvt-belt-kymco-malaguti.html


Naraku High Speed Variator Kit for Kymco 150
This comes with 10.3 and 11.5 gram rollers for use in the Kymco 150s. We have different final gearing requiring heavier weights.
Again, didn’t buy from this site, but this is what the shop got for me.
http://www.scootertronics.com/variatorkit2.html

2000 RPM clutch spring put into my existing clutch which Pat said was still good and had no gloss on it.

For anyone who is skipping to the bottom because I friggin’ write too much:

GET THE NARAKU HIGH SPEED VARIATOR AND KEVLAR BELT WITH 2000 RMP CLUTCH SPRING.

It’s awesome.


Thanks!
--Kevin

Oh yeah, I did the brakes at the same time. EBC of course. Thank God I did! This thing hauls ass now!
!

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Super 8 150 / Re: replacement belt for the s-8
« on: November 09, 2011, 09:14:39 PM »
Hey Steve,

Still in the shop waiting on the variator. The supplier had told my shop it was in stock, but it wasn't. Then it was on backorder from Naraku...

Hopefully today! :p

--Kevin

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Super 8 150 / Re: replacement belt for the s-8
« on: October 20, 2011, 09:19:16 PM »
Hi Steve,

Well, I broke down just a mile away from my preferred local scooter shop and decided to support them instead of the interweb...  ;)
I know I'll pay a little more, but it's nice to support local shop owners and be able to walk in and talk to someone who knows what they're really doing. I probably learned more in five minutes talking to Pat than I have in three days of scouring the web.
I didn't do my shopping online, but I did get the part numbers and descriptions form the Urban Commuter here in Tempe, AZ. I went to them instead of the local Kymco shop because the Kymco shop pretty much does repair only, and the Urban Commuter does performance stuff on top of just repairs. I have always preferred to upgrade whatever breaks and expose my next weakest link. Then when that breaks, upgrade it, and so on...


The belt is a Malossi Kevlar 795-19.8-30 for Kymco and Malaguti scooters.
The first place that popped up in my google search when I put in Malossi 795-19.8-30

http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/795-19-8-30-malossi-x-kevlar-cvt-belt-kymco-malaguti.html


And instead of having him resurface my variator and put in Dr. Pulley sliders, I decided to get a whole new variator and clutch spring since I'm in there. Back to my preference to upgrade instead of replace with stock.

Naraku High Speed Variator Kit for Kymco 150
This comes with 10.3 and 11.5 gram rollers for tuning
Again, not buying from this site, but this is what the shop is getting for me.
http://www.scootertronics.com/variatorkit2.html


Also doing a 2000 rpm clutch spring which we may end up changing after I get on and ride a little (I weigh 240 lbs and ride like the throttle is an on-off switch. Wide open or slamming the brakes  ::) ). Pat said the clutch still looked great, and just a new spring to match the variator would be best.

I will definitely update you on how she runs. I'm stoked to get back on and see what it's like!!

Thanks!
--Kevin

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