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Technical | How To / Re: 2S People 50 starting issues, BACKFIRES, SMOKES, cuts out when riding. HELP!
« on: August 13, 2020, 07:51:00 PM »
it DOES seem like intermittent spark, which is why i have changed ignition coils (unless they are ALL bad), plugs of course, and even the rotor thing that sends the signal for the spark. i read that these have two sparks for every cycle, one being a dead spark (can't remember the real name), but that seems weird that there would be a second spark, seems like it would tear up plugs faster. anyway, when you say the the CAP on the plug wire could short out, what would it short out to? i could understand the wire shorting out to a grounded frame part, but i would think the only thing the cap could short out to would be the plug, unless it jumped all the way to the engine head...
also, i watched a good video of a guy rebuilding a carb on a K50 2T, but his carb had a place for the oil tube to come into the carb, whereas all three of mine have the oil come into the manifold right after the vacuum hose to the petcock, and before the engine, with no stub on the carb for another hose. did they switch that over at some point? i have 50's from 2001 to 2008... and speaking of petcocks, i have been told that the ones with the filter inside are not good PCs. i would think that the filter should be replaceable, but on Kymco's diagram there isn't one that looks like the paper filter inside it. they do have a part called People 50 - SCREEN FUEL STRAINER - 16952-KEC8-9000, but that part looks to me like the oil strainer. maybe they just used a stock diagram for the fuel filter, which was an oil strainer, i have seen them do that. and most peeps don't carry it, as most Taiwan Kymmy parts anymore. and is there an easy way to test the PC? have one person suck on the vacuum line while the other blows thru the input line? think my brake bleeder vacuum thingy would also do, but can't find it...
One more thing, in this video, this guy takes out the fuel/air mixture screw, and it has the little washer, but also a little black O ring. all three of mine have the tiny washer, but no O ring on any of them. chance that all of them were rebuilt before me and three different peeps left out the O ring? is it an important part? or maybe his carb is slightly different than all 3 of mine cuz mine have the different oil entry point?
sorry for so much stuff, this stuff has really puzzling me for years.
also, i watched a good video of a guy rebuilding a carb on a K50 2T, but his carb had a place for the oil tube to come into the carb, whereas all three of mine have the oil come into the manifold right after the vacuum hose to the petcock, and before the engine, with no stub on the carb for another hose. did they switch that over at some point? i have 50's from 2001 to 2008... and speaking of petcocks, i have been told that the ones with the filter inside are not good PCs. i would think that the filter should be replaceable, but on Kymco's diagram there isn't one that looks like the paper filter inside it. they do have a part called People 50 - SCREEN FUEL STRAINER - 16952-KEC8-9000, but that part looks to me like the oil strainer. maybe they just used a stock diagram for the fuel filter, which was an oil strainer, i have seen them do that. and most peeps don't carry it, as most Taiwan Kymmy parts anymore. and is there an easy way to test the PC? have one person suck on the vacuum line while the other blows thru the input line? think my brake bleeder vacuum thingy would also do, but can't find it...
One more thing, in this video, this guy takes out the fuel/air mixture screw, and it has the little washer, but also a little black O ring. all three of mine have the tiny washer, but no O ring on any of them. chance that all of them were rebuilt before me and three different peeps left out the O ring? is it an important part? or maybe his carb is slightly different than all 3 of mine cuz mine have the different oil entry point?
sorry for so much stuff, this stuff has really puzzling me for years.