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Agility 50 / Instrument panel bulb replacement
« on: July 13, 2022, 06:21:49 PM »
Hi I am having great difficulty trying to remove my bulbs from the instrument panel.
I can not for the life of me seem to pull out the flasher & full beam lamps.
Is there any special technique to getting them out.
Here is an image of them I got 2 out easy but these won't budge and i don't wan to rip the wires out.
I did remove the outer casing but the cover looks like it's not removable so can't do from the front.

And is this a suitable replacement.

Head light pilot 12v.17w
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131814398868?hash=item1eb0c01b94:g:COQAAOSwCH1h8ezf

Speedo/Fuel 12v 1.7w
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141993157846?hash=item210f73a4d6:g:jCUAAOSw7W5XN4pV

If anyone knows the sizes for the like 501 for speedo/286 for head light pilot ect could you please post them for me.

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Agility 50 / Re: Engine replacement for 2008 bike
« on: July 09, 2022, 08:03:27 PM »
Yeah it runs, Manged to get it running but it blew the rear brake light and i can not put the bulb back in :(
The lights worked for about 20 seconds and now nothing so i will have to investigate that.
Does any one know what voltages i should get off the yellow and white wire from the magneto ?
Also how do i remove the rear light cluster so i can see why the buld wont twits and stay in ?

But at least it starts for now.

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Agility 50 / Re: Engine replacement for 2008 bike
« on: July 08, 2022, 10:33:41 AM »
Will do I wot give up on that old engine i will strip it as it looks like may have a kit on it & do a proper rebuild and see if i can get it running on a bench.
My new engine is here and that is different from the pics i posted from the advert.
This has the pairing system removed and the hole that is left is blanked off by default so possibly another kit on it ?
I will try and get it fitted this weekend and let you know how i get on.

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Agility 50 / Re: Engine replacement for 2008 bike
« on: July 07, 2022, 08:42:58 PM »
I am going to email the dealer i got the engine off and ask what those values/sensors are as it has 2 wires that are not on the current engine.
And see if i can sort it from there if not i will get that online subscription and speak to their tech team.
Thanks for all your help it's much appreciated.

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Agility 50 / Re: Electricial spares and general wiring advice.
« on: July 07, 2022, 08:40:26 PM »
I'd suggest getting the cyclepedia shop manual for your scoot. It should give you the wiring diagrams, vacuum hose routing, etc. Or subscribe to the online version and as Stig says, you can actually speak with people/ techs to help diagnose your problems.

link: https://www.cyclepedia.com/online-manuals/kymco-atv-scooter-online-repair-manuals/kymco-agility-50-scooter-online-service-manual/

Thanks that looks ideal, The online subscription with help is well worth it.

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Agility 50 / Re: Engine replacement for 2008 bike
« on: July 07, 2022, 04:38:26 PM »
welcome to the forum. sounds like you have a major project ahead of you! I can answer a few things...these scoots use a CV carb. The throttle only opens the butterfly, it doesn't move the needle. The butterfly opening will allow airflow in which in turn will raise the needle.

The open pipe on your cvt cover (by the kickstarter) is for a cooling air intake. There is usualy some little rubber intake boot on there but I don't think it makes any difference if it's on there or not.

It looks like someone butchered up the motor...parts are missing for the emissions and vacuum lines. Have you priced out a motor? Or located one?  Not sure how available they will be... Not a whole lot changes on these Kymco models so I bet motors from many different years would likely be interchangeable.

Ok i just managed to get this 2018 the seller said it would be compatible are those 2 silver/gold sensors what you said where missing ?
If so great but i will have to ask where they will connect to once it arrives.




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Agility 50 / Re: Electricial spares and general wiring advice.
« on: July 07, 2022, 04:31:59 PM »
Crossbolt is correct with the lights...my People S200 does not turn the lights on until the scooter is running but my Honda Helix does turn the lights on with the key. Sorry, not much help, here.

That's ok let hope the new engine will fit as you said parts where missing from my other post.
I will post some pic of the new engine in that thread if you could take a look.

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Agility 50 / Re: Electricial spares and general wiring advice.
« on: July 07, 2022, 04:07:02 PM »
Thanks for replying all the info i have is its a 2008 model as i only have the green slip and the dvla info just states 1st registered in feb 2008.
I wish i could give more info is there any photos i can take that may help ?

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Agility 50 / Re: Electricial spares and general wiring advice.
« on: July 07, 2022, 12:33:45 PM »
Found the broken wires and got the indicators fixed, Also brake light sorted now just the main lights to sort but i believe i need it running to sort them correct ?

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Agility 50 / Electricial spares and general wiring advice.
« on: July 07, 2022, 08:27:37 AM »
Hi Again
So from my previous post i have a pet pig project that will need a new engine which i am hoping to try and get today.
I was told all the electrics where good but they are not so i need to get into these as well.
So only 1 indicator seems to work and no lights although the pass button seems ok.
I have had a good browse through about 60 pages and found the wiring diagrams but have a few question regarding the electrics.

The battery is dead so i can use a car battery for testing but am unsure if the lights are only supposed to only work when the engine is running ?

I was going to get a spare regulator/rectifier & new flasher relay as i do not trust any part on this bike, Is there anything else i should grab before i try and fit the new engine ?

Can i trace out the wires/switch gear ok with the 12v battery or will i need it running before i can fully test the lights ?

Sorry if i am being a pain but all these new bike i have never worked on, lots of old BSA/Kart/Pit bike engines ect.. but nothing modern.

Also could someone post me a picture of the carp/vacuum tube layouts so i can use those as a reference thanks.

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Agility 50 / Re: Engine replacement for 2008 bike
« on: July 06, 2022, 08:50:06 PM »
Thanks for the reply that clears a lot up, yeah it's a big project but should be fun.
I have found 2018 and 2020 engines although the 2020 has no kick start, i think i will take a punt on the 2018 looks like it should fit ok.

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Agility 50 / Engine replacement for 2008 bike
« on: July 06, 2022, 07:30:57 PM »
Hi
I just got a pig of a bike as a project to work on with my daughter and it's a mess.
So i am looking to replace the engine as this looks like it may have a big bore kit on and been messed with.
Now i am a pit bike guy so all of this is new to me so bare with if if i get the names wrong.
I did try starting the bike but no joy, it seems to have a spark and fuel but i did notice the needle in the carb does not move when moving the throttle is this a normal thing to do with the electronic choke ?
I tried lifting it and squirted some fuel in but no joy so i am just going to give up and get a replacement engine for it.
Will a 2018 model engine fit it ?
There are a lot of missing vacuum pipes by the looks of things and some other probs with the lights and indicators that i need to go through with you guys at some point but my main concern at the moment is getting a new lump here ready to fit once its all stripped down.
Here are a couple of pics the carb look fairly new as shown in the attached pic, so i hope that's fine.
You can see this metal breather pipe has been cut and it looks like the place where it should connect is blanked off hence thinking it has a kit on it.
Finally on the case that has the kickstart on the is a 1 inch pipe missing as shown in the attached pics where would that attach ?

Yeah the instant gasket is nasty, and the blue wire is to jump start it as the starter relay is a no go.






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