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LIKE 200i / Re: Kymco like 200i won't crank.
« on: August 11, 2022, 02:26:49 PM »
Quote from: Stig / Major Tom on August 11, 2022, 12:50:06 PM
Well, sorry t hear that Rusty
Could you describe as fully as possible what you were doing when it quit on you.
Going up a hill...really long hill"...wide open throttle?....very hot day?....using decent brand of fuel?....been riding very long that day?

OK....I'm no engine rebuild expert of any kind....but, I would remove the valve cover and look at things there. Anything obviously out of order?
This sounded dumb to me - but was tried with success by an owner with an engine which had tightened up on him, and shut off.
He put a small amount of oil into the cylinder via the spark plug hole. Replaced the spark plug, let it sit for a few hours - hit the start button and it turned over and started - with a good bit of smoke until the oil cleared.

Kick that around with some of your engine friends - don't take my advice on something like that.

Probably doesn't make you feel any better - but I'm pretty certain that yours is the first report of a non-50CC Kymco engine which has done this.

Stig

Hey Stig,

I live in Washington, and this particular hill has a pretty decent incline and is about 2.5 miles long. Throttle was wide open and the weather was probably about 70. Keep in mind i am a bigger guy myself. Fuel was decent. Had filled up at shell. Everything under the valve cover looks nice and clean. Cams look smooth (No gouges) something just seems to stopping the motor from moving foward. though it does move if i rotate clockwise. I feel like i have a bent valve.

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LIKE 200i / Re: Kymco like 200i won't crank.
« on: August 11, 2022, 04:57:23 AM »
Quote from: Stig / Major Tom on August 10, 2022, 08:46:07 PM
It's a 14mm, and with the spark plug removed the engine will spin easily....0 compression.
I've adjusted my LIKE200I valves this was many times....why?..because it puts you on same side of engine which has the port for observing your TDC timing mark!
IF engine does not spin freely - Stop!
Might be seized !....which will be the first recorded case of a seized engine on a LIKE200I on this forum!......and I should have believed this man from the get go🙃
OP...do as you see fit.

Stig

So uhh, looks like i might be the first case. I took out the spark plug and tried to rotate the 14mm plastic nut. It wouldn't budge. So i took off the CVT cover and tried the 17mm CVT nut and it was only allowing it me to make a minor turn. I did try to start the bike and actually heard it try to turn over for a microsecond. Looks to be a possible case of a seized engine.

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LIKE 200i / Re: Kymco like 200i won't crank.
« on: August 10, 2022, 02:30:16 PM »
No, that's the weird part. I took the starter out and tested it with jumpers and a 12v marine battery and it was fine. For whatever reason it seem like the engine is seized.

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LIKE 200i / Re: Kymco like 200i won't crank.
« on: August 08, 2022, 01:30:06 AM »
Quote from: Ruffus on August 07, 2022, 08:13:06 AM
IMHO we are talking two different issues here in this case.
A) motor does not spin
gives several points to check why...


-starter itself too less power from battery
-battery cables really tight
-starter relais
-ground cabling
-battery
-all switches
-fuses again and their terminals

B) motor stalls during ride (if runs?)
-again harness
-ignition coil
-sparkplug and cap incl. high tension cable
(frails out sometimes, causes such symptoms)

C) ECU big plug correct set?
For now the failure code can be neclected, see them later.

All this points should be checked and ruled out before any sparepart is bought.

Thank you for the advice. What's a good way of going and checking all the systems. Haven't done much electrical troubleshooting before.

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LIKE 200i / Re: Kymco like 200i won't crank.
« on: August 08, 2022, 12:18:58 AM »
No, more like i just don't hear a crank, The lights dim when i hold the starter. I hear the fuel pump and starter relay, but the bike doesn't even try to turn over. That's why i keep thinking the engine seized.

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LIKE 200i / Re: Kymco like 200i won't crank.
« on: August 07, 2022, 05:52:45 AM »
Terminal resistance seemed to jump around from .6 to .8. Resistance from the spark plug wire end jumped around as well. Seemed to settle at 13.5

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LIKE 200i / Re: Kymco like 200i won't crank.
« on: August 06, 2022, 11:29:32 PM »
Tested the starter motor. Looks like it's working just fine.

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LIKE 200i / Re: Kymco like 200i won't crank.
« on: August 06, 2022, 07:05:44 PM »
Worth buying a new coil pack? Any good place to buy a new one? Engine did not spin.

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LIKE 200i / Re: Kymco like 200i won't crank.
« on: August 06, 2022, 04:33:43 PM »
Starter relay seems fine. Jumped the solenoid and it sparked and made. Maybe starter or coil pack?

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LIKE 200i / Re: Kymco like 200i won't crank.
« on: August 06, 2022, 02:25:15 AM »
Red Kill switch was in the run postion. Yes. i checked all the fuses that were near the battery. I saw 2 and both were fine when i checked them with my multimeter. Headlight is on with the key. Fuel pump does turn on, and Brake light does go off when grasping the brake lever. Good amount of oil as i had just changed it a few hundred before this, still looked fresh when i pulled it this morning. Cable is in good condition just as in the photo above.

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LIKE 200i / Re: Kymco like 200i won't crank.
« on: August 05, 2022, 01:42:57 PM »
Hey Major Tom,

Thank you for all of the help. It's a 2018 Kymco like 200i that i bought direct from the dealer. No crashes or anything, scooter has never been downed unless it just accidently fell over, though i can't remember a time it has happened. Has 3,000 miles on it and started doing this after i went up a steep hill. Almost makes me think i blew the motor out. I unhooked the negative from the battery post and cleaned it like you stated. Still getting the same six flashes but this time i saw it 4 times in a row.

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LIKE 200i / Re: Kymco like 200i won't crank.
« on: August 05, 2022, 02:57:50 AM »
Got the new battery today. Still won't crank (Turnover) Keeps giving me 6 flashes with a short pause and then another 6. All the fuses seem to be okay. Im flabbergasted at this point. Is there a way to turn the motor over manually?

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LIKE 200i / Re: Kymco like 200i won't crank.
« on: August 03, 2022, 02:05:07 PM »
Hey all,

Thanm you for yhe advice. I have a new Battery that should be here tomorrow. Won't crank as Won't turn over. Bike just shows the 6 flashes and shuts off when I hit the ignition.

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LIKE 200i / Kymco like 200i won't crank.
« on: August 02, 2022, 03:19:52 AM »
Was riding up a hill when my Like 200i suddenly stopped working. Tried to start, but getting 6 flashes with a pause and then another 6 after that. Any ideas? Doesn't seem to crank.

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