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Downtown 300 / Re: reserve tank???
« on: June 17, 2013, 07:28:12 AM »
Does anyone know how many miles you can go once the fuel gauge starts flashing?

Flashing about 2-2.5L to empty. My average is 25km/L (~50km-62.5km)
Yellow Fuel light "ON" 0.5L to empty.(~12.5km)

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Downtown 300 / Re: Tires
« on: July 11, 2012, 03:00:28 PM »
Metzeler Feelfree, so far so good.

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Downtown 300 / Re: Which brand of oil do you use?
« on: July 11, 2012, 02:55:48 PM »









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Downtown 300 / Re: Factory Windshield
« on: July 11, 2012, 02:48:35 PM »
Non adjustable.

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Downtown 300 / Re: Drinkholder
« on: July 11, 2012, 02:46:13 PM »







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And Maxsym 400 here in Singapore initially cost only about USD$600 more than Downtown.
Knowing it's potential and cheaper selling price, the agent raise another $400 more.

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BTW in real world situation, 2012 Downtown can do an average of 27km/l and before july 2011 can do average of 30km/l and that is not base on company promoting Downtown but from owners like you and me giving their feedback.

If you guys that think 25km/l is good for 300cc wait till you see this 400cc Sym Maxsym. It can do an average of between 22km/l to 25km/l.

Off Topic a bit but just to show that good fuel consumption don't just apply to small scooter.

post #1042

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/330997-SBF-MaxSym-Cafe?p=7442164&viewfull=1#post7442164

Quote:My maxsym is 2500km now. No modification. Fuel economic is 26-23 km/L my normal speed is 100-120 at high way and 60-80 at normal road. 5k-6k RPM will give you 100-125km/h already. Top speed i ever try is 150km/h at 7k RPM ,the red zone start from 8k RPM which means still got room to increase but i dear not to try. Cruising at 130km/h is pice of cake for this baby

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In case you do not already know.
Model production from july 2011 onwards with revise full stand and added hazard light option are improved version with lower power and rpm cut @ 7750rpm.
Who would have known an improved version are performing worst off than pre 2012 model.

This should be the official spec circulating around the web for the 2012 model from the Taiwan site.
Then again, for the American or European market may vary but i suspect it should be the same lower powered model as to meet the strict Euro emission standard.

http://www.kymco.com.tw/products/newProduct2010/NIKITA300/standard.html
Scroll all the way down though in chinese you should be able to spot 28ps/7750
Torque 6.7/6500

Those scoot that you tested that are ealier than july 2011 do not count as they are a totally different comparison.
Hope this helps, thanks.

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Then comes the effect of power cut @ 7800rpm.
I managed to go pass the 7800rpm down slope at 8000rpm @ 90mph(144km/h)

I want the original 8500rpm limit!

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Downtown 300 / Re: 2012 Downtown 300i change(s)
« on: March 10, 2012, 09:30:51 AM »
It's a small trade off IMO to have the better fuel consumption then having a scooter with hazard light option but consume higher amount of fuel.

I'll be more than willing to trade my Hazard light option for your fuel consumption though :D

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Circulating around the internet is an average fuel consumption of 30km/l to 36km/l.
Yes! you heard right 36km/l is possible.
I requested my agent to consult over at the Taiwan side regarding Kymco Downtown fuel consumption and the reply indicated fuel consumption @ 27km/l which is what most are getting.

I am just not getting even 26km/l  :-[

My mileage is currently @ >6000km


Just renewed at 5000km:
Redline 5W50
Oil Filter
Air Filter
CR7EIX

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Wanna start this new thread to hopefully find ways to improve the performance and fuel consumption of the 2012 model with lesser power and higher fuel consumption.

After much rave about the Downtown 300i all over the net, i decided to purchase one in August 2011.

The great fuel consumption, power and storage attracted me to this scooter.

I made an order thru the agent and was told that I'll be getting the 2012 model which is an improved model with higher full stand ground clearance, a hazard light option and a reduced in horsepower dropping from 29hp to 27hp. I was like hey it's only 2 horses how bad can it be? Boy! what a difference 2hp makes.

If it's not bad enough with horses dropped, i discovered that it also drink. I consistently get 25km/l and at times down to 22km/l. I feedback to the agent and they claimed that i was heavy handed with the throttle which wasn't the case.

Anyhow, the scooter has been giving me more headache and heartache than pleasure knowing that what I'm getting is not the same scooter as in performance like the internet or owners are claiming.

Beside the higher fuel consumption, there is the issue of vibration when moving off. I have ridden Gilera Runner FXR180, Piaggio Skipper SKR ST150 and Yamaha Majesty YP250 perviously and they all don't have such problems in my 9 years of riding.

I search around the net and found that it's a common problem regarding the judder vibration while moving off and some of the other problems.
I learned that there is an issue of juddering while accelerating but wasn't getting any until recently as the problem of 500rpm drop at 50km/h disappeared.
I am now plague with the fuel injection kinna juddering problem (feels like there is intermittent fuel delivery from the injector) making riding around the range of 22mph(35km/h) to 37mph(60km/h) very irritating and uncomfortable.

I ever exchange the LGE5 variator which came stock with my scooternfor the LEA7 one in an effort to correct the higher fuel consumption i am getting.
After fixing up and went for a test ride and this is my findings.

Initial move off is normal as LGE5, very torquey until 25mph(40km/h) (5000rpm).
From 40km/h onwards, the rpm suddenly dropped to 4000rpm (seems like there is a secondary gear kicking in).
The scooter will drag very slowly with the rpm increasing slowly also to about 90km/h(6000rpm).
At 56mph(90km/h)(6000rpm) the scooter started to breath better and started to slowly come alive.
At around 62mph(100km/h) it felt like it had more power and felt ready to go higher.
I gave it gas and the rpm shot to 6500rpm (peak torque)and the scoot came alive and felt really great as if it wanted to go even faster.
At this point it felt better than the LGE5 variator which never gave me such sensation. Well, maybe it's due to the torturing slow speed before it came actually alive. None the less, it felt better than the LGE5 and feel that it this scoot may actually prefer to travel and cruise at above 75mph(120km/h) all day as lower speed felt like it is actally suffering.

After the test, I immediately switch back to the LGE5 variator as speed below 56mph(90km/h) with the LEA7 is hell and totally  not ride-able.
In the mean time am looking for the best option to consider using Dr Pulley 14g for the LEA7 to let it rev higher for the slow speed increase below 56mph(90km/h). As i do not know how will the out come of the 14g slider will be on the LEA7, i do not want to have a 14g slider lying around and  for installing it on the LGE5 is way to aggressive like juanpauk discovered.

One thing for sure is the rpm difference between LGE5 and LEA7 is really big around 1000rpm and especially in the lower speed range around 44mph(70km/h). Can't remember the actual figure at lower speed but the at higher speed the difference is only 400 to 500rpm at 100km/h.

Currently at 62mph(100km/h) with LGE5 is 5900rpm
If using with LEA7 @ 62mph(100km/h) is at 5500rpm
Marginal difference at these speed but a big difference at below 60mph and the feeling of power too.
LEA7 give good feeling of power to accelerate from 60mph onwards.

If i can find the additional 5hp back to the first batch of Downtown 300i fixing the LEA7 will be the only option.
Good low speed fuel consumption and good power to overtake at higher speed.

One thing i cannot understand is between the 1 batch of Downtown 32hp and the 3rd batch of Downtown 27hp aren't they using the same engine. Isn't it possible to get the full 32 horses back with a swap a certain parts like ECU,Injector and Catalytic converter Muffler?

Cheers :)
 



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No amount of customization will change the rpm controlled by the ECU. I've manage 8000rpm on a down slope max out at 90mph and that's it and more. I've even swap the original LGE5 with LEA7 variator and the performance are no where near acceptable. From 40km/h the scooter struggle badly to 90km/h. Rpm struggle from 4500rpm and increase slowly to 5500rpm-6000rpm  at around 90km/h if i remember correctly. In other words pre 2012 and 2012 model power and delivery with LEA7 variator are worlds apart in performance.

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Downtown 300 / Re: oil change for new dt 300i
« on: September 25, 2011, 10:43:29 AM »
Thanks TANWare, guess it's the best way by looking at the plug color  :)

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Downtown 300 / Re: Bestem 929 top case on the Downtown 300i
« on: September 25, 2011, 10:24:17 AM »
Ok, here's the web site for all your Downtown accessories  ;D

http://www.kymcorider.com/home/product.asp?cid=5&fid=313

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