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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: July 02, 2012, 03:31:53 PM »
Quote from: axy on July 02, 2012, 02:23:44 PM
Welcome to the wonderful world of torn sliders and slider change every 1500 kms.  ;D

I replaced my factory rollers as they had flat spots and that is what I thought might have been causing the lunging/jumping/lurching from a stop giving it gas. 

The old ones, the rollers were nasty dirty and like I said had flat spots.  Hopefully these DR Pulley sliders last a while...

At least now I can pull the cover and get in there in oh say 30 minutes to change out rollers/sliders! and be back on the road!

I also need to replace that gasket that goes on that cover but I am not going to do so until I know I am done going in there for a while.  IT is now torn in two places but I thought not a big deal as that cvt area is open to air in a couple areas.... so it doesn't need to be sealed like say the motor does.

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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: July 02, 2012, 01:06:44 PM »
New sliders are in!  A Mix of 12 gram and 13 gram Dr Pulley sliders!  Lets say so far hard to tell the difference in the performance. Does feel a bit more responsive and the top end is not such a high rpm any more.  Will be a good test on the way home tonight as I will not be limited by a 49cc riding partner (the wife) we leave at different times.

I can say that the squeal of the belt is gone.  Didn't change it just put the new variator fan on with cleaning as much up as I could.  Went through a good half a can of brake clean and still probably could have used more.

I did not remove the clutch pack and that is probably my down fall.  I am now going to say that the little bit of shudder and lunging/lurching I am feeling now is from the clutch as everything else is pretty much new.  It is definitely not like it was and is more manageable to deal with now.  I guess time to look for clutch pack issues and definitely hesitant to tear into that but I am sure it isn't all that bad is it? 

Also can the clutch pack be an issue for the shuddering and little lunge at take off??

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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: June 28, 2012, 01:04:23 PM »
Quote from: zombie on June 28, 2012, 03:06:21 AM
There is no "backwards". Only Opposite of the direction it came off. If you change the running direction it will re stretch in the new direction 1/2ing the life of the belt. Look at which way it is on the scoot, and replace it the same way. If a particular belt has an arrow... follow that.

So basically then, if I put it on one way do not reverse it when I do the drpulley sliders this weekend?!  Unless of course the belt has an arrow on it.  I wouldn't think one week of riding would be that much of a difference to change it around the other way but then again maybe it would.

I am starting to believe that my flat sided stock rollers may be part of the reason for the belt slippage.  ie not letting the variator work properly to keep the belt tight sort of thing.  Once again I will find out this weekend after the sliders installation!

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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: June 28, 2012, 02:28:06 AM »
Quote from: HueJass on June 27, 2012, 08:53:36 PM
Should be good, the drive face sometimes has a slightly different angle than the variator.  I accidentally put one on backwards and ran 2K miles on it before noticing it.... ooooops.  ;D

so i could have the belt on backwards then??

how does one tell what is the right way to put a belt on? maybe if someone has a photo of the right way might help...

btw the new variator fan arrived and the slides should be here tomorrow!

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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: June 26, 2012, 03:31:06 PM »
Okay so this may be a weird question.  But can the belt be put on backwards?

I am asking as when I first get on the bike and for the first few stop and goes the belt slips.  Slips and makes the noise of a slipping belt like on a car.

Could that also be due to my rollers issue and or the broken fins off of the variator fan?

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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: June 25, 2012, 01:42:43 PM »
I will update once I receive the new variator fan and sliders which by the way I ordered 12 and 13 gram sliders and will alternate installation. 

Rode this morning to work and the new belt definitely is an improvement but the lurching/launching is still there...  so lets hope the work later this weeks helps it out.

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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: June 25, 2012, 02:00:19 AM »
So it is solved then.  I am ordering a set of 12's and a set of 13's and I will mix them.

Question on the mixing, I am going to say it is a 50/50 mix equal parts of each one and alternate them in my placement.  Right or wrong?

Thanks a bunch and a million and a half to all that have helped me out so far.

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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: June 24, 2012, 09:43:59 PM »
I do not want to lose top end if at all possible. i have a stretch where i can open it up and push the max.  but if it is recommended to go with the ones in the link i posted i will do that. now if i can keep from losing mph i am in like flynn!!!

so do i order those Dr pulley slides i linked to? good or bad?

not sure what the 18x14 means though...

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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: June 24, 2012, 06:02:26 PM »
Quote from: Cortez link=topic=6040[url=http://[/url
.msg73722#msg73722 date=1340550901]
Stock weight should be 14gr.
I'd put 13gr Dr Pulley sliders in there.

so would you say go with something like this?

Dr pulley 18x14 13gram].msg73722#msg73722 date=1340550901]
Stock weight should be 14gr.
I'd put 13gr Dr Pulley sliders in there.
[/quote]

so would you say go with something like this?

Dr pulley 18x14 13gram

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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: June 23, 2012, 09:41:01 PM »
Quote from: zombie on June 23, 2012, 09:20:07 PM
The rollers should be round. They will reduce top speed, and give you other strange symptoms... Launching feeling.  Buy a Quality set. Cheap rollers don't last.

what would be a good set? drpulley?

sliders or rollers? what weight? what is the stock weight?

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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: June 23, 2012, 05:26:15 PM »
Okay new belt is on the scooter but it still has what i call the lurch or jump when taking off. so much for the dealership knowing what is wrong...

i did notice when i had it open that the rollers looked like they almost had flat spots. is that normal? or are they bad?

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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: June 23, 2012, 01:54:59 AM »
Quote from: zombie on June 22, 2012, 11:20:49 PM
It would be better than Not breaking it. Stadium Yamaha is a better place to get it anyway. Mention the Forum for 15% off. It's OEM vs copy.

Stadium yamaha wanted with shipping $48.00 for the part and I was able to use the part number I obtained there and searched and found kymcopartsonline.com and I got the same part for only $35.00.  

I did notice that for some parts Stadium Yamaha was cheaper as well as the other way with the kymco parts online website.  I supposedly will also receive the part in 2 to 5 business days...

I will have to put it together and run it for a week with that one piece missing and then try to replace the part next weekend.

If it is any consolation the part I broke was " FACE DRIVE **(0) C.2005.03.25 - 22102-KUDU-220"

Also out of curiosity, how dry or wet should it be inside there?  Mine has like a greasy oily black film...  my hands were black from trying to get the belt off the first few tries before giving up for today.  Can I safely use something like brake klean to clean it out?

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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: June 22, 2012, 11:16:03 PM »
Quote from: zombie on June 22, 2012, 11:12:35 PM
What fan do you have? Aluminum?  http://www.partsforscooters.com/    http://www.stadiumyamaha.com/   If its a plastic one don't worry about it. Break off the other side. The nut is always Super tight the first time because it is really a one time use Cinch nut. Use blue lok tite.

It is the aluminum one... gulp...  so what part number do I search for at those websites?  that first one partsforscooters.com does not show the agility 125...

Since I have the aluminum one, if in theory I break of the one on the other side would that work for a temporary fix?

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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: June 22, 2012, 11:07:37 PM »
I saw that video as well..  Thanks for the link.

I am borrowing an electric impact wrench and will give that a go and see if it loosens the bugger.

Any idea on the broken fin?  Will it cause some imbalance?  If so where can one locate a good replacement one???

I am also looking to make one of those variator holding tools that someone recommended earlier...  I might have to go by the flat stock though...

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Agility 125 / Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« on: June 22, 2012, 10:18:17 PM »
Okay what is the trick?  I have the cover off, the belt took forever to get here, and I broke one of the fins off of the variator ( I believe that is what it is) and with my searching youtube for cvt belt replacement it isn't all it is cracked up to be.  I have tried the one trick where you don't take anything off but the cover and I can't get the old belt off so now I need to either remove the variator or the clutch.

Which and how do I do that???????????????????????????????????????????

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