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Agility 50 / Re: Scoot Update
« on: June 04, 2012, 02:41:25 AM »
Quote from: jezyg on June 02, 2012, 08:01:14 PM
Thanks for the pic maybe I did not cut quite deep enough looking at the pic will have a play tomorrow!!!

If you CDI does not have a purple/violet wire then your CDI is not restricted.

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Agility 50 / Re: 2012 OEM CDI is restricted
« on: May 15, 2012, 04:24:01 PM »
Quote from: streido on May 15, 2012, 04:18:58 PM
What a pain  ??? Makes sense does it really? Im sure the proper tool to open it will be available on ebay etc for a couple of bucks so whats the point of trying to keep you out the carb? If you cant buy the tool then its not servicable, unless your a Kymco dealer, so i would swap it over for a new aftermarket one if it was me as soon as i needed to upjet, clean jets or tune it.

Im all for improving the enviroment and cutting emmissions etc but this seems a complete waste of time in the US. While you ride your little kymco with its sealed carb the guy overtaking you is getting about 15-20mpg in his truck, why not tarvet them instead kf 50cc scooter guys?  :-\

Smaller engines burn fuel and treat it differently than more modern and advance full sized vehicles.  A lawn more currently outputs more harmful gases than an eight cylinder SUV or truck does.  I believe lawn equipment has new regulations which started this year.

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Agility 50 / Re: 2012 OEM CDI is restricted
« on: May 15, 2012, 03:48:03 PM »
Quote from: wordslinger on May 15, 2012, 12:28:17 PM
The boss was already smooth did not need to change it.

..that's what i've been seeing on nearly every new scoot i've looked at....

..bet there's a smaller, or non-adjustable carb on it!!

Smaller not sure, but there are new EPA regulations so you have to have specialized tools to adjust the carburetor.

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Agility 50 / Re: 2012 OEM CDI is restricted
« on: May 15, 2012, 03:03:06 AM »
Quote from: wordslinger on May 15, 2012, 02:42:30 AM
...really get into the end of your cdi, kinda like this...


...don't worry, there is nothing there you can harm....

There is no need to, as my CDI is not restricted. You should read.

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Agility 50 / Re: 2012 OEM CDI is restricted
« on: May 14, 2012, 11:16:16 PM »
I live in the United States and the "all Kymco's are restricted" is absolutely not true.  I own a 2012 Agility Kymco with stock CDI that contains no purple/violet wire, which is filled with a molex plug. In total, I have two unconnected molex plugs.

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Agility 50 / Re: 2012 OEM CDI is restricted
« on: May 14, 2012, 04:12:31 PM »
Quote from: streido on May 14, 2012, 04:05:49 PM
Yup it is def restricted on ALL a50's, Kymco told me when i emailed them to clear up the confusion over newer Agilitys where people where saying they dont restrict newer ones. They do, according to Kymco ALL agilitys leave the factory with restricted cdi's.

You can cut the wire on the end of the old cdi or ive been told its the purple wire on the new ones that needs cut. If you cut the purple and it doesnt work its no big deal to rejoin it, if you didnt want to buy a new race cdi.

Bet it feels much safwr riding now at a safe and sensible speed that can actually keep up with the flow of traffic  :)

My 2012 agility with a smooth boss runs at 41-43 without any modifications to the CDI, although I'll probably try to remove the purple wire to check.

Ok, I just checked my CDI and found that I do not have a purple/violet wire.  This confirms not all 2012 Agility 50's are restricted.

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Agility 50 / Re: Agility City 50 exactly how to deristrict
« on: May 02, 2012, 03:58:17 AM »
Quote from: BigB32 on April 24, 2012, 05:48:13 PM
Hi all sorry for the delay in responding with my findings ,anyway here goes put a 85 main jet in made no difference then went on to  a smooth boss  and looked into the cdi box fix some people state the cdi box is not restricted some say it is and you just need to cut the box , I can tell you now if you have a 2012 model you do NOT need to cut the box in any way you just need to disconnect the violet coloured wire to the box and that is it, so we did that and now what a difference I can now scoot along well over thirty now dont want to push it too hard yet . Apparently the design and layout of 2012 cdi box has been changed hence no need to cut .
Hope this helps I am  well happy  now with what I have got

Cheers for now

BigB32    

Could you specify as to if you tested after you cut the wire after installing the smooth boss to ensure the speed increase wasn't just from the smooth boss?

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Agility 50 / Re: Looking at buying new Kymco Agility 50. De-restriction procedure Confused Help
« on: April 20, 2012, 04:33:07 AM »
My 2012 Agility with just a smooth boss did 43, so I don't believe the CDI is restricted.

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Agility 50 / Re: Agility horrible up hills after derestriction
« on: March 15, 2012, 06:46:40 PM »
I will sell you them for $10.

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Agility 50 / Re: Agility horrible up hills after derestriction
« on: March 10, 2012, 12:34:51 AM »
Also, would sliders work with the stock variator?

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Agility 50 / Re: Agility horrible up hills after derestriction
« on: March 09, 2012, 11:03:54 PM »
Put in the 5.5 g weights and it slows my moped down to 25 with the spring.  Mixing stock and new ones are better, but I guess I need 7.0 g.

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Agility 50 / Re: Black carbon on spark plug - 82 jet installed
« on: March 06, 2012, 09:18:45 PM »
Quote from: kisbee on March 06, 2012, 08:19:24 PM
To my understanding if you are only changeing the smooth boss there was no need to have a larger jet as the smooth boss alone gives you 38mph approx and does not lead to running lean, there seems to be different dealers giving different advice. I know of A few ag50 owners whe have had the smooth boss only replaced and are running fine....

Kymco recommends a 82 jet for derestriction.  Plus, my scooter runs far better with it installed.  Though, I'm going with wordslinger that I overfilled my oil, because I could smell it in the air filter.  I made sure this time that it's not overfilled.

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Agility 50 / Re: Black carbon on spark plug - 82 jet installed
« on: March 06, 2012, 05:59:56 PM »
Quote from: wordslinger on March 06, 2012, 12:37:58 PM
I also can't adjust the carburetor due to the EPA restrictions without the proper tool.


..where are you, and could you post a pic of this carburetor??

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

..i'm very curious, as i've never heard of such a thing...

All new carburetors sold in the U.S. for 50cc or below engines must follow the EPA federal laws that recently took place.  So, any new moped you buy made after the new laws took affect, basically now, will have flat screw heads for the float chamber and a plug over the mixture screw, which may or may not have a phillips screw head.  Another friend of mine bought a moped a bit after mine and his carburetor was completely locked down.  We had to take a power drill to the screws just to put a new jet in.  This is done because they want only the dealers adjusting the carburetor to avoid breaking the EPA federal emission laws.  For the new Kymco's, I believe 2012 and on, you will need a special D-shape screwdriver to adjust the mixture screw, like mine.  It's illegal to sell to the general public, as only dealers should have it, and carries I believe a $36,000 fine for violating the emission laws.  You can sill find them online easily though.

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Agility 50 / Re: Black carbon on spark plug - 82 jet installed
« on: March 06, 2012, 02:19:13 AM »
Quote from: blue on March 06, 2012, 02:06:12 AM
sounds like you are doing good but the valves are. 0.04  not 0.06 adjust the carb and you should be fine.

For the 2012 models, the valves are 0.06 mm ± 0.02 mm.  I also can't adjust the carburetor due to the EPA restrictions without the proper tool.

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Agility 50 / Black carbon on spark plug - 82 jet installed
« on: March 06, 2012, 01:16:23 AM »
Today I cleaned my spark plug, the stock one from the factory, at the 1000 km maintenance period.  The spark plug was black and I've been told that means it's running too rich.  The only modifications I have done to it have been a smooth boss drive and the 82 jet supplied by Kymco, which they recommend for a derestriction.  I attempted to adjust my mixture screw, so I removed the cap due to the new EPA laws (luckily it was installed wrong), but the screw head was gone and replaced with an almost semi-circle one, of which I don't have the tool for.  I find it quite ridiculous I can't adjust my own machines; I feel like a child attempting to bypass a child lock.  I'm not sure what to do next.

I run 93 octane fuel, adjusted my valves to 0.06 mm, changed oil, and clean air filter along with the spark plug today.

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