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For Sale / Downtown300 parts
« on: May 04, 2024, 04:36:14 PM »
Cleaning out the garage this weekend and came across some parts for a 2011 Downtown 300, and ran across these.  All or none.  These are for free for pick up near Boise, ID.   Otherwise, they'll be headed to the curb in a week or so.


These consist of:

New parts:
2x  Voltage Regulator   P/N 31600-KED9-900
1x  OEM Took Set  P/N 89010-KGN7-C00
1x Tail Moulding  P/N 83751-LEA7-E00-NEP
1x Tail Lower Cover (not sure of P/N, but it's the larger plastic piece that includes mounting for the license plate)
1x Top Handlebar Cover (again, not sure of P/N, but it's the large plastic piece that covers the top of the handlebar)
1x Set of floor mats   P/N 64320-LEA7-E00-N1R and 64340-LEA7-E00-N1R
1x Oil Cap Spring   P/N 15423-KKC3-900
1x Exhaust Cover   P/N 18318-LEA7-E00
1x Exhaust Back Cover  P/N 18306-LEA7-E00-YYP

Used/miscellaneous parts:
1x  Front Kymco Badge (covers fairing/windshield bolt).
1x Header Pipe (originally bought used from E-bay to keep as spare)
1x Right hand switch assembly
1x set GY6 springs (for a generic scoot)


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Thanks everyone - the direction given in from Stig's post and Robot's video make more sense considering the engine's rotation.  I even dug up an older service manual for a Kymco Xciting which was consistent with Stig's image, so I think I've got them installed correctly now.

As to root cause for the failed belt, I don't think it was rollers falling out of their track.  Everything seemed to be in place when I removed that assembly.  Well, that is until I popped open the ramp perhaps a bit too abruptly and rollers went everywhere...   Also, the width of the still-intact portions of the belt that remained was only ~21mm, so whatever caused it appears to have happened over time.

Anyway, I did re-check clutch operation today in the garage and on a test ride - it still operates smoothly.   The only other potential issues I could think of are:
1) Belt age.  I still have the original packaging from that belt, and although it was installed on the scooter in 2018, the belt itself was manufacturered in 2013.
2) Riding style.   Most of the miles on this belt were long-distance miles as opposed to just cruising around town or maybe the occasional 20~30 mile trip.   One long trip was around 900+ miles stretched across 3 days.  Another was the around 200+ miles.  Of those 2 long trips, I pretty much cruised at a speed of 70mph or so.

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Hello folks, I just started riding the Downtown again, but the belt broke with less than 2K miles on it.  It was an OEM belt, purchased direct from a Kymco dealer while visiting Taiwan (part # 23100-LEA7-E01, which is the same as listed for the US models) and installed in early 2018.

I've still not been able to identify the root cause for it to fail.  Pulleys all feel smooth, and with a new belt installed, the variator and clutch assembly all appear to work fine again.   But I wasn't 100% sure I got the roller installation correct.  Are they supposed to be installed with the side having more plastic on the side as shown in red?   
The service manual says they are supposed to be installed with the more plastic side toward clockwise, but after thinking how the engine rotates not sure if they meant that is supposed to be "toward clockwise" while disassembled, or when looking at it post-assembly.
 

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Super 8 150 / Re: Thinking about trading-in my Super 8
« on: January 19, 2014, 12:45:56 AM »
If you can wait, HD200's from private sellers come up from time to time.

Depending on what part of FL you're in, you may want to check into this one:  http://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2009-SYM-HD-200-111355065 .   Or at least use that as bargaining power at the dealer you've been talking with.






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Technical | How To / Re: Under Seat Accessory Plug
« on: January 13, 2014, 09:05:27 AM »
I can only answer part of the question - per page 1-20 of the service manual ( http://www.scootermasters.com/manuals/People-250-Full-Manual.pdf ) it runs off the 15A "Fuse B" (shared with turn signals, brake light, horn, etc.).

However, as the circuit includes a charge detection indicator (and presumably other regulator/sense circuitry?), it's hard to say exactly.
If your planning on hooking up something with high current (i.e. heated jacket, if the charging system could even support it?), you may need to re-wire the socket direct to the battery via separate fused wired, and reduce loading elsewhere (i.e. replace bulbs with LEDs).


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Super 8 150 / Re: Vivo needs help...
« on: January 10, 2014, 04:01:08 AM »
The 50cc fuel tank appears to be the same for the 150 (schematic-wise), so you may want to follow the instructions here for troubleshooting (section 17-1):

http://www.49ccscoot.com/manuals/Kymco_Super8_50_Service_Manual.pdf

I'm assuming it sometimes has/will go back?  If so, from the symptoms, sounds like perhaps an intermittent short to ground on Blue/White wire, or an intermittent connection on the Yellow/White wire (or connector to the fuel sender)? 

Amongst more unlikely things, I suppose these could go wrong:
1) sender itself could go bad,
2) float springs a leak (so it just doesn't "float" anymore),
3) instrument gauge itself gone bad/bad connection.

Good luck, and let us know what it turned out to be.

Cheers

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Downtown 300 / Re: NAIL IN TIRE AGAIN
« on: December 21, 2013, 07:01:53 PM »
Yeah, they work. Vivo posted THE BEST graphic description of how they work. I have used them in motorhome tires and the scooters and they work like a charm. The Dyna Bead theory is the dense, little ceramic SPHERES work better than sand since they are smooth they won't abrade the tires. Sand will work but the beads are better in my opinion.

Karl
Feeble - unbelieveable odds at work there!

As Karl said, they do work well. 

However, if the shop you take your bike to for tire changes uses an automatic tire changer, it'd be a good idea to give them a heads-up that you'd put beads inside.  That way, they can try and extract all the beads before the tire pops off the rim (and the beads go flying everywhere, including into their machine.  Although they don't seem to abrade tires, they do wreak havoc/scratch/abrade when they find their way into the mechanical moving/sliding parts of those automatic tire changer machines - and I'm guessing that's probably why shops still use the traditional balancing weights.


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General Discussion / Re: PEOPLE 200 or a SYM HD200?
« on: December 21, 2013, 06:50:47 PM »
What heater outlets?


There's 2 of them - 1 on the left, and one on the right of the front panel - just next to the key (see attached pic below). 


No forced air/fan, and with the lower cc (and therefore heat output) of the engine, it's not as effective as a car's heater, but it does make a difference on cold morning commutes.   For summertime, the vents do have louvres so you can re-direct the air out and away.

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General Discussion / Re: PEOPLE 200 or a SYM HD200?
« on: December 19, 2013, 08:43:23 PM »
If you do find a People 250, another thing to keep in mind is that at least the non-S version has heater outlets - could be useful for all-season riding.


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General Discussion / Re: PEOPLE 200 or a SYM HD200?
« on: December 17, 2013, 12:51:58 PM »
I considered the newer GT versions of the People and I decided in the end to get the Downtown instead.  After owning my (non-GT) People 250, with it's tons of underseat storage + topbox, I just couldn't go for the GT version (which essentially has just a small glovebox under the seat).   

I originally planned on selling the People 250 (as that was the justification for getting the Downtown, but after changing the tires, it addressed my biggest complaint being poor handling (had head-shake and a bit of top-heavy feel to it).  With new City Grips front and back, all of that is gone, and it rides more like a motorcycle.
In terms of other maintainance, in addition to tires and normal oil change/lube/air filter, I changed the belt, brakes, and that's about it.   

I'd think a 250 be perfect for riding 2-up, especially around eastern Ohio backroads.  The HD200, if I'm not mistaken, although from what I hear it's an excellent ride, it won't give you much more power than you already have on the 200i.

For reliability and servicing, from my experience owning both Kymco and SYM while in Taiwan, they are similar.   What steered me towards Kymco when I moved back to the states was dealer network and parts availability.

Hope that helps

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General Discussion / Re: Waiting....
« on: November 19, 2013, 03:04:43 PM »
Saw on one of these yesterday at the Kymco dealer here in Taiwan while stocking up on a few parts/accessories to take back to the states - looks very sharp in person.   Didn't think to ask for a test ride (probably pointless in the congested Taiwan city traffic here), but did sit on it to see how it would fit.   At 5'11", 32-in. inseam, seating seemed to be just about right.


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Technical | How To / Re: Tire pressure valve caps?
« on: November 19, 2013, 02:52:06 PM »
+1 on the questionable quality of these. 

I bought a couple sets of these 3 years back.  Admittedly, they sat in a closet for a couple of years until I got around to putting them on, but when I did open the package, the cap on one of them did partially come off (and so I never ended up putting those on the bike, or anything for that matter).


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Technical | How To / Re: Super 8 150 Carb Adjustment
« on: November 13, 2013, 07:07:33 AM »
It's subtle, but it is actually single-"D" shaped, and takes a bit like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-Replacement-D-Shaped-08-0242/dp/B003CMWC4U


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General Discussion / Re: Bestem lighted top case?
« on: November 10, 2013, 03:27:08 AM »
I've got one mounted on the People, but it only has the smaller brake light towards the top (not the wrap-around LEDs).  The only very minor problem I had was that they shipped it with the mounting hardware loose inside the top box, which in turn broke the wiring clips inside the box.  After a short e-mail to Bestem, they had new clips on their way, so they did follow up well.

I also added couple of rubber small bumpers on the front mounting channel to keep it from rattling, but that's not really necessary.  Other than that the mount, install, and has been stable on the bike.

One thing is that it doesn't look all that weather-proof.  So if you're planning to ride around the Ohio countryside in mid-winter with this, you may need to figure out a way to add weather strip or pack the things inside within a plastic bag to keep it dry.


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General Discussion / Re: Earthquake!
« on: October 16, 2013, 04:50:11 AM »
Tragic news for those directly affected, but good to hear you made it through yet another natural distaster, Vivo. 

CNN was reporting (http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/14/world/asia/philippines-earthquake/index.html) that 2.9 million people were affected in some way :o  (and incidently also showed someone cruising through on a scoot).




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