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General Discussion / Re: Super 8 150 vs. Movie 150 "Prices"
« on: July 27, 2014, 05:59:52 PM »
Size of a scooter is very subjective. I'm 5'10 205lbs and have no issues with it being too small. Personally, I prefer the scale of small/medium sized scooters which is why I was choosing between the super 8, agility 125, vespa 150 and the movie. As soon as you start looking at anything beyond 150, the size of the frame for scooters, in our market, gets significantly larger. At that point, the size would maybe offset any hp gains other scoots may have and I would have considered a "cafe" style motorcycle at that point. Again for me, its all about the scale which is what intrgued me to a scooter vs bike to begin with. The movie had all the specs of a premium scooter ie. Dual rear shocks, frt and rear disc brakes, updated engine from super 8 and more cargo space even compared to some 400-650cc scooters.
As for the carbs, it seems that Kymco could not put the FI in the N. American market mainly to reduce the cost of the scooter as there are shipping/duty's that they have to consider which will be reflected in the MSRP. The manager at our dealership also mentioned that most scooter and even motorcylce technicians in North America are not as intuitive to work on FI vs the traditional carb set up. Furthermore, carbs are very very easy to maintain to begin with and most issues are resolved by their owners if there is a bit of neglect. Yes, FI would have been a nice addition for engine efficiency and possibly a bit more top end but, of all the things to be compromised to keep the scale of the scooter and the price point where it is, FI would be on the top of my list. I'd rather have a scooter with a proven carb setup thats made in Taiwan and with Kymco's QC than one thats built in other countries to save on production costs.
Real world usage is the key when considering this scooter. At least for me it was but thats why manufacturers have different models because not everyone sees things the same way.
As for the carbs, it seems that Kymco could not put the FI in the N. American market mainly to reduce the cost of the scooter as there are shipping/duty's that they have to consider which will be reflected in the MSRP. The manager at our dealership also mentioned that most scooter and even motorcylce technicians in North America are not as intuitive to work on FI vs the traditional carb set up. Furthermore, carbs are very very easy to maintain to begin with and most issues are resolved by their owners if there is a bit of neglect. Yes, FI would have been a nice addition for engine efficiency and possibly a bit more top end but, of all the things to be compromised to keep the scale of the scooter and the price point where it is, FI would be on the top of my list. I'd rather have a scooter with a proven carb setup thats made in Taiwan and with Kymco's QC than one thats built in other countries to save on production costs.
Real world usage is the key when considering this scooter. At least for me it was but thats why manufacturers have different models because not everyone sees things the same way.