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Roadcraft / Re: Plowing...
« on: February 06, 2015, 07:06:19 AM »
This is sort of what I'm talking about, although mine is slightly different.

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Roadcraft / Re: Plowing...
« on: February 06, 2015, 06:58:15 AM »
The Fairlead?

No, it's not part of the winch it's part of the plow setup.

The winch cable connects/loops (or goes through/under) to the plow via a small wheel device.  That small wheel can be removed and attached to the plow mount via a pin.

The wheel rotates as the cable is let in/out to control the height of the plow blade.   It works as a pulley system basically.  I'll get a picture of it.

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Roadcraft / Re: Plowing...
« on: February 06, 2015, 03:18:24 AM »
LOL @Zombie

So I survived Snowmageddon.  2 feet of snow in about 30 hours over the weekend.  Crazy stuff.  Had another 3 inches yesterday and at the end of my run the night before my winch cable broke!

Apparently winch cables breaking are a common thing when plowing?

After some consulting, I'm ordering 50' of amsteel blue rope cable and a hawse to replace the roller fairlead. 

I ran out yesterday and bought some cable clamps and bolt cutters and fixed the cable and plowed out the 3" of fresh snowfall.  So far my repair is holding.

In addition to the broke cable, the pin that holds the wheel for the cable is really bent.  Barely comes in and out, I need to replace it.  Anyone know what that's called?  It's for a warn provantage setup.


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Just an update, the info on their website that says it includes all that stuff is "not current".  Interesting stuff, I don't think Kymco knows what the heck is going on down there.  The person I spoke to also swore the LE model doesn't come with a roof or windshield either... so I can't really believe anything from Corporate.

The proper windshield and roof mounting hardware isn't in yet, or if it is I haven't been contacted yet.

Otherwise it seems to be plowing just fine.

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Roadcraft / Re: Plowing...
« on: January 07, 2015, 12:20:15 AM »
Good for you! Some of those red reflectors on aluminium poles might help ID the outline, I know about hitting things at three am!
I went on ebay a couple of weeks ago and picked up 50 of the 4' driveway marker poles.  No way I could do it without them.  Guy before left about 20 of them and I have no idea how he did it with 20. 

I put out about 15 of the old ones (5 were so messed up and old they were junk) and then 44 of the new ones.

Shot of the driveway on my drive out today.  Need to get a shot of the Kymco in it.  I'll do that tomorrow.

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Roadcraft / Re: Plowing...
« on: January 06, 2015, 11:38:07 PM »
"Ok so no go on the pads.  Even on the concrete?  The blade seems to like to hit the cracks. 

It's a steel blade, pretty heavy and sturdy."

I assumed you had the plastic blade/wear bar. They are thicker, and will hop over most stress relievers in concrete. That would be my first modification. It's better for your machine as well. It insulates shock, and reduces vibration.

I would also try to mound everything on the windward side. It will keep most of the snow  (in a squall) from even hitting your drive.
Lining both sides creates a trap, and it will hold what would have otherwise blown right over.

Try to cut your angles so the blade cant catch the cracks. Every snap of those springs is a sledge hammer to the machine.

Hey B&L... You have to be versatile brother. You never know when our beloved leaders will ban scooter sales in the US!

Yep it has the wear bar on it.

Reading online it seems like most want it on the leeward side, not the windward.  I can only assume it's because of the reason why snow accumulates on the leeward side of snow fence.  Air flow changes.

I plowed everything to the leeward side late last night and again this AM and I don't seem to have the drifting issues I had yesterday afternoon.  Same temps / wind direction and speed and type of snow. 

I think I'm getting this thing down.

I have the sliders on still but they are set at the same level as the blade, this seems to keep the blade from digging into the expansion cracks on my driveway.

Also helps when I'm a second to two late on getting the blade up as hit the grass.  Not so much any more but at 3am with numb fingers and a foggy head and black in the cab, it happens from time to time, lol.

For the most part I have a pretty good pattern figured out now.

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Roadcraft / Re: Plowing...
« on: January 06, 2015, 11:32:32 PM »
I just had to......


Lol I was singing that song at 3am this morning.  "Mr Plow, that's my name, that again is MR PLOW!"

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Roadcraft / Re: Plowing...
« on: January 05, 2015, 11:56:07 PM »
Ok so no go on the pads.  Even on the concrete?  The blade seems to like to hit the cracks. 

It's a steel blade, pretty heavy and sturdy.

I did set the blade at an angle yesterday for most of the plowing.  Circular drive and then the 400' run (with a couple of curves) out to the street.  The 400' run to the street is asphalt whereas the circular drive and pad between the house and barn is concrete.

Good call on waxing the blade, I had to knock some snow off yesterday before parking it in the barn.

Calling for upwards of 4" tonight, possibly more with lake effect and then tomorrow afternoon / night as much as 8, again depending on lake effect, so I'll be at it quite a bit.

Thank you for the tips, I appreciate it.

I have another question, my 400' asphalt run has a corn field on the windward side of it.  Drifting can be insane I'm thinking.  I Plowed half the snow to one side going out (angled) and half to the other when I came back.

Is it feasible to plow angled to the leeward side going out and then come back plowing to that same side to get it off the road ?  I'm thinking I'll try it out tonight when I've got 1.5" on the ground and see how it goes.

I got some drifting today while I was at work from the mounds on the windward side of the drive, I'd like to eliminate that and with 5 degree temps for the next 2-3 days, the snow will be drifting quite a bit.

Tks again.

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Roadcraft / Plowing...
« on: January 05, 2015, 04:17:56 AM »
Did my first plow today with my UXV700i and Warn plowvantage.  Went pretty well I think.  I've never plowed before so I can't compare it to past experiences, lol.

My question:

On concrete / asphalt do you use the "floaters"? 

I wasn't sure so I had them set so the wear bar is just touching the ground.  Seemed to work fine, but Like I said, I've never done this before and my dealer gave me no manuals or anything with the new machine or plow or winch.

Anyone have any tips they have found or anything?  Being new, I really have no idea what I'm doing beyond "just doing it".

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Thanks guys.

Got our first 4" or so of snow here today and being 3 in the afternoon I was excited to get going and glad my first time out was going to be in the day light.

Or so I thought.

When I first got the UXV  I drove it around my driveway (circular in front of house and then 400~ feet to the road) and got the mail and parked it.  The snow for Christmas didn't materialize so I wanted to drive around the property and took off the plow using quick disconnect.

Before I took it off I did a general up down on the plow and at quick glance everything seemed fine.  Disconnected it and left it off till today.

With about 1.5" of snow on the ground I go out to the barn, hook it up, took all of 3 minutes and lowered the blade for the first plow... no go.  When they installed the plow they used the holes to set the blade in the upmost position.  To get the blade to touch the ground (barely) you had to bottom out the entire assembly leaving the mount dragging the ground.

A quick look and the problem was evident.

It wasn't a quick fix as the Warn Plowvantage has those heavy springs on it and they put a significant amount of tension on the setup.  Flash forward to 2 hours later and I disconnect everything, unbolt a bunch of stuff and the two springs put it back together properly for my UXV and struggle like hell getting the springs back on and in place.  Would have been nice to have all the resources of a shop and a another guy to muscle the things on.

So much for paying them to install the plow.... had I done it myself, it would have taken the same amount of time for the whole thing since I had to undo it and redo it.

Again, all of it without any manuals.  I can't believe warn would sell a plow setup without a manual.

Anyway, the plowing went fine and I would have been a lot happier if it wasn't dark by the time I actually got plowing.  At that point the snow was almost over and the winds were picking up.  Pushing 3-4" of medium density snow seems to be a bit of work for the machine.  I'd hate to wake up and have 6"+ on the ground.... that's another topic though.

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UPDATE:

Dealer called back, they confirmed Kymco sent the wrong windshield, it will be about a week to get the new one.  They are also sending new hardware for the roof.

Glad to hear they are working quickly on this.

I didn't mention the side doors and back and a possible double charge yet.  I don't want to accuse them of something if I'm mistaken or the Kymco website is outdated or something.

Anyway, feeling a little better now.

Hopefully I'll be posting some fun pictures of putting this thing to work plowing soon.... not that I want snow but I am anxious for my first plow, lol.

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First off, Welcome to the forum.

I used to work for a fella that sold Polaris atv's, and anything like a plow kit/winch bumpers/winches/light bars, ect are all aftermarket accessories. None of these are made by or sold by Kymco. So the missing bits/manuals for those are solely on the dealers shoulders.

Items like the soft sides, and doors are also aftermarket parts (in most cases). I have not researched this for kymco so more info on who supplies/manufactures these parts is needed.

The hard top, and windshield however ARE kymco parts so they will NOT come with assembly instructions. They rely on dealer knowledge for the proper installation. All of the mounting hardware should have been included either with the machine when it came in or in the cases with the parts.
My gut feeling is that hardware was with the machine, and was put into stock after it was assembled (dealer prep).

Hi Zombie, thank you for the welcome.  The sides and back windshield may be third party but they do have Kymco ripper pulls and what not plastered all over them. 

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At this point a polite but firm phone call to the dealer is definitely in order. The fact of the matter is THEY should have assembled all of this. Warranty is the main issue here. If you do anything wrong, this could leave you holding the ball. Lets say the frame cracks while plowing, or the stater burns up using the winch... Who installed it? Who's gonna pay to fix it?   Guess again... YOU.

For the trim/weather strip... It's 5 bucks at Ace Hardware for 25 feet of it. I have never seen it on any split windshield for an atv.

I'm not attempting to take Kymco's side here. In fact I think your dealer needs a lesson in Dealer responsibility. It appears he was either lazy, or perhaps over booked. Maybe he had good intentions in letting you take the parts for install but mark my words... It will bite one of you in the ass.

I'd suggest bringing everything back to your dealer, and pay them a proper wage to install everything correctly. If something goes awry, you have a warranty, and a cause for action.
If that won't work out because of the dealer then Kymco USA has proven to be very supportive of their customers. Keep in mind, it'e the squeeky wheel that gets greased.

I hope some of this is helpful, and as a parting gift... Happy New Year!

The only thing I have put on is the windshield and roof (roof using zip ties and zinc washers since I have no hardware yet).  Everything else was put on by the dealer, including the winch and plow mount.

"Pay a fair wage".  I already did, installation was paid for when I bought the machine and wrapped into the financing. 

The windshield is a full screen, not split.  It comes with bottom trim for sure, I can see it in all the pictures.  The top has a spot to slide in trim, I would assume, since they have bottom trim and the sides come with special attachments to try keep out as much wind/rain/ mud as possible the top should have something there as well.  Especially since it's made to accept something.

I just got off the phone with the dealer (they just opened) and I was told "Kymco sends out roofs without hardware all the time, sorry".

That really bugs me because as I was looking into my box of parts at the dealer last night (with same guy) I asked "Is this everything? There's not much in here."  He said, "yep that's everything".

Pretty frustrating I already mailed in my first payment and still don't have a complete machine.  Hell it'd still be sitting in their shop if I hadn't told them to deliver it without the roof the windshield.

If it's a genuine screw up from Kymco on parts delivery, it is what it is but it's the rest of the experience that has me very frustrated.

Kymco is closed today so I'm up in the air till Monday on if it's the right windshield.  No way it is IMO, all pictures of the 2015 700i LE on the website show a form fitting front, not the older 2009-2013 style on it with the cut outs for the old hood.

I went with Kymco partly because of price and partly because getting a bigger polaris ranger the first week of December of was impossible, Kymco dealer said "They have it instock at the factory in NC and it'll be here in 7-10 days".  The couple of polaris places all said it'd be after first of the year before they could get anything, everything was back ordered / presold.

As it turns out, I could have waited... who would have known we'd have had .02" of snow from Dec 1 to today....  >:(

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I should say hello as this is my first post here so : 

Hello everyone!

I bought a 2015 UXV 700i LE back on Dec 12th.  I ordered a plow kit for it and being told it didn't include doors or the back, I ordered those as well as part of the deal and worked out a deal including installation of everything.

It took forever to get the accessories in and I finally had them deliver it Dec 23rd without the roof and windshield (as those hadn't come in it).  We were looking at snow over the Christmas holiday and weekend and I needed something to plow with.   They forgot the manuals unfortunately but google turned one up quickly enough.

 Alas the snow stayed rain and temps were 33 degrees during the precip.

Today my windshield and roof finally came in so I drove over to go pick them up.  I was given the roof, windshield and a box with some stuff in it.  I asked if that was it and was told it was.  I asked about my manuals and they came back with a manual for just the UXV.  I would have thought the plow and kit would have come with something... perhaps a book for the winch as well?  Nope... ok.  I would

So I get home tonight and happily get to work installing the roof and windshield myself... first thing, there is nothing to tell me how to install any of it. 

It's fairly straight forward but I would assume it should have came with something... in any case, they didn't give me the hardware for the roof.  Just the roof and a cross bar.  Nothing to secure it with.

Windshield.... Is there a new windshield for the 2015 UXV 700i?  The bottom cut outs don't match the new hood design.  I think they may have given me the wrong one.  Also, there is a aluminum bar I got which seems to accept some weather striping for the top portion, I assume to close off the opening between the shield and the roof.  Does it come with that stripping normally?

My biggest question is, was I double charged?

Looking for the windshield, to try and see if there were any difference between model years (all I can find is mine looks just like the 2009-2013 model year one listed) I came across this:
http://www.kymcousa.com/showroom/utvs/uxv700ile_nc/index.html

It says:
"Full Windshield, Hard Top & Soft Enclosure"

It also mentions a DVD which I didn't get either.

Personally I'm livid right now.  I'd like to call Kymco first thing in the AM but I'm pretty sure they are only open on weekdays.  I'm calling the dealer first thing in the AM but I'd like to know what the score is before I go too deep with them.

Thank you for your help.

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