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Call me crazy?
« on: September 22, 2013, 02:55:47 AM »
Thought it was time to sell my V-Strom and find something else that was good for both the highway and around town, I'm tired of doing gravel roads so the V-Strom is over kill. I also am tired of paying so much for insurance so started looking for a 25 yr or older bike so that I could get extremely cheap insurance but still have something fun to ride. Well I had no luck looking all summer and then someone asked me why I didn't buy a 400cc or smaller bike that would cut my insurance costs in half even if it was a brand new bike. That narrowed down the search considerably, 250 series bikes were out of the question except for the relatively powerful Hyosung/Venox pair but I had already put 17,000 kms on a Hyosung and I hate the cruiser style of bike and refuse to dress up like a cheap extra in a pirate movie. Sport type bikes like the Ninja/CBR were out of the question for a fat old man like me so that left small maxi-scooters.  I finally found a Yamaha Majesty but 3 days after buying it a drivers training car came out of a side street and totaled it off! The good news is the insurance company paid me 2x what I paid for the bike, my mortgage will be paid off with the injury claim and none of my injuries will take too long to heal except for bursitis/arthritis scares. So now onto the crazy part...I am looking for another scooter and it has come down to a two horse race, the Burgman 400 and the Downtown 300i. I love the styling, size, color (bronze) of the Downtown and part of me likes it because it is not a common bike but it comes from a well proven company. I also like that the maintenance seems pretty simple and most parts are cheap except for the belt. What I don't like is the leg room and the seat but to be honest I have only sat on it in the dealer since I'm not healthy enough to ride yet. (I am 5'6" so after reading the Kymco forums maybe the bike is made for my size...) On the Burgman side it is a well proven bike with an unbelievable internet knowledge and aftermarket parts base but it also is a bike that you see on every streetcorner and the only one I can find is a boring (to me) dark "thunder grey". The Burgman does have a lot more leg room, seems to have a better seat, more storage under the seat and in the dash and the model I am looking at also includes factory heated grips and hand protectors. I know about the weight difference and I know two guys who ride together and they say the performance is the same but the Burgman has to gas up long before the Kymco. The Burgman is a 2012, 4500kms, 8 month warranty, heated grips, handguards, abs, one owner and I can get it for $5500+taxes. The Downtown is new with a 2 yr warranty and the price is $5995+taxes. So am I crazy to want a Kymco for styling, rareness and colour or should I go for abs, heated grips, guaranteed legroom and time tested design? They say cars move the body but motorcycles move the soul and I'm a sucker for bright shiny objects that look good. Sell me on the Downtown, why did you buy yours? (p.s. I am only looking for suggestions, I have to make the decision myself but since others have made this decision before I would like to know the how and why)
'06 Suzuki V-Strom 650, "Time machine"
'10 Saga 150, "Lupita or pita (pain in the xxx)
'05 Yamaha Majesty "Thumper" r.i.p.

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Re: Call me crazy?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2013, 07:59:29 AM »
  glad you were not hurt to bad , I really like my downtown, got 39,500 km on it so far,  the best thing I did was mod. the seat for my long legs, moved the seat back stop back about 5 inches,.  and raised it 4 inches,. and got rid of the forward slope , the only other scooter I would like is the GT 300i,. but it is only sold in the USA.  we have the 200i in Canada, the other scoot that I like the looks of is Piaggio,s  BV 350 and the seat feels more comfy, but that is siting on it in the show room, and it has the same running spec,s as the downtown,.   well enjoy your shopping ,. don in ottawa ont.

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Re: Call me crazy?
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2013, 04:27:55 PM »
The Downtown is a great bike, but definitely heal up and take a test ride. I got used to putting my feet up on the leg shield, but my inseam is about 28". Heated grips weren't too hard to wire up.
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Re: Call me crazy?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2013, 02:14:09 AM »
well  i like my DT 300 leg room is being dealt with custom seat being made  got a good price .club discount 185.00 out the door no more hump top deal with .brand new seat maybe they will sell it to kymco pics to come after about 4 weeks of recovery see ya soon....my kymco keeps up with any burgman 400 i had a burgy 400 for 7 yrs i like the kymco better :)

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Re: Call me crazy?
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2013, 02:49:51 PM »
After reading many good reviews about the DT 300i ABS I found a 2010 one with oxford heated grips, Givi windscreen & top case for $3999 drive away. It's a fun bike to ride, I am 191cm tall and have plenty of leg room. It doesn't have amazing acceleration but its acceptable, it's cheap to run, I highly recommend it!
The Kymco DT 300i ABS is the best scooter you can get. I love it's carefree automatic ride. I would like to see kymco make a 600cc version but no heavier then the 300. I would buy it for sure

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Re: Call me crazy?
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2013, 04:59:13 PM »
Had Kymcos before: Agility 50, Yager 200i (173 cc) and now the DT 300i (298 cc). you see the progression. I like Kymco for several reasons even considering all their "warts": well made with good guarantee. Any machine that got its start making stuff for Honda has to be right since my first motorcycle was a Honda. Guarantee kind of hollow since most dealers have no usable spares and have no techs to speak of. They CAN on occasion get parts. The DT 300i has great power and is smooth and quiet. It sits me more comfortably than the Yager ever did with no tailbone ache.

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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2013, 06:42:34 PM »
... Guarantee kind of hollow since most dealers have no usable spares and have no techs to speak of. They CAN on occasion get parts...

Man, I'm lucky to be living a 20 minute ride from Scooterville :) Parts, they can get. What's more they work on so many different brands and on so many of them that their shop does excellent work.

If you want farkles, they can get the bits for that too, although online is often cheaper.

Between Scooterville and Bob's Cycle Supply, both within easy radius of home, I'm pretty much set :D

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Re: Call me crazy?
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2013, 05:22:19 PM »
I had a Burg 400 and a 650.  I am your size, the Burg 400 ergonomics were perfect for me
and I later heard the Givi screen is better than the Clearview (which I did not like). 
Its a tough choice, I say ride them both and see what you like better. 
The Kymco seat/floorboard is not good, I cut off the butt rest.  Only issue now is
I keep sliding forward, the new cover is too slick, I will 'rough' it up in some way.
2012  DT 300i  26K miles,  Bestem 929, Biondi w/s, LED brake/tail,turn, OEM mirrors fairing mount, removed buttstop
2015  GTi300  7K miles, Bestem 929 case, PUIG TS w/s, mirrors mounted to w/s, led DRLs in windguards
2014  Honda CTX700,  35Kmiles, many mods

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