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Vivo

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Brake or Swerve
« on: October 18, 2013, 03:31:13 AM »
When motorcyclists talk about safety and how to stay alive on the road, it's usually some variation on how to brake or—even worse—how to lay 'er down. The problem is that relying on emergency braking to get you out of trouble on your motorcycle is usually a really lousy strategy. Don't get me wrong—learning how to use your front and rear brakes effectively is a critical skill every rider should develop and practice. And when all else fails, there's no substitute for having a good DOT-qualified helmet on your head.

But relying on emergency braking or swerving to save your bacon is, I think, a dumb way to stay out of a crash. If a rider allows a situation to deteriorate to the point that he has to take emergency evasive action, he's probably toast.

Here's why: After detailed investigations of 900 motorcycle accidents in Los Angeles, the Hurt study (formally titled "Motorcycle Accident Cause Factors and Identification of Countermeasures") reported that the average time from the event that starts the collision sequence (such as a car beginning a turn across a motorcycle's path) to the actual impact was 1.9 seconds. A nearly identical research project just finished in Thailand reported the time at 2.0 seconds. In both studies, three-fourths of riders had less than 3.0 seconds between the start of the accident sequence and the crash. And keep in mind that riders don't always detect a problem the instant it begins. It may take anywhere from a quarter-second to a couple of seconds before something attracts the rider's attention.

Once the rider's attention is caught, reaction time begins. Most human-factors experts put average reaction time to traffic hazards at about 1.0 to 2.0 seconds, averaging around 1.5 seconds. If you swerve, add another half-second for the time delay due to countersteering and developing the correct lean angle before your motorcycle begins to head in the desired direction. Those delays leave little or no time for evasive action to succeed. About 30 percent of riders in the Hurt study took no evasive action at all, often because there was too little time. Even highly skilled braking usually won't do that much to delay your arrival at the crunch point.

Here's an example: Let's say you're going down the boulevard at the 35-mph speed limit when Joe Numbnuts turns left across your path. With reaction time and all, you've got one second left, so you do a highly skilled stoppie, bringing your speed down to 15 mph in that second. Your average speed during that one second was 25 mph, and you braked for 37 feet. If you hadn't braked at all, you would have covered that 37 feet in 0.72 seconds. So your highly skilled stoppie and nerves of steel delayed your arrival at the crunch point by about a quarter of a second compared to doing nothing at all. Is that enough time for Joe to clear his big SUV out of your way? Usually not. And few riders have as much as 37 feet in which to brake. Even worse, when faced with death or a world of pain seconds away, most riders do a miserable job of braking and swerving.

The Hurt Report found that riders with formal training (mostly California Highway Patrol and LAPD motorcycle officers, who had very demanding training and tons of time in the saddle) were no more likely to use the front brake than Melvin who learned to ride from his Uncle Clem. Or taught himself. Nor were trained riders less likely to slide out or highside when trying to avoid a crash. The point: No matter how good you think you are, don't count on overcoming the Pucker Factor when you're caught by surprise and think you're about to meet your Maker.


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Re: Brake or Swerve
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2013, 07:18:46 AM »
Yep, swerving is usually only optimal for high speed avoidance. I.e. if you cruise along the highway with 200kph and a truck shortly in front of you pulls into your lane (overtaking another truck).
Braking distance increases quadratic with the speed, swerving linear - but has about 0.5-1s offset to initiate the evasion curve.

These are tests everyone has to master in German motorcycle driving school. Look at video #4. (#3 is easier, only avoidance without initial braking.)
http://www.bikers-school.de/nuetzliche-infos/grundfahraufgaben.html
Initial speed 50kph, full braking to 30kph, evasion (don't forget to relase the brake!), re-aligning, braking to stop.
50kph is too slow for a realistic evasion test, you could easily brake to full stop from the remaining 30kph.
But if you start the test with 130kph and the evasion with 100kph, a fail of the rider might be quite harmful (remember: the rider is still a learner in driving school).

I don't know if a US Highway Patrol really has good training. ;)
Perhaps the video cops patrolling the country mountain passes like in Schwarzwald or Eifel have more skills.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2013, 07:23:21 AM by ts1 »

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Re: Brake or Swerve
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2013, 04:09:07 PM »
Huh, imagine that, perhaps the most important safety tool is between our ears. 
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Re: Brake or Swerve
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2013, 04:26:18 PM »
You mean the equilibium sense!? ;)

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Re: Brake or Swerve
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2013, 04:29:22 PM »
My two cents,  A good rule of thumb while driving any vehicle regardless the number of wheels is that when things look like they could became sketchy is to rub off speed.  Going slower will give you more space to observe the unfolding scenaro, more time to chose what to do, and generally speaking a less severe impact in the event of a crash.
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Re: Brake or Swerve
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2013, 04:48:39 PM »
Vivo, wasn't the Hurt Report done in 1981 based on studies done in 1978?  And weren't motorcycles still using stone wheels back then?
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Re: Brake or Swerve
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2013, 07:55:53 PM »
Part of my MSF course study/practice and also on the final riding test was the swerve and brake hard skill.
Instructors emphasized that heavy braking should not be performed while turning....and we practiced swerving then braking to avoid hitting things.

I understood their reasoning - and also understood that faced with an unexpected obstacle my tendency would be to do both at the same time. Swerve and hit the brakes all at once. (perhaps my resultant head first dive over the top would clear the hood of his car !?)

In traffic I constantly decrease my speed a touch and cover the brakes for any car seen at a side street, which is moving to a stop or waiting for me to pass. I also move me head in their direction ("making eye-contact" if the road is clear in front of me; or faking eye-contact with a head turn if in traffic)
If their wheels move I'm ready to brake!

Cars coming at me all receive the same attention and brake covering.

One other thing I try to do is stay close, but not too close, to cars in front of me while moving ---- to ride in their wake so-to-speak - protected from side traffic.

What do I still struggle with ? : Staying out of people's blind spots on multi-lane streets. If you drop back you're threatened by tail-gaters in your lane.....if I speed up I'm temporarily exceeding my comfort speed (&/or the posted speed)

I am still bewildered by 2 wheel riders whom I see riding with absolutely no Hi-Viz anything on their bikes or persons. Black Harley, black jacket & boots, black mini-helmet (if at all) Some big bikes are cruising down the roads with tiny tail lights. (the BIG tail light on my LIKE was something I commented on the first time I saw one at my dealer's)

I am a big guy - and the pads in my armored jacket make me even bigger. I present a large, Hi-Viz International Yellow torso and headlight coming down the street. I am absolutely certain that I am noticing drivers spotting me in this colroful get-up. (next I will continue the search for a Hi-Viz Yellow helmet which matches the size, XXXXL, and weird shape of my head (long oval toilet seat). Finding a helmet which properly fit my giant noodle is a 10 page story)

OK, what was the question again?
« Last Edit: October 28, 2013, 08:42:29 PM by Stig »
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Re: Brake or Swerve
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2013, 09:51:00 PM »
My two cents,  A good rule of thumb while driving any vehicle regardless the number of wheels is that when things look like they could became sketchy is to rub off speed.  Going slower will give you more space to observe the unfolding scenaro, more time to chose what to do, and generally speaking a less severe impact in the event of a crash.

+1

Reducing your speed in my opinion is critical. One disadvantage of most scooters is the lack of reserve power which is also a safety option in avoiding a collision.

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Re: Brake or Swerve
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2013, 01:39:16 AM »
Moderate speed, good helmet and riding gear, brains.... done... If these won't work, it's meant to be...

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Re: Brake or Swerve
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2013, 01:53:59 PM »
You need to make the right choice for the situation. Little smart car turns in front of you, you can probably swerve behind it without exiting your lane or otherwise exposing yourself to additional danger. Big SUV or minivan does the same, then in spite of your best efforts you're probably going to clip the rear fender and eat some tarmac, you're probably better off with maximum braking to reduce the impact as much as possible, and you have a better chance of coming to a stop in time if you're doing it in a straight line and not using any of your available traction to change direction.

An expert rider, on a bike without ABS, can brake in a straight line at about 1G. That's roughly the limit of the tires traction on a dry road. A good ABS system can get real close to the same rate even if a less-than-expert rider is really honking on the brakes. That means in an emergency situation you can scrub off 22mph of speed every second. That's enough to make even an unavoidable impact much more survivable. And don't even THINK about the old "laying it down" lie. Bike and rider sliding down the road decelerate slower than a bike under control in maximum braking. You'll only hit the same object harder than if you'd stayed in control of your bike.

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