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Like 200i LX Not starting after sitting all winter
« on: May 17, 2015, 01:55:00 PM »
So I put my scooter up for the winter. Been in the garage, dry and safe. Before the winter, I disconnected the battery, and drained the fuel. Figured I'd be good. Prior to putting it up it hadn't been ridden consistently for a year and a half, so the battery wasn't holding a charge. It was stored in a garage in vermont before getting shipped to me in IL. So I bought a battery tender plus, hooked her up and waited a few hours. Nothing but a click.
Now after about 16 hours, I'm getting a sound like half of a turnover, but not a full turnover. My guess is that the battery is toast or I need a new spark plug. Anyone with any insight? This is a 2013 Like 200i LX with just over 2k miles on it. Been garaged its entire life. Thanks everyone!

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Re: Like 200i LX Not starting after sitting all winter
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2015, 02:16:42 PM »
Battery.
I know squatt about this - but, I'd go with a new battery.
Could be bad grounds, crud in the injector or fuel line, too many Republicans in the area, etc., etc.
But - this electronic fuel injected scoot should fire even as your finger approaches the start button - and if you have the Kill Switch in the Go position - and she only clicks or grunts....I'd say it is the battery because this is a fool-proof dead reliable scooter!!~
Or, maybe it is 12 other things - remember my "squatt" comment - but I'm going with the battery.
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Re: Like 200i LX Not starting after sitting all winter
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2015, 02:19:31 PM »
Battery first. Charge the new one with a real battery charger on 2 amps max for 4 to 8 hours or what ever the battery instructions say before you put it in the bike.

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Re: Like 200i LX Not starting after sitting all winter
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2015, 02:21:54 PM »
Plus, you froze that battery all winter in Vermont.....hardly ran it for 18 months before that.....then you ship it half way around the world to "IL" ?.......where they hardly speak English and you think it is going to start.
You're darn lucky the thing didn't blow sky high!
My kid thinks it's your battery.
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Re: Like 200i LX Not starting after sitting all winter
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2015, 04:19:26 PM »
Thanks guys! I would agree the battery is pretty much toast. Is there a better replacement alternative than the OEM/stock battery? If I replace it, I want it to last a while.

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Re: Like 200i LX Not starting after sitting all winter
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2015, 06:00:42 PM »
OH YEA....BATTERY=( m1m2/m1+m2) (u1 - u2)^2
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Re: Like 200i LX Not starting after sitting all winter
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2015, 06:53:42 PM »
I ride 365 in some pretty crazy temps - all winter - wanted a bigger battery to insure I always get home and don't die in the wilderness. So I researched batteries and came up with this more powerful YUASA to replace my OEM YUASA.
I had to trim 5mm off of the little posts on the bottom of the hold down lid....then it slid right in with no issues. Has been working great for me for some time now. Was only a bit more $ than the stock one - amazon.com.
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Re: Like 200i LX Not starting after sitting all winter
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2015, 09:01:05 PM »
So today it took a jump from a jumper box and started right up. I rode it for a while and thought, well the battery has enough charge now. 20 min later and NOPE. Would not turn over. Probably going to end up getting the new battery when I get the oil changed next week. In the meantime, I will either be scooterless or have to use the jump start method and making sure I am within walking distance of a service station. Thanks again everyone. I missed being on here. I am back though!

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Re: Like 200i LX Not starting after sitting all winter
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2015, 06:02:17 AM »
I bought my baby a SHIDO Battery LiFePO4 (Lithium Iron Phosphate).
Comes with a 3 Years Warranty. Works perfectly. No complaints.

What are the advantages of SHIDO LION batteries
over normal Lead-Acid batteries?

    Superb Cranking Capacity: up to 50% more than Lead-Acid batteries
    Weight: between 1/3 and 1/5th of Lead-Acid batteries
    No Sulfating: longer service life
    Lower Self Discharge: longer shelf life in the warehouse before use
    Excellent Cycle Life: more than 2.000 cycles (Lead - Acid batteries: +/- 300)
    Drop-in replacement: 1 to 1 replacement dimensions for OEM battery
    Less Fuel Consumption: thanks to higher OCV the engine works more efficient
    Super-fast Recharge: very high recharging rate trough high current
    No explosion risk: no gasses are produced during charge or discharge
    No maintenance: no acid fill, no leak risk, installation in any direction
    Stable Discharge Voltage: better engine performance, easy engine start
    Ecological advantage: no pollution, no lead, no acid, safe & normal disposal.

Downside:

How does a SHIDO LION battery reacts on cold temperatures?

The resistance of SHIDO LION batteries increases at low temperatures. But they will do their job until -10 degrees Celsius. But thanks to the special techniques and the management system built in the SHIDO LION batteries, they will perform much better than other Lithium batteries in cold conditions. There is also a simple trick you can use: if the battery performs poor under extreme cold conditions, use your headlight during 10 - 15 seconds before cranking. This will warm up the battery and afterwards she will perform better.

Price is higher than standard batteries.
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Re: Like 200i LX Not starting after sitting all winter
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2015, 11:56:54 AM »
Cool info Robo. I saw those on a scooter parts site. How much should I expect to pay for a regular battery like the stock battery?

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Re: Like 200i LX Not starting after sitting all winter
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2015, 08:11:10 PM »
Probably around 35,-/40,- for a brand MF. The Shido is about double price. Around 70,-/80,-
Bear in mind that a strong and reliable battery is a real good investment on these Fuel Injected Scooters without a kickstarter but with CVT.  ;)

Dead battery means "dead" scooter...
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Re: Like 200i LX Not starting after sitting all winter
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2015, 12:12:00 AM »
So today it took a jump from a jumper box and started right up. I rode it for a while and thought, well the battery has enough charge now. 20 min later and NOPE. Would not turn over. Probably going to end up getting the new battery when I get the oil changed next week. In the meantime, I will either be scooterless or have to use the jump start method and making sure I am within walking distance of a service station. Thanks again everyone. I missed being on here. I am back though!
Don't the like have a kickstart
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Re: Like 200i LX Not starting after sitting all winter
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2015, 10:38:03 AM »
Don't the like have a kickstart

The Like 50 and 125 does have the kickstart, the 200i does NOT.
On the 200i a kickstart alone woudn´t help to start the engine anyway. The ECU can only deliver (correct) information to the ignition system and the injection valve through a healthy and strong batterie in the first place. It´s all electronically steered and managed....

So a proper investment on a good quality MF or LiFePo4 battery might be wise.
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Re: Like 200i LX Not starting after sitting all winter
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2015, 12:33:18 AM »
I decided to let the shop replace it with a cheaper battery for now. Since I most likely won't be riding much in the winter, I'll just be hooking it up to a tender while it sits for extended periods of time. During the summer and early fall that won't be much. I will probably in all likeleyhood be on it just about every day.

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