Author Topic: Where to take out rpm signal on Agility 200i or similar scooter  (Read 1014 times)

MartyMcFly

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Hi all
I'm thinking about making an rpm counter for my Agility 200, but not sure where to get the tacho signal on such a motor (haven't looked at wiring yet, didn't receive manual yet).
Does anyone know if there's such a signal available from the motor?

For reference, I made one for my old Dax clone as you can see in my video here:


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Re: Where to take out rpm signal on Agility 200i or similar scooter
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2017, 01:38:46 PM »
The cheap tachometer I have for setting the idle speed uses a wire that wraps around the spark plug wire. It uses induction to get a reading.

No idea if that's actually helpful.
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Re: Where to take out rpm signal on Agility 200i or similar scooter
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2017, 02:35:07 PM »
GREAT SCOTT, Marty! You have done a genious thing with that tach! Hypo is right with the induction idea since the spark discharge is rf or radio frequency even if it is fairly low frequency. Making a pick-up coil should be fairly simple like a few turns around the plug wire, each end connected to your circuit.

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Re: Where to take out rpm signal on Agility 200i or similar scooter
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2017, 08:44:54 PM »
Thanks for the replies :)
The wire around the spark plug sounds like a good idea, I'll try it. I just hope the input is high enough impedance.
This rpm-thingy is really just an arduino board with some regulation circuitry and LEDs attached. I sold the Dax but still have the prototype - It might work as is with just the wire :)
Could be nice to have an idea about the revs the motor does.

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Re: Where to take out rpm signal on Agility 200i or similar scooter
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2017, 08:51:16 PM »
You may have to ground the end of the wire not connected to your tach to get the signal but try it ungrounded first.

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Re: Where to take out rpm signal on Agility 200i or similar scooter
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2017, 09:04:38 PM »
If you're willing to release plans of what you come up with, I'd be very interested in trying to duplicate it.

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Re: Where to take out rpm signal on Agility 200i or similar scooter
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2017, 01:03:44 AM »
I used a tiny-tach (amazon) with wire wrapped on the plug lead -- seen in photos here....
http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=10525.msg107937#msg107937

Two-sided 3-M auto-body foam taped the tach to the body....has been on there for 3 or 4 yrs with no issues. Works fine & records engine hours and most recent ride's high rpm reading.

I positioned it out of direct line of sight - I have found that there is NO time to be looking at the dash for any reason when urban riding! Out on the open road I might give it and the speedo a glance.

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