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Re: Downtown seat cushion/pad
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2019, 07:51:51 PM »
the fist pictures scooter wolf did on his trip to Ottawa ,
where do I find those?
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Re: Downtown seat cushion/pad
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2019, 02:44:54 PM »
a link to the pics would be appreciated
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2019, 05:52:56 PM »
a link to the pics would be appreciated

I am not ScooterWolf by try starting here:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3g8tgau4SljleLvzPGQ2cg
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Re: Downtown seat cushion/pad
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2019, 07:09:07 PM »
Another member wanted me to post my seat project, so here goes...

First, I want to say something: scooters are built for shorter people.  Period.  The manufacturers target consumer is much shorter than me.  I dont expect them to make scooters to fit me, I expect them to fit 90% of the market that they are in... and that leaves me to adapt myself.  No problem.  In fact, bicycles (of which I have ridden about 80k miles, mountain and road) have nicely adjustable seats.  I figure that if I can sit on a bicycle seat for 100 miles, I ought to be able to adapt to a scooter!. 

Anyway, in that vein, let's consider a modern high end bicycle seat.  It is oriented so that when you sit, your sit bones contact the seat.  The crotch area is cut out for comfort. It is tilted ever so slightly back.  I want to duplicate this... somewhat.. on my seat.  So what I did is:  I took closed cell foam and cut it in the shape of my air hawk knockoff pad.  Yes, a standard $10 walmart camping pad. A single pad cut about 7 layers.   I took these 7 layers and put them on the seat, forcing the back edge against the back. At that point, I applied duct tape to fix them in place.   When I make this permanent, I will use something like Gorilla glue to glue up the foam pieces into something permanent. Also of note is that most pads come rolled, and have a curvature that they want to follow.  USE THIS to help the cushion fold around the seat (legs). After creating the wedge, I wanted to create a seat pan to put my air hawk.  I modeled it somewhat after a bicycle seat.   One modification that I still want to make is a cut out for my tail bone.  I noted that on my last ride! Anyway, there is no right or wrong here.  This is EXTREMELY CHEAP. .... the knockoff air hawk is the most expensive thing at $27.  I used a razor blade to cut the foam.  I estimate that this increases leg length by about 3.5".

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Re: Downtown seat cushion/pad
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2019, 07:10:45 PM »
Before and after leg room:

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Re: Downtown seat cushion/pad
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2019, 07:14:51 PM »
Finally, this is a side view of seating. Notice the angle of my legs before and after.
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Re: Downtown seat cushion/pad
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2019, 07:37:08 PM »
Pretty dog-gone elegant! Can you still flat-foot it at a stop?
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Re: Downtown seat cushion/pad
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2019, 07:46:27 PM »
Yes. I can still flat foot it at a stop.
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Re: Downtown seat cushion/pad
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2019, 09:14:07 PM »
Perfect!  Thank you Thank you!  I will be working on this after the holidays as I need to modify the seat if I am going to make it thru the cannonball.  I do understand about hi end bicycle seats as when I rode that is how the seats were.  As a matter of fact, hi end shops had a device to sit on and would measure your seat bones.
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Re: Downtown seat cushion/pad
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2019, 02:16:53 AM »
Feel any less planted in the bike, sitting up there?
I did after building my LIKE200i seat. But I've gotten used to it. Being a touch over 6'3" means I still flat foot stops.


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Re: Downtown seat cushion/pad
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2019, 12:42:49 PM »
I feel firmly planted, moving my center of gravity by 2 and 1/2 inch doesn't seem to make much difference. But then again if I was going two-up, the center of gravity would be much higher and further back. Or, if a much smaller person or a much bigger person were piloting, their center of gravity would move more than two and a half inches from my center of gravity. So I don't think it makes much difference as long as you don't go too crazy
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Re: Downtown seat cushion/pad
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2019, 07:14:54 PM »
I bought an air cushion online similar, maybe exactly, to what you have.  Have an old foam mat used when we were tent camping years & years ago.  Cut that up and raised myself about 2 to 2.5 inches.  Just took test ride (44 deg and sunny, so good excuse).  Liked how my legs and seating position felt, can still flat foot and feels easier to raise my leg back onto running board.  Need to do some sculpturing of the back.  The other thing I noticed was that my riding pants were slippery on the air cushion.  I plan to put some of shelf non skid material on the bottom and probably try some on top also.

Here is a pic of the test setup I just rode on. 
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