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Tyre patching training
« on: May 02, 2021, 08:15:01 PM »
Dear colleagues,

since I had a worn out tire on my bench, I thought it a useful idea to fix a flat tire under workshop conditions. (pls see pics)
I know there are different systems available.

Two holes were punched by me into this carcasse.
Not to waste my REAL tyre-plugs I took a white and a black piece of 4mm packing cord instead.
But a little bit of glue on it for better and smoother gliding, and here we go...
The original seal thread is appr. 8cm long with a diameter of 4mm.
With that sealing kit comes a tube of rubber cement, which is to put on the seal cord wich consists of rubber strings, like inside a bungy-cord.

Pics show how to fix easily a punched tyre. It forms kind of mushroom inside the tyre.
So no way to lose it again.
Last step is to cut the ends outside at a lenght of about 5mm.
This wears off after some kilometers/miles of riding.
Happy and safe scootering, Ruffus

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Re: Tyre patching training
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2021, 01:24:17 AM »
good pictures, as usual! Smart to practice plugging a tire at home before you actually need to do one on the road, somewhere.
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Re: Tyre patching training
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2021, 04:11:14 PM »
From true safety standpoint---not a good idea to repair damaged motorcycle/scooter tires (tubeless)...  However little damage to tire, "boot", big patch from in- side way to go.   Plug for me used as get home repair.   I have used over 400 tires since 1955, repaired a few.  After repair re-balancing of tire/wheel assembly might be necessary.  Most shops cannot/do not balance scooter wheels.   I use "Ride On" and it works well for me.

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Re: Tyre patching training
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2021, 07:30:06 AM »
Have successfully used this method of repair on several occasions during my working days when I commuted by Motorcycle. By about the 4th time I was down to less than 20 mins from stopping to being back on the road!  Always carry a kit now.
Regards & ride safe,
Neil

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Re: Tyre patching training
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2021, 09:46:57 AM »
Thanks all,
yes, there will be always a certain percentage of risk in a repaired tyre, no matter what system used, no doubt.
A new tyre, mounted by a professional with some common sense, would be the best choice, if you can afford it.
 My recent experience with shops and so called "skilled mechanics" have a little bit shadowed my trust in them.
For me, I speak only for me, there is no more reliable "mechanic" available than I am. I know exactely what I when and how did. Because I'm fond of documenting most of steps I do in such cases.
No workshop, and I as a customer, could afford to fool around three hours (10 min coffee break) until a by me balanced wheel is turning at "zero", for example. Consists of balancing, air out, turning the tyre on the rim until the lightest point is found, rebalancing......
Happy and safe scootering, Ruffus

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Re: Tyre patching training
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2021, 11:00:46 AM »
Good post and pictures! Need to make a book of posts like these!
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Re: Tyre patching training
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2021, 03:12:06 PM »
Here's a 10 cent tire tip:

If it takes a little more effort to roll your scooter out of the garage some dark morning --- - NO, that's not the rear brake dragging, or really cold gear oil - affecting the rolling resistance!

You have a flat tire!

You're welcome.
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Re: Tyre patching training
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2021, 04:43:25 PM »
Fully understand thinking it's foolish, but I've ridden a couple thousand miles on a tire punctured by a screw that caused a very slow leak.  Had no problems and wouldn't hesitate to plug a flat.

Ride-On has made balancing a non-issue, along w protection against flats.  Big fan of it.
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Re: Tyre patching training
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2021, 05:37:41 AM »
Now I remember, I had a rear tyre puncture without noticing. Made it home, found a screw and the tyre pressure was only 5 psi.
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Re: Tyre patching training
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2021, 05:44:11 AM »
Fully understand thinking it's foolish, but I've ridden a couple thousand miles on a tire punctured by a screw that caused a very slow leak.  Had no problems and wouldn't hesitate to plug a flat.

Ride-On has made balancing a non-issue, along w protection against flats.  Big fan of it.

Yep, I’ve ridden hundreds of miles - at speed to make a ferry crossing - with a self plugged rear.  Not advisable, but they do work!
Regards & ride safe,
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Re: Tyre patching training
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2021, 04:57:36 AM »


Ride-On has made balancing a non-issue,

What is "Ride-On"?

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